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Funvax: Viral vaccine alters God gene, released into the Middle East successfully

Joey McGee

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Joey Lambardi purports to be a whistleblower who's been AWOL for several months. He purports to have once belonged to a special unit of the military called Combat Camera. June 1st a video was released to the internet and it's going viral. It purports to be

a lecture by an unidentified scientist given to DoD officials inside the Pentagon. It is dated 4-13-05 - about a year after the "God Gene" was first discovered. The scientist describes a plan to alter the "God Gene" in the Middle Easter Population in order to end the turmoil in that region.
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Joey claims to have no proof that they have actually used it because the information he has is outdated. He purports to have documents that he will be releasing in the future. There was a hype up to this video release and it seems to have lived up to it so maybe these will be real documents. He mentions he is too afraid of the heat on Wikileaks to go there. There is an interview with him at the main blog which will be where any future documents show up.

The most important part of the interview was this

I have the original proposal from 2005. A quarter of it has been blacked out, but its easy to understand the point of it. It was a classified research proposal. The most important thing it has in it is this flow chart detailing the bench marks for the project. It started with putting a non-religious version of VMAT2 gene into bacteria – a process that is apparently called cloning. It went from there to tests in cell culture and then safety tests in mice then monkeys and then Gitmo detainees. Once at the detainee level, the project is turned over to clinical lab who tests the detainees using brain scans to see if their response to reading scripture was similar to a non-religious person. If the vaccine tested well in effectiveness and safety, then they planned on a small field test in Iraq and if it proves effective in the field, a wide spread inoculation would take place. I also have a series of reports up until 2009. These reports are, you know, reports about the progress of FunVax in this one particular lab. It’s like a DoD update I guess. I got about three of these. The last one compares different strain of the virus they made. There was hundreds of different versions, some appeared to be flops and from what I can tell, others were superstars. And that was where my trail went dead. I have no idea what happened after that, I mean, I have an idea you know, but I no evidence to prove it.
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He thinks that the new stability, Iran protests, Arab Spring, etc were caused by the release of this viral vaccine. They have a 2 minute video about this.


You might ask, how could anyone really be against that? He explains...

What will stop the government from doing this to its own people? Religion is an important part of the human race, it benefits society in countless ways. Every society has religion, there’s not one that doesn’t. It builds community, it creates structure, it gives people hope, it creates a system of morals that are good to live by. Take away religion from people and who know what the long terms consequences are, you know? And just as important, like I said before, this is probably, most likely, the first of its kind, but now that it has been a success, what’s going to stop them from using this technology in the future?
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Interesting.
 
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I wouldn't give it any mind if I were you, stuff like that (along with the gay gene) can only exist in bad science fiction.
 
I'm sort of an anime geek, and every time someone mentions the "God gene" I can't help but think of the obscure horror/mystery/thriller anime Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (English: When the Cicadas Cry). In the population of the village of Hinamizawa, there is a disease that has a chance of causing affected individuals to think that the god Oyashiro is following them, and they also become paranoid. Then they start killing people.

Sort of like religious fundies, come to think of it.
 
I can't tell from the OP if the idea is to transmit genes through a viral or a bacterial vector. In either case, it would seem to require altering somatic cells to get some sort of rewiring of the brain?

Or is it a way to alter cells so progeny will be God-gene free in the next generation? But this doesn't fit your timeline.

I don't see how this is at all workable.

Just watched the video. The two brain scans are of the same brain. You can tell this because the artifacts are identical. That's a problem according to what they purport to show... I am calling this one bogus.
 
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AnnoyingPony said:
I'm sort of an anime geek, and every time someone mentions the "God gene" I can't help but think of the obscure horror/mystery/thriller anime Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (English: When the Cicadas Cry). In the population of the village of Hinamizawa, there is a disease that has a chance of causing affected individuals to think that the god Oyashiro is following them, and they also become paranoid. Then they start killing people.

Sort of like religious fundies, come to think of it.
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Yup.
 
So, arguments for incredulity only hrmmm? The "God gene" idea is both commonly misunderstood and not proven wrong, it's possible.

The video seems genuine, I can't seriously imagine someone faking that.

marplots said:
Just watched the video. The two brain scans are of the same brain. You can tell this because the artifacts are identical. That's a problem according to what they purport to show... I am calling this one bogus.
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They are indeed the same brain, it was for the purposes of a presentation to some spooks perhaps that's why it was implied they were two different people? The overall explanation of the phenomenon still holds up.


It's actually one of the more plausible CTs I have heard in long time.
 
Joey McGee said:
It's actually one of the more plausible CTs I have heard in long time.
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Only if you don't know anything about gene therapy and brain development.

First of all, this bacteria and/or virus would have to alter existing synaptic cells. It can't simply alter some, and let cellular reproduction spread the altered genome through the organism (that is, adenoviral methods won't work, since brain cells aren't a growing cell population). In effect, it means infecting most if not all of the brain with this virus/bacteria.

I'm not sure how a bacteria would transfer genetic material from itself to a brain cell, and there are some pretty severe problems with using lysogenic viral infections (not least of which is that the new genes are inserted randomly into the host cell's genome.

The most likely result of a virus targeting the genome of brain cells isn't the removal of the "god gene", but giving everyone infected brain cancer.

And, even if by some miracle this Secret Government Project could develop a gene therapy that is both more advanced and more successful than anything that any other research team working on gene therapy could even conceive of, the entire basis of the theory is wrong.

The "god gene" merely codes for the production of vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2). Its purpose is to act as a method for carrying certain types of neurotransmitters to brain synapses. If you were to inhibit VMAT2 (via this Magic Government Virus), all it would do is make the person exhibit symptoms similar to depression, anxiety, and other mood disorders.

There are lots of people in the world today with inhibited VMAT2 functions. They don't suddenly become atheists willing to rise up against theocrats. They generally are people being treated for depression, anxiety, Parkinson's disease, or drug addiction.
 
ANTPogo said:
Only if you don't know anything about gene therapy and brain development.
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I think the video is compelling on it's own. Either it's real or that's a hoax, there's no ambiguity on the subject mater discussed in it. If the science is bunk it's evidence that there are mad scientists at the Pentagon.

I appreciated your post, I didn't have anything to say. I don't think the effect of the VMAT2 gene on religiosity is unfounded but I'm not an expert and there are lots of experts still arguing about that now. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on the new paper.
 
Joey McGee said:
I think the video is compelling on it's own. Either it's real or that's a hoax, there's no ambiguity on the subject mater discussed in it. If the science is bunk it's evidence that there are mad scientists at the Pentagon.

I appreciated your post, I didn't have anything to say. I don't think the effect of the VMAT2 gene on religiosity is unfounded but I'm not an expert and there are lots of experts still arguing about that now. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on the new paper.
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linky please to the arguing experts - I would like to see an expert perspective on this.
 
Firstly it has not been published in a peer-reviewed paper so basically all you can do is argue about it, it's not settled. I said it like that because I came across a news story about a professor giving a talk mostly about Hamer's God Gene (against it) and there were some interesting points in the summary of the talk. Clearly to him, it's not settled despite his negative-sounding projection

I also found an interesting paper on a laboratory course a school did on the God gene from 2007 that might be fantastically interesting.

Experimenting with Spirituality: Analyzing The God Gene in a Nonmajors Laboratory Course
 
Or maybe the uprisings are a result of something else described as viral--media. I'd say it's quite likely online access and social sites have led many to realize they don't have to live under oppression. Seems like a simple and familiar story.
 
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