Fundy Islam vs White Supremacy

[Ranb]

That's what FGM is! Jesus, no wonder you equate throwing tomatoes to mass murder if your reading comprehension is that poor.

You're being evasive. I know what FGM is and I'm not equating tomatoes and murder. I was questioning if you made up a claim or actually had knowledge of it happening. Seeing how quick you are to evade and make up more crap, it's obvious you are making it up.

Oh, so as long as it's not done in the name of religion (and it is) it's OK, is it? I guess it pales into insignificance compared to those tomato throwers.

You're the only one here suggesting FGM is okay. Perhaps you should start your own thread to promote it.

If you're going to promote the idea that FGM is okay according to some religious views, then you're going to need something better than Wikipedia. I'd like to see the religious texts you claim are allowing it.

 

[baron]

You're being evasive. I know what FGM is and I'm not equating tomatoes and murder. I was questioning if you made up a claim or actually had knowledge of it happening.

Of course it ******* happens, what are you talking about?

You're the only one here suggesting FGM is okay. Perhaps you should start your own thread to promote it.

Are you desperate that nobody should take you seriously? If so I applaud your efforts.

If you're going to promote the idea that FGM is okay according to some religious views, then you're going to need something better than Wikipedia. I'd like to see the religious texts you claim are allowing it.

In that case I suggest an education. Come back when you're able to talk a modicum of sense on the topic, and watch out for those tomatoes.

 

[Ranb]

Of course it ******* happens, what are you talking about?

I don't believe you. Show me evidence to support the claim in post #15 that "....in the next street a 3 year old girl is forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion."

You're not an expert on religion just because you say so; or are the people here supposed to be stupid enough to fall for that too?.

 

[dudalb]

The point is both groups of people just want to deny basic human dignity to people they don't like. While some American members of this forum are all up in arms about muslim antics that largely happen overseas, it seems they're completely blind to the people who want to deny rights to others based on their skin color.

Hence my devout hope that they end up destroying each other.

 

[dudalb]

I don't believe you. Show me evidence to support the claim in post #15 that "....in the next street a 3 year old girl is forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion."

You're not an expert on religion just because you say so; or are the people here supposed to be stupid enough to fall for that too?.

The poster in question has certainly demonstrated his ignorance of Islam on many occasions.
No one hates Islamic Fundamantalism when it turns to violence more then I do; but to paint all Muslims as either extremists or enablers is sheer bigotry.
The poster in question is using a basic tactic of bigotry;picking out a few nutjobs and saying that is what "X" is really like.
And when it comes to religious fanaticism, Christians have no business pointing the finger at anybody considering their history.

 

[baron]

I don't believe you. Show me evidence to support the claim in post #15 that "....in the next street a 3 year old girl is forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion."

Good Christ, this is painful.

You're not an expert on religion just because you say so; or are the people here supposed to be stupid enough to fall for that too?.

Says the guy who starts a thread comparing the death penalty to punching someone who throws a tomato.

The poster in question has certainly demonstrated his ignorance of Islam on many occasions.

Oooh, hoist that handbag! Can't beat a bit of passive-aggressive snipery in place of debate.

No one hates Islamic Fundamantalism when it turns to violence more then I do

Priceless.

but to paint all Muslims as either extremists or enablers is sheer bigotry.

And no doubt you're going to quote one post where I do this. Just one, from 8000, in your own time.

No, I didn't think so.

The poster in question is using a basic tactic of bigotry;picking out a few nutjobs and saying that is what "X" is really like.

Oooh, 'the poster in question', goodness me!

And when it comes to religious fanaticism, Christians have no business pointing the finger at anybody considering their history.

That's more like it, back to your usual whataboutism in an effort to divert attention from Islamic barbarity. You left it a bit late this time, normally you're in at post number two.

 

[Ranb]

Good Christ, this is painful.

It should be painful for you, got caught making a claim you don't want to support.

Says the guy who starts a thread comparing the death penalty to punching someone who throws a tomato.

I was comparing people who support lynching in the USA and Pakistan. You're the one with the tomatoes in his face.

 

[baron]

It should be painful for you, got caught making a claim you don't want to support.

I'm sorry you can't distinguish between figurative and literal speech, what can I say?

I was comparing people who support lynching in the USA and Pakistan. You're the one with the tomatoes in his face.

Who supports lynching in the USA? And where is your link to the evidence for this support?

 

[Ranb]

I'm sorry you can't distinguish between figurative and literal speech, what can I say?

This just more backpedaling.

Who supports lynching in the USA? And where is your link to the evidence for this support?

You know who Emmett Till was? He was lynched. He was a victim of the white supremacy movement that still exists today and so eagerly supports politicians like Trump.

You keep trying to convince me that you're clueless, you should stop.

 

[baron]

This just more backpedaling.

The fact you don't believe FGM happens says it all. Don't embarrass yourself further, on this topic at least.

You know who Emmett Till was? He was lynched. He was a victim of the white supremacy movement that still exists today and so eagerly supports politicians like Trump.

Let me try again.

You said:

"I was comparing people who support lynching in the USA"

I asked:

"Who supports lynching in the USA?"

Will you now go ahead and answer that question and post your evidence instead of waffling about something that happened over 60 years ago.

When you've done that we can skip the bit about why you couldn't be bothered to include it in your OP, preferring to talk about tomatoes, and go straight to the question of how a handful of lunatics in the US (should they exist at all) is remotely comparable to an ideology and structure of government that oversees hundreds of millions of people in which citizens are routinely imprisoned for life, tortured and murdered for offending religion.

 

[theprestige]

Oh hey guys what's going on on in this thre-

- Never mind. I'm out.

 

[Ranb]

The fact you don't believe FGM happens says it all. Don't embarrass yourself further, on this topic at least.

I do believe it happens. Just because I don't buy your opinions on the matter doesn't mean I don't think it happens.

You think white supremacy isn't a thing anymore? Tell that to all of the tiki torch wielding idiots who marched for the neo-nazi cause.

 

[ProBonoShill]

The point is both groups of people just want to deny basic human dignity to people they don't like. While some American members of this forum are all up in arms about muslim antics that largely happen overseas, it seems they're completely blind to the people who want to deny rights to others based on their skin color.

9 11 happened overseas?

 

[baron]

I do believe it happens. Just because I don't buy your opinions on the matter doesn't mean I don't think it happens.

What opinions of mine about FGM do you not buy?

You think white supremacy isn't a thing anymore? Tell that to all of the tiki torch wielding idiots who marched for the neo-nazi cause.

When you started this thread, did you think, "I have a point to make and will illustrate it with some examples", or did you just patch together some random stories and start from there?

What is your point about white supremacy? Are these the tomato-thrower beaters? Do they go around lynching people, and is this lynching part of US law? Or are you comparing the opinions of people you don't like with the wholesale subjugation, torture and murder enacted by multiple governments and cultures in the Muslim world?

If you're concerned with the US government trampling on people's rights, how about starting here and protesting that you don't want to live in a country where the wilful mutilation of little girls' genitals by religious lunatics is perfectly legal.

And whilst you're at it, let's have some figures of the Muslim 'antics' that 'largely happen overseas' (for now we'll leave out why atrocities 'overseas' are worse than domestic ones in the first place). Would some of those 'antics' include 1% of the US population being responsible for around 99.5% of the US terrorism fatalities and injuries in the US in the past 20 years, or a full 50% since 9/11?

 

[Ranb]

What opinions of mine about FGM do you not buy?

I don't believe there is anything I can say about FGM that you will not mock even if I produce video of a child being butchered in the street. You made a claim then waffled about it before eventually backpedaling to your "figuratively" claim. How can anyone have a discussion on this topic with you when act this way? I'm done with it for now unless you come to your senses.

When you started this thread,.....

It was that white supremacy is bad, as it any racial supremacy crap. It was that simple but for some reason you got all hurt over it.

Some of the same people who want to take care of American problems before assisting the world are the same who would try to create more problems by calling themselves the master race in the USA.

Your suggestion that white supremacists "should they exist at all" has got to be, outside of flat earth claims, one of the more stupid claims I've read on this forum. I can debate about stupid things that are tangible, but debating your stupid ideas is something I'd rather not waste my time on right now.

 

[baron]

I don't believe there is anything I can say about FGM that you will not mock even if I produce video of a child being butchered in the street.

Mockery is the appropriate response to everything you have posted so far in this thread, especially when you respond to a reasonable question with yet more nonsense, so you could well be right.

You made a claim then waffled about it before eventually backpedaling to your "figuratively" claim. How can anyone have a discussion on this topic with you when act this way? I'm done with it for now unless you come to your senses.

Oop, flouncy flouncy.

It was that white supremacy is bad, as it any racial supremacy crap.

So there you go, the purpose of this thread is to state 'White supremacy is bad.' Very incisive, some real philosophical dilemma for true thinkers to get their mind around.

Some of the same people who want to take care of American problems before assisting the world are the same who would try to create more problems by calling themselves the master race in the USA.

Your suggestion that white supremacists "should they exist at all" has got to be, outside of flat earth claims, one of the more stupid claims I've read on this forum.

I see you're having trouble with your own arguments. I stated, very clearly, that the group I was referring to was the group defined by you, that being white supremacists who support lynching in the US.

I can debate about stupid things that are tangible, but debating your stupid ideas is something I'd rather not waste my time on right now.

Number one on my list would be that reading comprehension class.

The. Worst. Thread. Ever.

 

[jimbob]

The poster in question has certainly demonstrated his ignorance of Islam on many occasions.
No one hates Islamic Fundamantalism when it turns to violence more then I do; but to paint all Muslims as either extremists or enablers is sheer bigotry.
The poster in question is using a basic tactic of bigotry;picking out a few nutjobs and saying that is what "X" is really like.
And when it comes to religious fanaticism, Christians have no business pointing the finger at anybody considering their history.

Yes.

It's almost as though it's the fundamentalism part that is the problem.

I probably know equal numbers of devout Muslims and Christians, but the only fundamentalists I know are Christians and they hold some scary beliefs.

 

[RolandRat]

Yes.

It's almost as though it's the fundamentalism part that is the problem.

I probably know equal numbers of devout Muslims and Christians, but the only fundamentalists I know are Christians and they hold some scary beliefs.

You're missing the point, you have to think of the children! Specifically, the three year old child being held down in the next street and and and well..

 

[baron]

You're missing the point, you have to think of the children! Specifically, the three year old child being held down in the next street and and and well..

Good to hear you're open about your support for the practice. Most people would keep that sort of thing to themselves.

In 2016, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report compiled with data from 2010-2013. The CDC report estimated 513,000 girls and women in the United States were either victims of FGM or at risk of FGM, with ⅓ under age 18.[18] The marked increase in the number of girls and women at risk of FGM in the United States was attributed to an increase in the total number of immigrants from countries where FGM is most common...[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation_in_the_United_States

 

[RolandRat]

Good to hear you're open about your support for the practice. Most people would keep that sort of thing to themselves.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation_in_the_United_States

Your breathless hyperbole is always a source of amusement. Please don't stop.