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If any sort of nuke was a sign of the end, it would have started over 7 1/2 years ago.
You have a very short memory. I was speaking to Aug 6th and 9th, 1945.


Why do you think 7.5 years ago is any more significant than things that happened 50 years ago?

What about the black plague of the 1300s? Was that less important than things thta happened 7.5 years ago?
 
The link you sent in your most recent post is just more stuff about Russia's continuing hostilities with Georgia. Again, I don't see anything here that leads to a Russian invasion of Israel.
The info about the planes is what I heard from Dr. Deagle, who claims he got it from classified sources, whatever that means. So that bit about the F-15's is not something you will find in the news.
Looking at these maps again, I have to think that the Roki Tunnel is mainly important in the winter because it is about 1500 feet lower than the natural passes. The tunnel is mainly important to the Georgia/Russia conflict over South Osettia because it crosses the border from Russia and comes out right above South Ossetia. If the pass was not usable it would be about five times the distance to get to South Ossetia from Russia.
I am not a fan of the idea that Russia will invade Israel. What I think is possible is that Israel might be worried about the possibility.

T'blisi to Tehran = 540 miles. T'blisi to Bushehr reactor = 924 miles. Israel to Bushehr reactor = 948 miles, plus having to fly over Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Kuat and the Persian Gulf.
 
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You have a very short memory. I was speaking to Aug 6th and 9th, 1945.
I realize that.
Why do you think 7.5 years ago is any more significant than things that happened 50 years ago?
I don't. They are the same sort of thing.
What about the black plague of the 1300s? Was that less important than things that happened 7.5 years ago?
Don't worry about the 7 1/2 years. I think I mentioned that for the benefit of anyone who might think we have to wait around for something else to happen. There are plenty of things that would indicate we are in for hard times.
I believe that before the end comes, we have to see a world power. The enemies of a big world Empire would be Iran and Russia. Putin is a smart person and understood, better than we apparently do, how the banking oligarchs were ripping off his country, so he threw them out. These are the same people ripping the US off. They want to have their hands in the pockets of every country in the world, to suck off the wealth of the world to keep for themselves.
The oligarchs will try to destabilize Putin and Ahmadinejad and then get their banks into every country, whether they like it or not. When that happens, that sets up a situation the fits the requirement for the end off the world. The world does not have to literally blow up, but just be taken over by a criminal organization of super-wealthy. Clay and Iron is what the Bible calls it. Meaning it is a conglomeration that does not fuse into one substance. That is the description of the world power that will rule only for "an Hour".
 
I realize that.
I don't think you do.

I don't. They are the same sort of thing.
then why mention atomic bombs like some mystical portent?

Don't worry about the 7 1/2 years.
I don't. it was YOUR statement. You are now telling me not to worry about YOUR statements...
I think I mentioned that for the benefit of anyone who might think we have to wait around for something else to happen. There are plenty of things that would indicate we are in for hard times.
And you are completely ignoring my point. there have ALWAYS been reasons to think "hard times ahead". the difference is some people actually care enough to fix the problems instead of hiding out waiting for the hand of god to magically save them.
 
The info about the planes is what I heard from Dr. Deagle, who claims he got it from classified sources, whatever that means. So that bit about the F-15's is not something you will find in the news.

Considering your source for this information in Dr. Wm. Deagle, it's a wonder you didn't also bring in connections between the Roki Tunnel and the Illuminati / New World Order / UFO's / the plot to use swine flu and avian flu to depopulate the world. Did it ever occur to you that the reason his "revelations" concerning the build-up of Russian troops near the Roki Tunnel haven't made it to the mainstream media is that he sees EVERYTHING as a conspiracy and is thus not considered a credible witness?
 
More on Dr. William Deagle:

He claims that in 1974 he turned down an offer from the CIA to help create the AIDS virus.

He claims to have contacts in the NSA and ATF, through which he knows about Project Omega, a super intelligence agency that oversees all intelligence agencies on the planet. It is staffed by humans and aliens.

He claimed in one lecture the the city of Indianapolis was created as a womb for the goddess Diana (In-DIANA-apolis), and that it is revered as such by local Freemasons. "A gate to the evil one has been created by the shedding of innocent blood."

He claims the Oklahoma City Bombing was carried out by the government, using miniature nuclear weapons.

He claims that at Columbine High School the authorities (local sheriffs and ATF agents) were participants in the massacre, keeping emergency workers at bay until Harris and Klebold had completed their assigned task.

He claims that in March 2001 he attended a private luncheon for FBI and CDC officials in Denver. There, he was told by an unnamed FBI official that there would be an attack on New York City within two years. Martial law and microchip identification would be instituted immediately afterwards. He claims the World Trade Center was brought down by mini-nukes planted inside the buildings (just like Oklahoma City).

Deagle has also said:

"All kings and rulers are subject to the Jesuit general, the Black Pope. Zionism is just an apostate arm of the Babylonian Talmudic Satanism subject to the Vatican. Spiritual dark lords of blood and sexual sacrifice are identical with the I.F.E.s...Identified Fiendish Entities. They exist in the astral planes and in the physical."

He says the U.S. is still under the control of the powers behind the British throne, and those powers are controlled by the Jesuits.

Also, Tesla didn't invent anything. His father, a monk, had access to the Vatican library and found documents about ancient technology. The Siberian explosion (Tunguska) was caused by Tesla's death ray.

He also says the term "Shock and Awe" comes from the name of an ancient Babylonian goddess. "She's a hyperdimensional entity that's real, not imaginary."

There's more, should anyone care to investigate. So tell me, Ethnikos, have I misstated anything? If not, do you relly accept this guy as an authority on anything?
 
Ethnikos is playing games rather than posting personal beliefs. Don't get too caught up in the content of these posts.
 
"All kings and rulers are subject to the Jesuit general, the Black Pope. Zionism is just an apostate arm of the Babylonian Talmudic Satanism subject to the Vatican. Spiritual dark lords of blood and sexual sacrifice are identical with the I.F.E.s...Identified Fiendish Entities. They exist in the astral planes and in the physical."

What does that mean? Is that like that movie Forty Nights where a guy gave up sex for forty days, or am I reading that entirely wrong?
 
More on Dr. William Deagle:
There's more, should anyone care to investigate. So tell me, Ethnikos, have I misstated anything? If not, do you relly accept this guy as an authority on anything?
I do not notice anything that jumps out as being out of place with what he normally talks about. But he does not normally say this stuff. The Nukes thing I have heard him mention before. Usually what he will say is something like, "There are things waiting just outside Earth's orbit we really need to worry about but I can not mention because people will just not believe it."
You can go to Genesis Radio and download podcasts and listen for enjoyable hours, to what he has to say. He was at a hospital in Colorado and treated the first person who was shot at Columbine. He treated old veterans, years ago, in Nova Scotia, who told him all about how they were sent to Leningrad to overthrow the Czar, with a lot of US and Canadian troops. He was the medical officer for the "star wars" space based weapon program so he knows everything about what is going on in space. He discovered the cure for diabetes and sells nutrients that will fix that and heart disease.
Overall, I find him very informative. He is also a good activist in the court system, doing things like law suites against forced vaccinations and making the government open a new investigation into 911.
One thing I found out about that made me want to puke, is one of the guys he has on likes to call himself Lord Sterling. He wrote to the Queen to tell her that when he dies, he wants his title passed down to either his son or daughter, irrespective of their gender. Wow, what a good guy. Blah. Idiot. I hope all the people on his show are not equally insane.
 
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Usually what he will say is something like, "There are things waiting just outside Earth's orbit we really need to worry about but I can not mention because people will just not believe it."
So, in short, Deagle is batpoop crazy.


He was the medical officer for the "star wars" space based weapon program so he knows everything about what is going on in space.
So, in short, Deagle is batpoop crazy.


He discovered the cure for diabetes and sells nutrients that will fix that and heart disease.
So, in short, Deagle is batpoop crazy.


Overall, I find him very informative. He is also a good activist in the court system, doing things like law suites against forced vaccinations and making the government open a new investigation into 911.
So, in short, Deagle is batpoop crazy.

I think Foster covered the salient point.
 
If any sort of nuke was a sign of the end, it would have started over 7 1/2 years ago.
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Just having a nuke is not the sign that the time of trouble has started, since I think it has started already. The reason I brought up nukes being involved in the war against Iran is because it might take that to wake people up to the fact something is wrong with me.

You left out the two most important words.I fixed it for you.
 
He was at a hospital in Colorado and treated the first person who was shot at Columbine.

He treated old veterans, years ago, in Nova Scotia, who told him all about how they were sent to Leningrad to overthrow the Czar, with a lot of US and Canadian troops.

He was the medical officer for the "star wars" space based weapon program so he knows everything about what is going on in space. He discovered the cure for diabetes and sells nutrients that will fix that and heart disease.

Okay, let's take these three things I've quoted from your post and examine them. One thing that Deagle's critics have maintained is that he makes grandiose, unsubstantiated claims. So is there any corroborating evidence for his medical and other claims?

First of all, have you verified that he really was one of the first respoders at Columbine? And why would the law enforcement officers want to help two killers continue to massacre teenagers at a local high school?

As to American and Canadian troops being sent to Russia to overthrow the czar, this sounds like a badly garbled version of a historical incident in which American troops thinking tey were going to the Western Front found themselves being sent to Russia to fight the Communists. AFTER the czar was overthrown, Karinsky (sp.?) and his Menshiveks set up a provisional democratic government, but made the mistake of trying to keep Russia involved in World War I. He was overthrown by Lenin and Trotsky, leading the Bolshiveks in what is called the October Revolution. The Bolshiveks shrewdly pulled out of the war. A civil war ensued between the Bolshiveks and a confederation of Menshiveks and Royalists. The American troops were sent to Russia to help the latter, so that Russia could be brought back into the war to recreate an Eastern Front. Of course this effort came to nothing, since those opposing the Bolshiveks were disorganized and led by incompetants.

Dr. Deagle has discovered a cure for diabetes? Is he being considered for the Nobel Prize in Medicine? This sounds like the type of modern mythology commonly circulating to the effect that someone really has discovered a cure for cancer, AIDS etc., but that the kowledge is being deliberately suppressed by the medical establishment. When, in answer to these accusations, people point out that there's no evdence of them being true, defenders often claim that as a reason to believe their claims, since they see the lack of evidence as evidence of a cover-up. Be assured that if Deagle really had discovered a cure for diabetes, drug companies across the globe would be courting him for rights to manufacture whatever drug or drugs he had invented.

Face it, Ethnikos: The evidence points to Deagle being a pathological liar and probably delusional. So why would you choose to believe him and, implicitly, choose to believe that all the other news sources in the world were lying?

Oh, by the way, today is July 6th. If we don't have an important incident involving the detonation of nucler weapons in nine days, are you prepared to retract your claims on this thread?
 
One thing that Deagle's critics have maintained is that he makes grandiose, unsubstantiated claims. So is there any corroborating evidence for his medical and other claims?
He does not spend his time substantiating every detail, over and over.
First of all, have you verified that he really was one of the first respoders at Columbine? And why would the law enforcement officers want to help two killers continue to massacre teenagers at a local high school?
He was working at a nearby military installation and was called in to go to one of the hospitals where they were going to take victims to. Whatever other info would have been second hand, other than what he learned from the one patient he treated.
As to American and Canadian troops being sent to Russia to overthrow the czar, this sounds like a badly garbled version of a historical incident in which American troops thinking tey were going to the Western Front found themselves being sent to Russia to fight the Communists.
That's a good question, and I doubt he is going to clear it up.
Dr. Deagle has discovered a cure for diabetes? . . .drug companies across the globe would be courting him for rights to manufacture whatever drug or drugs he had invented.
It's nutrients that are not patentable.
Face it, Ethnikos: The evidence points to Deagle being a pathological liar and probably delusional. So why would you choose to believe him and, implicitly, choose to believe that all the other news sources in the world were lying?
911 would be a good example of lying on the part of the networks. Why would I believe them?
Oh, by the way, today is July 6th. If we don't have an important incident involving the detonation of nucler weapons in nine days, are you prepared to retract your claims on this thread?
Whenever he gets back to Washington. I think he is going to China after he goes to Russia. There is a G-8 summit in Bejing. It might not be until after that. Dr. Deagal also sells stuff for surviving nuclear fallout.
 
911 would be a good example of lying on the part of the networks. Why would I believe them?

And what lies did they tell about 9/11? That bastards from Al Qeada crashed two jet lineres full of fuel into the twin towers? I saw that on TV. Gee, I guess they faked all that. It really looked real. I guess they must have also fed the entire population of New York City some kind of mass hallucination. to make them think the same thing.

As to the nutrients that cure diabetes, what are they? Or is Dr,=. Deagle keeping this a secret? If so, why?

Tick-tock, tick-tock, Ethnikos. It's getting closer to July 15th. Tomorrow's the 7th. your number is up in eight days.
 
He does not spend his time substantiating every detail, over and over.
It would be a huge step forward if he substantiated anything just once.

He was working at a nearby military installation and was called in to go to one of the hospitals where they were going to take victims to. Whatever other info would have been second hand, other than what he learned from the one patient he treated.
Why should we believe anything he says? The only thing that marginally quells my utter disgust at his accusations that the police officers who risked their lives entering a hostile situation trying to save children in their community were actually involved in murdering children themselves is the realization that Deagle is almost certainly mentally ill.

That's a good question, and I doubt he is going to clear it up.
Now that I can agree with.

It's nutrients that are not patentable.
Then why doesn't he publish these nutrients as a philanthropic gesture?

911 would be a good example of lying on the part of the networks. Why would I believe them?
Yeah, why believe a bunch of facts when you can believe a guy who thinks that malevolent aliens are controlling the world?

Whenever he gets back to Washington. I think he is going to China after he goes to Russia. There is a G-8 summit in Bejing. It might not be until after that. Dr. Deagal also sells stuff for surviving nuclear fallout.
Do you own any of his fallout survival gear?
 
And what lies did they tell about 9/11? That bastards from Al Qeada crashed two jet lineres full of fuel into the twin towers? I saw that on TV. Gee, I guess they faked all that. It really looked real. I guess they must have also fed the entire population of New York City some kind of mass hallucination. to make them think the same thing.

As to the nutrients that cure diabetes, what are they? Or is Dr,=. Deagle keeping this a secret? If so, why?
You can hear him explain it on today's show.http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/odPlayer.php?program=nutrimedical Where he talks about treating diabetes.
I am a frequent poster on a 911 forum and have had conversations with people who were eyewitnesses as in looking up and seeing the plane hit the second tower. No one has been able to tell me they could tell for sure it was a united airlines plane. I watched it on a secret feed connected to a camera at the Coast Guard station that the intelligence people were using to monitor how their operation was going. It was not an ordinary commercial airliner. It was a solid grey military plane. I saw it in extreme closeup.
Plus one of my friends knew Mohamed Atta and knows he was in Venice right before the plane he was supposed to be flying hit.
 
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I am a frequent poster on a 911 forum and have had conversations with people who were eyewitnesses as in looking up and seeing the plane hit the second tower.
Well, if someone on an Internet forum claims to have been an eyewitness then he must have been an eyewitness. No need to substantiate that evidence, is there?

No one has been able to tell me they could tell for sure it was a united airlines plane.
Did any of them say for sure that it wasn't?

I watched it on a secret feed connected to a camera at the Coast Guard station that the intelligence people were using to monitor how their operation was going. It was not an ordinary commercial airliner. It was a solid grey military plane. I saw it in extreme closeup.
Unless you can prove this I'm just going to have to go with the more likely explanation that you are just making this up.

Plus one of my friends knew Mohamed Atta and knows he was in Venice right before the plane he was supposed to be flying hit.
Either this "friend" is lying or you are.
 

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