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Fundy Islam vs White Supremacy

Ranb

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A court in Pakistan upheld the acquittal of a woman accused of blasphemy.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...bibi-blasphemy-acquittal-190129080432309.html
Pakistan's Supreme Court has upheld the acquittal of a Christian woman charged with blasphemy, standing by its earlier verdict that sparked days of protests, death threats and nationwide chaos.
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Blasphemy remains a massively inflammatory issue in Pakistan, where even unproven accusations of insulting Islam can prompt lynchings. Many cases see Muslims accusing Muslims, and rights activists say blasphemy charges are frequently used to settle personal scores.
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Lynchings. When a group of people decide that someone does not deserve to live because their behavior is so offensive, for some reason. People like Aasia Bibi or that "uppity" Emmett Till.

But progress of sorts is being made.
Judge Khosa said in court that Bibi's accusers were guilty of perjury, and if the case hadn't been so sensitive, they should have been jailed for life.
"The image of Islam we are showing to the world gives me much grief and sorrow," said Khosa.
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And in some respects, going down the slippery slope of undoing the progress that took decades to accomplish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBaaK15NDE

Ranb
 
If there was ever a "Let's Hope Neither Side Runs Out Of Bullets" situation, this is it.
 
The Big Dog said:
Are we going to get a clue what the point of this thread is supposed to be?

Or just spewing spam for morons from the young Turks?

**** even the leftist leftist think these dopes are dopes.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/young-turks-becoming-breitbart-left/
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Most of the main hosts like Cenk, Ana, and John Iadarola are pretty nuanced for the most part, even if they have to be slapped a couple times with Betteridge's law of headlines for some of their material, and I think their hearts are in the right place.

They are not Breitbart of the left.
 
The Big Dog said:
Are we going to get a clue what the point of this thread is supposed to be?
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It's rare that the clues to the point of my threads are not actually located in the thread title. This thread is not an exception.

Or just spewing spam for morons from the young Turks?
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I'm not a spammer and I really don't know much about these young Turk guys.
 
Ranb said:
It's rare that the clues to the point of my threads are not actually located in the thread title. This thread is not an exception.


I'm not a spammer and I really don't know much about these young Turk guys.
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K.
 
Venom said:
Most of the main hosts like Cenk, Ana, and John Iadarola are pretty nuanced for the most part, even if they have to be slapped a couple times with Betteridge's law of headlines for some of their material, and I think their hearts are in the right place.

They are not Breitbart of the left.
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lol
 
Ranb said:
It's rare that the clues to the point of my threads are not actually located in the thread title. This thread is not an exception.
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Maybe people are just trying to be generous. It's certainly less damning to speculate you messed up with the thread than you actually believe it's reasonable to compare a guy telling an audience to punch someone who throws a tomato to the industrial scale imprisonment, violence and murder by Muslims of those who dare to criticise their religion (or, in the case you cite, has the audacity to be a Christian whilst offering a drink of water to a Muslim woman). Because one of these options necessitates just messing up, the other mandates a loss of ******* mind.
 
Venom said:
Most of the main hosts like Cenk, Ana, and John Iadarola are pretty nuanced for the most part, even if they have to be slapped a couple times with Betteridge's law of headlines for some of their material, and I think their hearts are in the right place.

They are not Breitbart of the left.
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Nuanced! That is funny. Cenk Uygur is not only out of his tree, he's also one of the stupidest people ever to address an audience. He has the IQ of a melon.
 
baron said:
Maybe people are just trying to be generous. It's certainly less damning to speculate you messed up with the thread than you actually believe it's reasonable to compare a guy telling an audience to punch someone who throws a tomato to the industrial scale imprisonment, violence and murder by Muslims of those who dare to criticise their religion (or, in the case you cite, has the audacity to be a Christian whilst offering a drink of water to a Muslim woman). Because one of these options necessitates just messing up, the other mandates a loss of ******* mind.
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What about the social and political systems which were dedicated to industrial enslavement, violence and murder of people of the wrong color who had the audacity to be human? You seem to be ignoring that remnants of one of our most embarrassing segments of American society that still exists and are desperately hanging on to their zinc statues while the rest of rational society is trying to tear down their racist/terroristic idols.
 
Ranb said:
What about the social and political systems which were dedicated to industrial enslavement, violence and murder of people of the wrong color who had the audacity to be human? You seem to be ignoring that remnants of one of our most embarrassing segments of American society that still exists and are desperately hanging on to their zinc statues while the rest of rational society is trying to tear down their racist/terroristic idols.
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I didn't ignore anything. You are the one comparing the punching of tomato-throwers with the murder of people for their religious views. If you wanted to discuss the historic impact of slavery vs punishment for apostasy, assuming you could make a coherent connection (I can't), then why didn't you state that?
 
The point is both groups of people just want to deny basic human dignity to people they don't like. While some American members of this forum are all up in arms about muslim antics that largely happen overseas, it seems they're completely blind to the people who want to deny rights to others based on their skin color.
 
They aren't blind to it. They use it as an excuse.

"Why do you get so up in arms about the transsexual ban in the military when [Country X] is still stoning gays?"

As if "nominally better than theocratic despots" is a high enough bar.
 
Ranb said:
The point is both groups of people just want to deny basic human dignity to people they don't like. While some American members of this forum are all up in arms about muslim antics that largely happen overseas, it seems they're completely blind to the people who want to deny rights to others based on their skin color.
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Denying rights can range from refusing a refund for a rotten apple to genocide of an entire people. Failing to distinguish between the various severities only serves to weaken your point, assuming you have one.

Perhaps someone will be along with another example I can use.

Oh, that was quick...

Donal said:
They aren't blind to it. They use it as an excuse.

"Why do you get so up in arms about the transsexual ban in the military when [Country X] is still stoning gays?"

As if "nominally better than theocratic despots" is a high enough bar.
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Here we have a poster who believes that legislating against a transsexual joining the military is, in terms of human rights, only 'nominally better' than murdering a homosexual by caving his head in with a rock.

This is the kind of swivel-eyed thinking that sees women marching in protest against billboards that show cleavage when in the next street a 3 year old girl is forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion.
 
baron said:
You're asking where FGM happens in the West?
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No. I'm asking if you made up the claim that a 3 year old girl was forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion.

From your first link;
However, there are no acceptable reasons that justify FGM. It's a harmful practice that isn't required by any religion and there are no religious texts that say it should be done.
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And your 2nd link;
Prevalence rates vary according to geography and ethnic group, not religion, and sometimes differ along national lines within the same ethnicity
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It seems you don't believe your own claim and are trying to bull **** us.
 
Ranb said:
No. I'm asking if you made up the claim that a 3 year old girl was forcibly held down and her genitals mutilated in the name of religion.
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That's what FGM is! Jesus, no wonder you equate throwing tomatoes to mass murder if your reading comprehension is that poor.

Ranb said:
From your first link;


And your 2nd link;


It seems you don't believe your own claim and are trying to bull **** us.
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Oh, so as long as it's not done in the name of religion (and it is) it's OK, is it? I guess it pales into insignificance compared to those tomato throwers.

There is a widespread view among practitioners of female genital mutilation (FGM) that it is a religious requirement.
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