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Needless to say, this is untrue. There are no laws against wearing visible symbols of any faith in England or anywhere else in the UK. If you have evidence to the contrary, please post it.

Okay so what part of the UK do you live in and you say you see people wearing cross neckalces and hopefully t-shirts? It's known that the Muslims have succeeded in converting many old churches to mosques already and they won't stop until they try to take over the whole USA which unfortunately I myself see Obama helping them. Why can't people stop this? The fairness act is not fair at all as it serves the Muslim nations to try to shut up all Christians which just isn't fair. We have just as much right to stand up for our faith as anyone does.

P.S. I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out. Face it people we need God to fix our world as he has promised to make everything new in a perfect new world with no more sin. I put my hope in him!
 
Okay so what part of the UK do you live in and you say you see people wearing cross neckalces and hopefully t-shirts?
KK, are you really suggesting christians have to wear cheesy, bad christian T-shirts to be good christians? Why do I think Jesus wouldn't approve of such behavior?

It's known that the Muslims have succeeded in converting many old churches to mosques already and they won't stop until they try to take over the whole USA which unfortunately I myself see Obama helping them.
I thought we were talking about Britian? Oh well, I guess you missed Obama's Speech in Egypt where he stated several times that he was a christian.... Or does he need to be wearing a christian T-shirt for it to be real?



P.S. I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out.
So you are wishing upon the majority of people in this world horrible torture and death and torment, while you get wisked away to happyville?
WOW....
 
You obviously are not up to date on our nuclear policy. What kept us safe was what is called Launch on Warning. Our new policy is to launch after a first strike has ended. We have a nice little deal with the Russians that we keep half of our submarines in port at all times so they can take them all out with a first strike that we plan to absorb. Their words, not mine.
That is true. The only problem is there is a new religion which is really an old religion which is told in Daniel,"they worship a god of fortresses, which their fathers did not recognize." That was who he describes as bringing in the end of the world.
I was brought up on the idea that the world was going to end in our life time and I have always hated it. I wish it was not true but I see all the things happening in our face, that was foretold.
I do appreciate the world. I have kayaks and go out and enjoy things that are natural and beautiful. I used to spend a lot of time hiking in the mountains and being in nature. I love people and do not want bad things to happen to them. That is why I would take the trouble of warning them, so they can escape the calamities that are coming.

Like Jeremiah?
 
So if I go to England on vacation I am not allowed to where my Christian t-shirts (one says rapture ready" or christian jewelry designs? Are you allowed to go to church or carry a Bible??


Uh, kurious_kathy, he's lying. Get it? Lying. You know about lying Christians. You do plenty of it yourself.

I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out. Face it people we need God to fix our world as he has promised to make everything new in a perfect new world with no more sin. I put my hope in him!


Yes, you are a nasty wicked sinner, kathy. I'm guessing you have dirty sex, steal from people, make babies cry, and of course you're a proven liar. You should feel guilty. You should feel like your world is crummy and you're a worthless sinner, a bad bad person. But please understand that your problems are your problems. It's pretty crappy of you to try to pass off the responsibility for that stuff onto everyone else.

We don't want to share the burden of your sinning. We didn't do it. And most of us don't feel like the world is such a crappy place that it needs the intervention of some invisible monster to fix it. What we do see as problems, most of us are willing to actively work to fix them, in contrast to your total lack of willingness to actually do anything besides pray and cower in fear. You and your tiny little fear based, guilt laden, judgemental life. Pitiful.
 
This might take a while. I have 120 hrs. worth of pod-casts to listen to.
Here is one thing to start. The guys at the Alex Jones show may have exaggerated slightly about what is not allowed. At work, they can stop you from wearing a cross, in the U.K.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-will-force-churches-to-employ-gay-staff.html

Pod casts. You're basing your conclusions on pod casts.

Yeah, real critical thinking at work here, folks. :rolleyes:

If the extent of your knowledge of the world as it is is summarized in pod casts, which are not fact checked, which can be put out by ANYONE without any challenge to the "facts" presented, then I'd say you don't have much to offer.

Peace, out.
 
So if I go to England on vacation I am not allowed to where my Christian t-shirts (one says rapture ready" or christian jewelry designs? Are you allowed to go to church or carry a Bible??
Here's a hint, Kathy; Ethnikos is wrong. People here are free to wear [note correct spelling] crosses, pentacles, Sikh bangles, and even daft T-shirts. Of course people are allowed to go to churches or other places of worship, and carry books should they choose. You don't really think a western democratic nation would ban such things, do you?

This might take a while. I have 120 hrs. worth of pod-casts to listen to.
Here is one thing to start. The guys at the Alex Jones show may have exaggerated slightly about what is not allowed. At work, they can stop you from wearing a cross, in the U.K.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-will-force-churches-to-employ-gay-staff.html
The guys at the Alex Jones show are WRONG. I thought you might have been talking about the BA case. Here's what BA had to say:
BA said in a statement: "British Airways has 34,000 uniformed staff, all of whom know they must abide by our uniform policy.

"The policy does not ban staff from wearing a cross. It lays down that personal items of jewellery, including crosses may be worn - but underneath the uniform. Other airlines have the same policy.

"The policy recognises that it is not practical for some religious symbols - such as turbans and hijabs - to be worn underneath the uniform. This is purely a question of practicality. There is no discrimination between faiths.

"In Nadia Eweida's case, she is not suspended and we want her to come back to work. We have explained to her the need to comply with the uniform policy like all her colleagues whatever their faith."

BA said Ms Eweida had been offered a non-uniformed post were she would be able to openly wear her cross but had refused to take it.
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6165368.stm She can wear her cross, but like every other uniformed staff member, she must comply with the uniform policy to which she agreed when she commenced employment.

Okay so what part of the UK do you live in and you say you see people wearing cross neckalces and hopefully t-shirts?
I live in Derbyshire. I suppose some people wear cross necklaces, I don't really notice. I've never seen anyone wear a Rapture Ready T-shirt, they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The rapture stuff is something quite peculiar to bits of America as far as I can see. The UK isn't big on outward signs of faith, nor are we particularly religious as a country.
It's known that the Muslims have succeeded in converting many old churches to mosques already and they won't stop until they try to take over the whole USA which unfortunately I myself see Obama helping them. Why can't people stop this? The fairness act is not fair at all as it serves the Muslim nations to try to shut up all Christians which just isn't fair. We have just as much right to stand up for our faith as anyone does.
If nobody goes to a church and it gets closed, why shouldn't the building be utilised as a place where other people want to go? Churches being converted to mosques can only happen with the consent of the local planning authority, and locals have the right to express their views on the proposal.

I don't know what you mean by 'the fairness act'; I googled but couldn't find anything that might be relevant to your complaint there.

Nobody's stopping you stand up for your delusions, and in return I don't see you have any right to stop anyone else standing up for their delusions. All you are doing is arguing over different versions of the same fairy tale, after all.
P.S. I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out. Face it people we need God to fix our world as he has promised to make everything new in a perfect new world with no more sin. I put my hope in him!
Maybe your belief helps you survive a world which you seem to see as hate-filled and scary. I hope one day you see it for the fictional nonsense it is, and find yourself in the real world.
 
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Uh, kurious_kathy, he's lying. Get it? Lying. You know about lying Christians. You do plenty of it yourself.




Yes, you are a nasty wicked sinner, kathy. I'm guessing you have dirty sex, steal from people, make babies cry, and of course you're a proven liar. You should feel guilty. You should feel like your world is crummy and you're a worthless sinner, a bad bad person. But please understand that your problems are your problems. It's pretty crappy of you to try to pass off the responsibility for that stuff onto everyone else.

We don't want to share the burden of your sinning. We didn't do it. And most of us don't feel like the world is such a crappy place that it needs the intervention of some invisible monster to fix it. What we do see as problems, most of us are willing to actively work to fix them, in contrast to your total lack of willingness to actually do anything besides pray and cower in fear. You and your tiny little fear based, guilt laden, judgemental life. Pitiful.

Nominated.
 
Okay so what part of the UK do you live in and you say you see people wearing cross neckalces and hopefully t-shirts? It's known that the Muslims have succeeded in converting many old churches to mosques already and they won't stop until they try to take over the whole USA which unfortunately I myself see Obama helping them. Why can't people stop this? The fairness act is not fair at all as it serves the Muslim nations to try to shut up all Christians which just isn't fair. We have just as much right to stand up for our faith as anyone does.

P.S. I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out. Face it people we need God to fix our world as he has promised to make everything new in a perfect new world with no more sin. I put my hope in him!

Yeah. Good luck with that.

Most of us recognize that god isn't going to help us out of this mess. We need to accept responsibility for ourselves and take action on our own.
 
Okay so what part of the UK do you live in and you say you see people wearing cross neckalces and hopefully t-shirts?
Agatha never said she had seen people, only that there is no law against it. Necklaces are generally quite discreet items of jewellery and probably wouldn't be even noticed at a casual glance. Of course, in some religions, expression of belief is more obvious (turban, hijab). A t-shirt emblazoned with "I [heart] Jesus" might get you a few odd looks, but it's not really traditional Christian attire. IMO, the schism that appears to exist between Christianity and secularity in the US doesn't exist here to anywhere near the same extent.

It's known that the Muslims have succeeded in converting many old churches to mosques already
What has this sentence to do with the previous one? And if the premises are not being used, what's the big deal? Sometimes it's a mosque, or maybe it's an apartment building, or perhaps a supermarket.

and they won't stop until they try to take over the whole USA which unfortunately I myself see Obama helping them.
That comes across as rather paranoid.
 
Until you can provide a logical answer to that question, no one here is going to be interested in your conspiracy mongering.
If that was my goal, I should have posted on the conspiracy thread, or wherever that sort of thing goes. I was really interested in explaining why a rapture would be necessary. The thing is, it does not reach full completion. God stops it before everyone is dead. That is the Point.
What I plan to do with info I get on the radio is to not take vaccinations. You can if you want, and while you are at it, drink some fluoride water and aspartame and eat some GMO food and take Prozac and give your kids Ritalin. Watch TV a few hours a day and hold a cell phone to your head most of the day. Why not? The government loves you. They would never let you drink high fructose corn syrup cut with mercury and preserved with sodium benzoate that turns into benzine and gives you cancer.
 
That comes across as rather paranoid.
Well, She has reason to be. The US led mark of the beast program has been highly successful. All that was needed was to convince fundies that a clearly overlayed 3 sixes placed on the side is actually a "Jesus fish".
 
drink some fluoride water and aspartame and eat some GMO food and take Prozac and give your kids Ritalin. Watch TV a few hours a day and hold a cell phone to your head most of the day. Why not? The government loves you. They would never let you drink high fructose corn syrup cut with mercury and preserved with sodium benzoate that turns into benzine and gives you cancer.

*snicker*

I think I am going to have to agree with Moochie: some legs are getting pulled.
 
Pretty sure that employers in general in most countries can dictate a dresscode for their employees.
Indeed, Geezer, as I showed above. But Ethnikos doesn't seem to want to let facts stand in the way of his/her paranoid ravings.
 
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Like Jeremiah?

Dr. Deagle is the prophet.
I do spend a lot of time on forums writing on Cristian subjects, though.
I normally do not get into the political aspects of it other than to say the worst thing is for the church to be given political power.
That is the Beast and all that.
I normally never get into the actual events that lead up to the end, at least the part that the evil powers do, other than to point out that they are evil.
The important thing is to understand what the gospel is, and that the Beast and Babylon is not going to give it to you. That is why you have to go back to people like Martin Luther and the idea of the priesthood of all believers.
 
kk said:
I still believe in the rapture of Gods church and hope Jesus returns soon to fix this mess out. Face it people we need God to fix our world as he has promised to make everything new in a perfect new world with no more sin. I put my hope in him!
Why would you put your hope in god making the world perfect? Hasn't he had a few thousand years to make it perfect? He certainly didn't make it perfect at the start, what with putting that tree right where he knew Adam and Eve would want to eat from it. Their perfect eden lasted all of what - a couple of days?

Then things got really nasty so he got rid of all the imperfect people with a flood, and somehow things still didn't work out that well. So he turned himself into his own son by date-raping some virgin girl, just so he could kinda sorta make things perfect, just not on the first coming, but on his second coming, which is the one his believers have been waiting for about 2000 years now.

If he really wanted to make things perfect, he should have done so by now, or he's a piss-poor excuse of an omnipotent being and should be fired for gross incompetence. Unless......he's just a figment of people's imaginations, like every other god throughout all of history.

Impotent.
 
and while you are at it, drink some fluoride water and aspartame and eat some GMO food and take Prozac and give your kids Ritalin. Watch TV a few hours a day and hold a cell phone to your head most of the day. Why not? The government loves you. They would never let you drink high fructose corn syrup cut with mercury and preserved with sodium benzoate that turns into benzine and gives you cancer.
All so-called god made things.

Paul

:) :) :)

As Ethnikos sits in front of his computer screen, well thats OK, his is doing so-called god's work.
 

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