From Rapture Ready

[TimCallahan]

Here's the story, Ethnikos: Once July 15th. has come and gone, without the jnuclear incident you've predicted, I'm done with you and your bull****. It's plainly a waste of time to attempt to engage you in rational discourse, becoause you make up your own reality.

 

[Fronzel]

Well, if someone on an Internet forum claims to have been an eyewitness then he must have been an eyewitness. No need to substantiate that evidence, is there?

It isn't just internet forums. I occasionally work in Angola. We take a normal school bus sized bus from the airport. One story from during the civil war, somebody fired a rocket at the bus.

If you talk to witnesses, roughly 400 people were on this 30 passenger bus at the time the rocket shot through the windows, turned around chase the bus before finally exploding in a way that would make Michael Bay jealous.

It was something they want to be part of. I'm sure that as time goes by, an inordinate chunk of New York's population will admit to having been at Ground Zero.

 

[Ethnikos]

Well, if someone on an Internet forum claims to have been an eyewitness then he must have been an eyewitness. No need to substantiate that evidence, is there?

It is not like that. Some no-planer will make some statement. Someone else will say, "I saw the plane and you are crazy." I will ask. "That is very interesting. Could you please describe what it was you saw, exactly." I never had someone say, "Oh it was definitely a United Airlines plane." It is not like they jump in and say, "I can tell you it was not a. . . " That has never happened.
I can safely say that I am probably the only person who you will run across who will say, "I saw it as plain as can be and was looking through the windows and I know exactly what it is." That is because I was watching it through a zoom lens of a high definition camera of someone prepositioned so that the plane flew right over it so I was looking at the bottom of it at one point.

Unless you can prove this I'm just going to have to go with the more likely explanation that you are just making this up.

No, I can not prove it. It was not exactly secure and could be seen by anyone who knew how to find it. Other than that, can't say.

Either this "friend" is lying or you are.

I can't explain everything because I do not want to get people in trouble. As soon as I started to, the FBI would know exactly who I am talking about.

 

[paximperium]

It is not like that. Some no-planer will make some statement. Someone else will say, "I saw the plane and you are crazy." I will ask. "That is very interesting. Could you please describe what it was you saw, exactly." I never had someone say, "Oh it was definitely a United Airlines plane." It is not like they jump in and say, "I can tell you it was not a. . . " That has never happened.

So what? You want people to make up things they saw like you do?

I can safely say that I am probably the only person who you will run across who will say, "I saw it as plain as can be and was looking through the windows and I know exactly what it is." That is because I was watching it through a zoom lens of a high definition camera of someone prepositioned so that the plane flew right over it so I was looking at the bottom of it at one point.

I don't believe you.

No, I can not prove it. It was not exactly secure and could be seen by anyone who knew how to find it. Other than that, can't say.

Post it. I believe you are lying.

I can't explain everything because I do not want to get people in trouble. As soon as I started to, the FBI would know exactly who I am talking about.

What a cop-out. I don't believe you.

 

[Ethnikos]

So what? You want people to make up things they saw like you do?

No. I am trying to point out that no one (besides me) ever goes onto a 911 forum in order to claim they saw the plane and it was not what it is claimed to be in the "official" story.
They go on to say that no-planers are full of crap. I will go ahead and ask them. Normally the person will just not post again. A few people have tried to answer me and they really cant say exactly what it was.

Post it. I believe you are lying.

it is not something in an archive that is available. There is a system of cables throughout Manhattan for running TV feeds through, that the city invested money into years ago. The idea is that you could set up a camera just about anywhere and could connect to a network. At the time of the second crash they were running a feed through the network in order for the people who were running the show could watch it live. Remember how Bush said he saw the crash on tv? That was a goof up, but he was telling the truth. He saw the first plane hit, live, from a monitor in his car.
If you were hooked into that feed while it was happening, you would have been able to see the same thing Bush did.
Anyway, don't believe me if that's what makes you feel comfortable. My point is that I have two really big pieces of evidence in my own mind that makes me know the main stream media are bought and sold to the New World Order and I keep my TV in the "OFF" mode.

Please stick to the topic. If you wish to discuss 9/11, we have an entire sub-forum for that.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[Ducky]

We're having a 9/11 argument with truthers in a thread in the religion section where the OP discusses Rapture Ready?

WTF planet is everyone on? Take it to the proper forum.

 

[Ethnikos]

We're having a 9/11 argument with truthers in a thread in the religion section where the OP discusses Rapture Ready?
WTF planet is everyone on? Take it to the proper forum.

The point I was making is that TV, you know the square god in your living room, is not infallible but is in fact deceptive. So don't expect Armageddon to be televised. If it is, it will be when it is too late to do anything.
Unfortunately, I actually listen to Coast to Coast on a regular radio radio to not hog up my resources from my computer. I have to hear Network news on the hour and even that is a little much, for me. Nothing but propaganda.
I asked my room mate if they had anything on TV about the Russians doing Military exercises around Georgia. He said, no. Not too surprising to me.
So, the Obama administration is playing a little game about how Israel is a sovereign country and we can not tell them not to bomb Iran, while we load their planes with bombs.

 

[Ducky]

The point I was making is that TV, you know the square god in your living room, is not infallible but is in fact deceptive. So don't expect Armageddon to be televised. If it is, it will be when it is too late to do anything.
Unfortunately, I actually listen to Coast to Coast on a regular radio radio to not hog up my resources from my computer. I have to hear Network news on the hour and even that is a little much, for me. Nothing but propaganda.
I asked my room mate if they had anything on TV about the Russians doing Military exercises around Georgia. He said, no. Not too surprising to me.
So, the Obama administration is playing a little game about how Israel is a sovereign country and we can not tell them not to bomb Iran, while we load their planes with bombs.

Hi, this is Earth. What planet did you say you're on?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Here's the story, Ethnikos: Once July 15th. has come and gone, without the jnuclear incident you've predicted, I'm done with you and your bull****.

He's predicting a nuclear explosion on the 15th? I assume he's called the relevant authorities and informed rescue workers, charities and whatnot in the area to be hit that they're going to have a major catastrophe on their hands and may want to prepare. Strange that I've heard nothing.

The point I was making is that TV, you know the square god in your living room, is not infallible but is in fact deceptive. So don't expect Armageddon to be televised. If it is, it will be when it is too late to do anything.

Your plate of Word Salad has been served.

Unfortunately, I actually listen to Coast to Coast

That explains a lot.
ETA: taking those eight words out of context gave them a new honest, but misleading meaning. They are meant to be taken in context with the next quote. Apologies.

on a regular radio radio to not hog up my resources from my computer. I have to hear Network news on the hour and even that is a little much, for me. Nothing but propaganda.

Good thing you have Coast to Coast, then.

I asked my room mate if they had anything on TV about the Russians doing Military exercises around Georgia. He said, no. Not too surprising to me.

Indeed, the Russian exercises near Georgia seem to have slipped all the major news networks by. "Russian military exercises near Georgia" only returned 1 700 000 hits.

So, the Obama administration is playing a little game about how Israel is a sovereign country and we can not tell them not to bomb Iran, while we load their planes with bombs.

The square god in my living room is infallible, therefore it doesn't mention Georgia, therefore Obama is pretending Israel is sovereign, therefore we can't tell them not to bomb Iran as they load their planes with bombs.

I think I need to lie down for a minute. I got strangely dizzy all of a sudden.

2 nukes went off over Japan. Why wasn't that the mark of the end days?

Oh, but it probably was, to a lot of people. Just like all the other catastrophes and major wars of the last 2000 years since Jesus promised He'd return and His believers entered their perpetual "Any Day Now..." mode.

No. I am trying to point out that no one (besides me) ever goes onto a 911 forum in order to claim they saw the plane and it was not what it is claimed to be in the "official" story.
They go on to say that no-planers are full of crap. I will go ahead and ask them. Normally the person will just not post again. A few people have tried to answer me and they really cant say exactly what it was.

So because arbitrarily chosen people are unsure what they saw, it had to be a military jet? Wow, instead of the God of the Gaps we now have the Remote Controlled Military Jet of the gaps.

 

[Ethnikos]

Indeed, the Russian exercises near Georgia seem to have slipped all the major news networks by. "Russian military exercises near Georgia" only returned 1 700 000 hits.

The US TV news, and the ABC and Fox radio news is controlled by the Pentagon. Every single word of it is propaganda. That or Michael Jackson, or whatever the latest distraction is.
I did not notice the google hits saying anything about Russia doing military maneuvers around Georgia, on US tv news.
Do a google search on, US gives Israel bunker buster bombs,
or, fears Israel will use bunker buster bombs on Iran.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

The US TV news, and the ABC and Fox radio news is controlled by the Pentagon.

Proof?

Every single word of it is propaganda. That or Michael Jackson, or whatever the latest distraction is.

Strange, I would have attributed something like that to simple marketing - giving your audience members what they want. Occam's razor at work.

I did not notice the google hits saying anything about Russia doing military maneuvers around Georgia, on US tv news.

Maybe not. What's your point?

Do a google search on, US gives Israel bunker buster bombs,
or, fears Israel will use bunker buster bombs on Iran.

They're close allies, of course the US is going to supply them with munitions.

 

[joobz]

ethnikos has been unable to keep to any claim consistently. Don't bother with her, as she is likely a troll.

 

[Foster Zygote]

It is not like that. Some no-planer will make some statement. Someone else will say, "I saw the plane and you are crazy." I will ask. "That is very interesting. Could you please describe what it was you saw, exactly." I never had someone say, "Oh it was definitely a United Airlines plane." It is not like they jump in and say, "I can tell you it was not a. . . " That has never happened.

So they simply don't remember (assuming they were even there and aren't lying in order to get attention). How exactly does this support your assertion that they were military planes?

I can safely say that I am probably the only person who you will run across who will say, "I saw it as plain as can be and was looking through the windows and I know exactly what it is." That is because I was watching it through a zoom lens of a high definition camera of someone prepositioned so that the plane flew right over it so I was looking at the bottom of it at one point.

Please clarify: You were watching the attacks live? How did you gain access to this camera feed? Seriously, I've known children who could lie better than this.

No, I can not prove it. It was not exactly secure and could be seen by anyone who knew how to find it. Other than that, can't say.

And how did you find it?

I can't explain everything because I do not want to get people in trouble. As soon as I started to, the FBI would know exactly who I am talking about.

If what you say is true it seems likely that the servants of the Jesuits or the Joos or the reptilian aliens or whomever is behind all this would have hauled you off already.

 

[shadron]

He was working at a nearby military installation and was called in to go to one of the hospitals where they were going to take victims to. Whatever other info would have been second hand, other than what he learned from the one patient he treated.

Why should we believe anything he says? The only thing that marginally quells my utter disgust at his accusations that the police officers who risked their lives entering a hostile situation trying to save children in their community were actually involved in murdering children themselves is the realization that Deagle is almost certainly mentally ill.

I'd like to point out, as a resident of Littleton, Colorado, that the closest military installation to Columbine is an Air National Guard base 20 miles away. The closest VA hospital, also about twenty miles away, was in the process of being deactivated. Between Columbine and the air base were perhaps 10 fully equipped hospitals and hundreds of trauma personnel, many of which converged upon and treated people on the scene. With only about 20 wounded, they were not swamped, and did not call, AFAIK, upon any military or federal assistance.

 

[TimCallahan]

O.K., one last stab at rational plausibility:

Ethnikos: If it's not on the news, maybe it's because it isn't happening. Also, this thing about Bush watching the first plane hit the trade tower on TV - where did you get that? Go out and rent Michael Moore's "Fehrenheit 9-11" and watch that twit Bush sitting in a school, reading some lame story about goats or something to small children while he gets the news of the attacks and sits there looking like a deer caught in the headlights. I guess his Jesuit reptile-alien overlords forgot to tell him about it.

Tick-tock, tic-tock: Another day passes. hadn't you better be warning people about where the nuke thing is goin to happen, as SafeKeeper suggested?

 

[Elizabeth I]

It's nutrients that are not patentable.

Bull. There is a thing called, I believe, a "functional patent," where, if you combine elements (mechanical devices, etc., not the elements in the periodic table, although I suppose they could qualify as well) in a new way to perform a specific function, you can get a patent for that design. So if your Dr. Deagle has discovered that a mixture of Alpo and horseradish cures diabetes, he can probably get a patent on that combination. It would definitely be worth a try.

Hell, you can even patent genes, for God's sake.

Alternatively, as others have suggested, why doesn't he just release the information and alleviate the suffering of millions, if not billions, of people? A Nobel Prize in medicine would almost certainly be in his future.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Tick-tock, tic-tock: Another day passes. hadn't you better be warning people about where the nuke thing is goin to happen, as SafeKeeper suggested?

We could always do it ourselves. Think the relevant nation's authorities would be interested in talking to Ethnikos if we made a 911 call and informed them that an acquaintance of ours had knowledge of an imminent nuclear strike somewhere on US soil ?

I can just picture Ethnikos in front of two FBI guys, stuttering that she was just making **** up to get attention on an online message board.

If I were Ethnikos, I'd make every effort I could to warn the people or government afflicted of what was going to happen. Heck, forget about talking to the government, which is probably In On It^TM, what about the people? I'd have, say, impersonated a police officer and made calls around the place telling people they had to be immediately evacuated or get to blast shelters in the face of an imminent nuclear strike.

 

[Fiona]

Bull. There is a thing called, I believe, a "functional patent," where, if you combine elements (mechanical devices, etc., not the elements in the periodic table, although I suppose they could qualify as well) in a new way to perform a specific function, you can get a patent for that design. So if your Dr. Deagle has discovered that a mixture of Alpo and horseradish cures diabetes, he can probably get a patent on that combination. It would definitely be worth a try.

Hell, you can even patent genes, for God's sake.

Alternatively, as others have suggested, why doesn't he just release the information and alleviate the suffering of millions, if not billions, of people? A Nobel Prize in medicine would almost certainly be in his future.

Is there any point, what with the bomb next week....

 

[Foster Zygote]

We have a week to learn to love the bomb.

I wonder if Deagle's survival kit contains the following: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Does the Russian phrase book contain the essentials "Don't shoot me!", "I'm a bolshevik!", and "Yes, please take my automobile, just give me back my daughter!"?