French, Germans on Saddam Tribunal?

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I am not sure whether a tribunal should be solely Iraqi or International. But, if it is international, should France and their fellow travelers participate? I vote yes since Saddam is in no position to bribe them. The difficulty is that the sensitive europeans think that the death penalty is barbaric and I believe that the Iraqi's have no such refined scruples. So, they might be torn between recognizing cultural diversity and their own higher sense of what is right. Perhaps, if the French do participate, we could get a nice patronizing lecture frome the Elysee Palace.
 
Ed, your trolling isn't quite up to Godliness standards. It's a fair attempt in general, sure, but I expect better of God. Heck, you didn't even mention Tundra Mammoths.
 
Amnesty has concerns about the recently established tribunal. Concerns which become all the more relevant now.

For instance:

We are particularly concerned that the Iraqi Penal Code provides for the death penalty for crimes under the jurisdiction of the tribunal.
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Because after all, if he is dead, how will he be able to run for president again?

Realistically, Saddam's refusal to fight back during his capture may have significantly hurt his re-election chances, however.
 
After being de-briefed at Gitmo for 6-9 months I'd like the Iraqi people to put him on trial. It would serve as a basis for a real legal system.
 
DanishDynamite said:
Ed, your trolling isn't quite up to Godliness standards. It's a fair attempt in general, sure, but I expect better of God. Heck, you didn't even mention Tundra Mammoths.
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Listen, I'm in constant battle with Tundra Mammoths(tm). They evidentially crossed that ice bridge from Denmark that you have also been keeping secret. I have a suspicion that 9/11 was related to the emerging Tundra Mammoth infestation but it has, alas, been covered up.

Seriously, every post that begs a response is a troll, by definition. Just because the current one is sarcastic does not in any way diminish the seriousness of the question. A basic issue is whether Iraqi precident trumps european sensibilities. A side question, which is very sarcastic, is how the EU will patronize the Iraqis.

While I would have no problem with global representation (provided, naturally, that China, Japan and other countries that have the DP are included) I sort of think that a pure Iraqi deal would be for the best. A pan-arab tribunal would be interesting for it's innate hypocracy if nothing else. I do sorta think that he should be offed for the sake of closure, if nothing else. This notwithstanding my opposition to capitol punishment.
 
All of that said, if he ends up in retirement in France or Saudi Arabia I will be pretty pissed.
 
If Europe's treatment of other fallen dictators (Mobuto, Amin, etc.) is any indication, the EU's idea of punishment for Saddam is no TV for a week, and then retirement in the French riviera to enjoy the billions he stole and put in Swiss bank accounts.

After all, all he did is kill a few million people; no reason to use the "barbaric" death penalty or "violate his human rights" in an Iraqi prison.
 
I have a strong "feeling" Saddam will never leave Iraq, and suspect he will soon wish he had eaten a bullet, or at least gone out guns blazing.

2cts.
 
On CNN right now, Saddam is being described as "disoriented".


If this persists (and he does look "out of it" on the clips of his medical exam), can he be tried?

I apologize if this is a stupid question. I know next to nothing about these types of legal issues
 
hammegk wrote:
I have a strong "feeling" Saddam will never leave Iraq,
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According to a CBS report,Saddam has already left Iraq (probably on a military transport of some kind).

I guess we will get more on this later,wish I had a link,but alas......
 
Chad Noles said:
hammegk wrote:

According to a CBS report,Saddam has already left Iraq (probably on a military transport of some kind).

I guess we will get more on this later,wish I had a link,but alas......
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On CNN they said he had been taken "south"
 
In giving it some thought, he will never be hung.

We will trade his life for info, particularly WMDs. Look for him to be locked up in the Hague somewhere.

If he had (doubtful) any connection to 9/11, look for a Federal lockup over here.
 
And just to think. All those months ago, had he simply said "I have no WMD....anyone who wants to look, can come and look" and we would have sent in numerous inspectors and he would have carried on killing his own people, his son's would still be having families shot because their attractive daughter wouldn't have sex with them. Parents would still be paying for the paperwork after having seen their husbands and sons shot in front of them.....

..All that would have been "acceptable", simply because he said "ok come and look".

Unfortunately the primary voices in that course of action were the French, the Germans and the Russians.

He should be tried in Iraq, by Iraqis.......just Iraqis.
 
TruthSeeker said:
On CNN right now, Saddam is being described as "disoriented".


If this persists (and he does look "out of it" on the clips of his medical exam), can he be tried?

I apologize if this is a stupid question. I know next to nothing about these types of legal issues
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Actually, if he was tried in Texas he'd get the death penalty no matter what his mental state.
 
Ed said:
I am not sure whether a tribunal should be solely Iraqi or International. But, if it is international, should France and their fellow travelers participate? I vote yes since Saddam is in no position to bribe them. The difficulty is that the sensitive europeans think that the death penalty is barbaric and I believe that the Iraqi's have no such refined scruples. So, they might be torn between recognizing cultural diversity and their own higher sense of what is right. Perhaps, if the French do participate, we could get a nice patronizing lecture frome the Elysee Palace.
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I think that Jacques Chirac, Gerhard Schroeder and Hans Blix should be tried in seperate courts. :D
 
Supercharts said:


Actually, if he was tried in Texas he'd get the death penalty no matter what his mental state.
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I hear four Salvation Army Santas have been convicted and executed there for loitering since Thankgiving:D
 
Reginald said:
He should be tried in Iraq, by Iraqis.......just Iraqis.
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Which Iraqis? Should Kurds be included, for example? If so, isn't the bias an issue? If not, isn't nonrepresentation an issue?

People are acting like "Iraqis" are one fairly homogeneous culture, and that just ain't the case. This is a big reason why American and European policies about Iraq have failed miserably since the British created it.
 
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