From Rapture Ready

Shades of David Jay Jordan.
I don't notice anything startling in the news.
To me, it blows the theory of the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012.
There should be certain things happening at the 3 1/2 year mark, according to the Bible, before the end.
So this Mayan calender theory can not be right.
 
I don't notice anything startling in the news.
To me, it blows the theory of the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012.
There should be certain things happening at the 3 1/2 year mark, according to the Bible, before the end.
So this Mayan calender theory can not be right.
How about the Bible is never right?
 
I don't notice anything startling in the news.
To me, it blows the theory of the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012.
There should be certain things happening at the 3 1/2 year mark, according to the Bible, before the end.
So this Mayan calender theory can not be right.
A commendably honest answer.
 
I don't notice anything startling in the news.
To me, it blows the theory of the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012.
There should be certain things happening at the 3 1/2 year mark, according to the Bible, before the end.
So this Mayan calender theory can not be right.

Okay, so does this mean you're admitting that the prediction of an Israeli airstrike on a nuclear reactor in Iran was wrong? If so, will you consider that all the other stuff might well be wrong as well? Particularly considering the many failed end-times predictions in the past, would you be willing to consider that the supposed predictions in Daniel and Revelation might better be interpreted symbolically?
 
I don't notice anything startling in the news.
To me, it blows the theory of the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012.
There should be certain things happening at the 3 1/2 year mark, according to the Bible, before the end.
So this Mayan calender theory can not be right.
I agree with FZ. This is an honest answerr and one that I respect.

Now,the funny thing about apocalyptic thinking is that it is almost certain to be one day true. Life on earth will end when the sun dies, which it one day will. The human race may die out before then if a metor hits, or a massive volcano occurs, or some other calamity. If we haven't mastered space colonization, the human race WILL die out.

But, this fact does not substantiate the doomsday theorists fantasies. They are just that, and little is to be gained in such self-flaggelating thinking.
 
Now,the funny thing about apocalyptic thinking is that it is almost certain to be one day true. . . .
But, this fact does not substantiate the doomsday theorists fantasies. They are just that, and little is to be gained in such self-flaggelating thinking.

Even the airstrike, had it happened, would be difficult to work into an apocalyptic scenario. Consider that in 1981 the Israelis launched a pre-emptive airstrike at the nuclear reactor in Osirak, Iraq, and in 2007 they launched a similar strike against a reactor being built at al-Kibar in Syria.

Of course, it would have been impressive if you could have predicted the date of such a strike. Tell me, Ethnikos, did any of your prediction come from Dr. Deagle? If so, are you prepared to shed him?
 
Okay, so does this mean you're admitting that the prediction of an Israeli airstrike on a nuclear reactor in Iran was wrong? If so, will you consider that all the other stuff might well be wrong as well? Particularly considering the many failed end-times predictions in the past, would you be willing to consider that the supposed predictions in Daniel and Revelation might better be interpreted symbolically?
A symbolic Armageddon and a symbolic Gog and Magog. We are in it. Like I said, Armageddon will not be televised.
What I was trying to do was make use of the attempt by some of forcing the hand of God. They have these smart calculations that have special significance for certain dates. The wise men make predictions and pick auspicious days for certain undertakings. I do not have to believe them, but if they do, they are likely to pull some outrageous stunts to make some esoteric point. If it was possible to read their minds, it may not come as such a shock when something does happen.
My prediction for the timing of a strike on the Iranian facilities was obviously wrong. It is apparently something hotly debated and concerned about, by the powers, as in the G8 summit a few days ago. Because it is being strongly questioned, that should give us some hope that it will not happen. I think cooler heads prevailed and called it off.
 
Even the airstrike, had it happened, would be difficult to work into an apocalyptic scenario. Consider that in 1981 the Israelis launched a pre-emptive airstrike at the nuclear reactor in Osirak, Iraq, and in 2007 they launched a similar strike against a reactor being built at al-Kibar in Syria.
What had me so concerned was this idea of using Geogia as a base for launching an attack.

Of course, it would have been impressive if you could have predicted the date of such a strike. Tell me, Ethnikos, did any of your prediction come from Dr. Deagle? If so, are you prepared to shed him?
He seemed to have backed off on his fear mongering over Georgia, as it became evident that Russia was not going to put up with such foolishness. Even the other guy, David Flynn, I was quoting seems to have regretted making predictions about what was going to happen on the eleventh. When you pay attention to such people, they are likely to leave you on your own, when it comes down to it.
Like I said, I am not going to jump on the 2012 doomsday bandwagon because it already failed the test, as far as I am concerned.
 
A symbolic Armageddon and a symbolic Gog and Magog. We are in it. Like I said, Armageddon will not be televised.
So, regardless of what actually happens (e.g., reality), you believe what you believe and facts won't change that.

Too bad.
 
There is a spiritual Battle for the souls of men.

Well there's a sentence that has no rational meaning whatsoever.

When your imaginary battle to win imaginary things is over...how will you know
if you've lost?

-z
 
There is a spiritual Battle for the souls of men.

Are you referring to the spiritual warfare references in Ephesians 6? If so, you may want to look atthe debate I'm having on that subject with Kurious Kathy on the thread about the Nightline show on "Does Satan Exist?"
 

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