From Rapture Ready

Farencue, you have it right. Whatever the reason was that your prayers weren't answered with help from god, it was your fault. It's never god's fault, of course.

After reading your story, some (*cough, cough, Kathy*) people might say that your prayers were answered, in that you grew stronger and overcame your horrible past, and only with god's mysterious "help" could that have happened to make you the wonderful person you are today.

In other words: you're gonna get told some feel-good bull**** that only makes the person saying it feel good.
 
hopping frogs Slingblade, I never thought of that! God works in mysterious ways....
 
Kathy, one needs to open ones mind to be ever ready to accept truth (reality).

Charlie Campbell erroneously spills:

1. What evidence do you have that there is a God?”
There are only three options for the existence of the universe. One, that it has always been. Two, that it came into being by itself. Three, that it was created.
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This is a false trichotomy. ;)
A. We don't know

2.“What evidence do you have that the Bible is actually true?”
If I had to narrow it down to a few evidences, I would probably say: fulfilled prophecies, archaeological discoveries, and the Bible’s amazing unity. The Bible, unlike any other religious book, has demonstrated itself to be the Word of God through its ability to rightly predict the future.
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"Evidences"? What evidence? Where has it predicted the future, ever?

Uggg...I can't go on...just please answer the above question KKathy.
 
I'd like to think that at least one RR member is reading this thread & becomes inspired to make the same choices that Slingblade & Farencue made.

There's a lot of similar stories to theirs over at RR----lots of unhappiness & depression--people struggling with life.

I can understand the appeal of fundamentalist xtianity to these people. Life is tough sometimes--problems mount up and you begin to feel overwhelmed & helpless as things just spiral down out of your control.

Along comes a promise that a loving being will fix all your problems...OR...real soon will be beaming you up to a magical happy place.

All that's required is you kiss some ass,vote republican, and none of that fagola stuff.

Change isn't easy. It takes courage to give up the familiar--even when what's "familiar" is very unpleasant.

I applaud both of you for realizing that jesus wasn't going to turn your abusive spouse/father into a swell guy. He wasn't going give you a winning lottery ticket and wasn't going to whisk you off to OZ...

You had to do those things yourself-and maybe with some help from fellow human beings.

Hats off to both of you..............
 
Farencue said:
Can anyone tell me why religious people cant just live their beliefs, mind their own business, live and let live etc? Why do they have to spread the word?
Why is it that most religions are not evolved enough to have courage in their own convictions and let the rest of us get on with reality?
Hmm, courage - the opposite of fear.
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I find it funny how people, supposedly secure in their faith, get threatened by questions or other influences (Harry Potter... the new movie's out in July - can't wait for the BS to start). Is their faith so weak or their God so weak that they can't "weather the storm" so to speak.

If I can take anything away from my lurking activities here on the board, it's that the average professing christian doesn't really know a whole hell of a lot about how their faith is supposed to work.

Farencue - you're awesome!

Monster
 
Ralph said:
Along comes a promise that a loving being will fix all your problems...OR...real soon will be beaming you up to a magical happy place.

All that's required is you kiss some ass,vote republican, and none of that fagola stuff.
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Ralph that is so funny what you wrote.
Someone on another thread here directed me to a "church" site called godhatesfags.com after a discussion on hate filled religion.

To be honest I was shocked, and they call themselves "Christians"? wtf?

Thanks Ralph & Monster, its so good to meet likeminded people!
 
Farencue said:
Ralph that is so funny what you wrote.
Someone on another thread here directed me to a "church" site called godhatesfags.com after a discussion on hate filled religion.

To be honest I was shocked, and they call themselves "Christians"? wtf?

Thanks Ralph & Monster, its so good to meet likeminded people!
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Phelps and his clan are kinda special.
 
Farencue said:
its so good to meet likeminded people!
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Welcome, Farencue!

I read your superb, honest and frank post earlier and couldn't reply without coming across as trite

Anyhoo...

I find its always great to 'meet' new people here when they are obviously intent on thinking about and discussing stuff that I find interesting

See you in the soup! :)
 
or in hell six7's!!

But seriously, thankyou. I didnt want Slingblade to walk alone.
 
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Farencue said:
Hi Wendy and Mikillini

I shared my story not for pity but to illustrate what a load of rubbish religion is. Thankyou for your well wishes, they are much appreciated.

I have my own family to care for and they are my No 1 priority, but in the meantime we donate what we can to humanitarian causes in the way of money and goods.
One day in the future, when my children dont need me as they do now, I will do all I can to provide shelter and hope for abused children here in Australia.

If I survived perhaps they will too.
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And I'm glad you live in Australia, too. :)


M.
 
pchams said:
Kathy, one needs to open ones mind to be ever ready to accept truth (reality).

Charlie Campbell erroneously spills:

1. What evidence do you have that there is a God?”

This is a false trichotomy. ;)
A. We don't know

2.“What evidence do you have that the Bible is actually true?”

"Evidences"? What evidence? Where has it predicted the future, ever?

Uggg...I can't go on...just please answer the above question KKathy.
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Charlie's ever-so-subtly beginning to metamorphose into that other notorious Charlie from the 60s, it seems to me.


M.
 
Monster Machine said:
I find it funny how people, supposedly secure in their faith, get threatened by questions or other influences (Harry Potter... the new movie's out in July - can't wait for the BS to start). Is their faith so weak or their God so weak that they can't "weather the storm" so to speak.

If I can take anything away from my lurking activities here on the board, it's that the average professing christian doesn't really know a whole hell of a lot about how their faith is supposed to work.

Farencue - you're awesome!

Monster
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On behalf of everyone, a belated welcome to these proceedings.


M.
 
Farencue said:
Ralph that is so funny what you wrote.
Someone on another thread here directed me to a "church" site called godhatesfags.com after a discussion on hate filled religion.

To be honest I was shocked, and they call themselves "Christians"? wtf?

Thanks Ralph & Monster, its so good to meet likeminded people!
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I'm sure having decided to run your own life rather leaving it up to jesus will
be viewed as "another one lost to Satan and his evil atheist minions".

The prevailing viewpoint seems to be that atheists are a rather evil & hatefull bunch(esp toward christians). After all--why would anyody bother behaving like a decent human being without the fear of hellfire hanging over them.

It's interesting that both the JREF & RR have threads on the current influenza issue.

99% of the JREF threads are either "hard" science concering the nature of influenza,viruses, and epidemics or the expected debate about just how severe it could turn out to be.

I haven't seen a single thread here from anybody--theist or atheist--that thinks this is a good thing.

When news of the flue outbreak was posted over at RR however--it seemed to have been met with much glee.

"Hey everybody--look at this---flue outbreak in Mexico. It could be bad---millions of deaths".

"Yee-Haw---allrighty now----pandemic--millions dead-- Folks--this is it. This is gonna be the big one. I can feel it in my bones. Pack your bags & buckle your seat belts--we're GOIN HOME!!!"


No thought at all about 20-30 million dead. No concern for all the suffering & misery that a genuinely bad influenza outbreak could cause. There was somebody over there worried about if he could take his pickup truck with him after he was raptured. (I'm not making this up).

Just-as Road Toad said- it's all "ME ME ME!!"

What a lovely group of people.................
 
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Ralph said:
When news of the flue outbreak was posted over at RR however--it seemed to have been met with much glee.

"Hey everybody--look at this---flue outbreak in Mexico. It could be bad---millions of deaths".

"Yee-Haw---allrighty now----pandemic--millions dead-- Folks--this is it. This is gonna be the big one. I can feel it in my bones. Pack your bags & buckle your seat belts--we're GOIN HOME!!!"


No thought at all about 20-30 million dead. No concern for all the suffering & misery that a genuinely bad influenza outbreak could cause. There was somebody over there worried about if he could take his pickup truck with him after he was raptured. (I'm not making this up).

Just-as Road Toad said- it's all "ME ME ME!!"

What a lovely group of people.................
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Your claim sounded hard to believe so I poked around in the sticky Flu thread, and did find one person that closed his message with a cheering smiley. So bizarre. To be fair the number of people that described it as frightening far outnumbered the number of people who were buoyed by the outbreak.

I also found someone who washed her credit card in the dishwasher and this gem: "Imagine if it had started up a few weeks ago, when everyone was on spring break. I think God was merciful on his timing with this."
 
Ladewig said:
Your claim sounded hard to believe so I poked around in the sticky Flu thread, and did find one person that closed his message with a cheering smiley. So bizarre. To be fair the number of people that described it as frightening far outnumbered the number of people who were buoyed by the outbreak.

I also found someone who washed her credit card in the dishwasher and this gem: "Imagine if it had started up a few weeks ago, when everyone was on spring break. I think God was merciful on his timing with this."
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LOL.....no--I didn't mean to imply that everybody over there felt like that. I tried to find the thread I was referring to --couldn't but I'm sure it wasn't a sticky.

At any rate--this is more or less an ongoing thing over there. Anytime there's anything resembling a war or natural distaster in the world--the rapture index goes up and a fair number of them interpret that as "it's almost time" and get all excited about it. When things eventually settle down--you can almost sense the disappointment.

I wasn't making up the thing about the truck.
 
Paulhoff said:
No, it is yours KK, yours. It comes from yourself, that is why you know it so well and believe it to be true. It does not come from without, it only comes from within you brain. You just make it up to fit what you need.

Paul

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What are you talking about? God does not bow down to anyones wants. We either believe him and take him at his word or we don't. I believe the Bible and it is very clear that the return of Christ will be for him to come back and judge the world. Better to receive his forgiveness and avoid the white thrown judgement than not.

I love Jesus for the sacrifice he made to redeem the lost. I have a heart to know him, that's the difference between me and you. I love him because he first loved me.

And as for being rapture ready, I am praying "Come Lord" as all of this world is crying out for new life. How much more evil can this world stand?
 
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