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Ed Fox: Osama Bin Laden Is Our Only Hope

Only a paranoid conspiracy theorist would see this as an actual call or hope for a major terrorist attack.

A paranoid conspiracy theorist or, you know, someone listening to his exact words. Which were:

"The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States."

You think you have to be paranoid to read a hope for a terror attack there? Really?

Read it again.

Come on. Be honest. Don't play the right-wing hack in this thread. It was a silly thing for the guy to say, people on both sides say silly things.
 
Come on. Be honest. Don't play the right-wing hack in this thread. .

?????

right-wing hack? I am a social-democratic liberal my friend.

I just refuse to jump on the bash-Scheuer bandwagon. Forgive me if I am reluctant to label a fellow American a traitor without a little more context.
 
I just refuse to jump on the bash-Scheuer bandwagon.

"Bandwagon?"

This is what he really said:

"The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States."

Forgive me if I am reluctant to label a fellow American a traitor without a little more context.

The context has been provided in this thread, in video and written form. It doesn't take away any of the crazy, it just adds to it.
 
You really think Scheuer WANTS the USA to suffer a major terrorist attack?

Give me a break. He is a brave American and loves this country.

I don't think he wants a major terrorist attack. I think he wants liberals to shut up. If a couple of million dead bodies are what it takes to win an argument with a liberal, then so be it.
 
I'm sure you've all seen this, but let's start a thread about it:



"The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States."

Discuss.

Media Matters is desperate for material. I guess they know that nobody is watching MSNBC's KO and Maddow. Since Scheuer is a news analyst for CBS News, what does FOX News have to do with Sheuer's comment? Scheuer's views on Israel are more in sync with MSNBC's Pat Buchanan and CNN's Christianne Aminpour.
 
Scheuer read for substance: Without an external threat doing something dire, America eats itself from within.

Scheuer hoping to get on TV with his message: It will take an attack by OBL and his chums, a big attack, bigger than 9-11, to get America's head out of its collective arse and away from current self destructive political behavior.

He overstates his case, in my humble opinion.

I also question his judgment and motive. He is trying to parley his insider's understanding of OBL, from back in the day, into a competence for prediction that I don't, among others, have in him.

I think it will take a bit less than something of 9-11 scale to get America's eyes focused. But I agree with him to the extent that is more likely, in terms of politics, that an externally based threat will allow our political leadership to unite the fractured American body politic, as 9-11 did, more readily than any consensus on a domestic problem.

Most of what you fools have written in this thread ought to embarass you. You fell for hype, and gave hype style responses.

Nicely Trolled, Doctor A. :p I mark you nine points out of a possible ten.

Glenn Beck ought to be embarassed for his blatant pandering to overhype, and to Scheuer's attention seeking overstatement. (Scheuer doubtless has another book about to go on sale ... ) But lately, Beck has no shame.

He used to be funny, ha ha, a few years ago, on the radio.

Now, he's funny peculiar on both radio and TV. Mutation, not evolution. :p

DR
 
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The right wing wants Obama and, weith him, America, to fail, because it would make it appear that we were mistaken to send them packing.

Scheuer seems to have mistaken the imposition of draconian measures like the Patriot Act for rational law enforcement. The right wing appears to think that they have made us safer and more prosperous, and would revel in anything that gives the appearance that the left has no clue.

For years, I have heard the Ru8shblob ranting about how the left is willing to do anything to maintain political power, to accept anything that makes it seem as though we needed the liberal government programs.

Now the right is willing to accept an incident of mass murder if it suggests that they were right.

Frightened people are easier to control. Fear and greed are the sources of what remains of the GOP's power.
 
Frightened people are easier to control. Fear and greed are the sources of what remains of the GOP's power.

Fear and greed? I would say that is a key source of momentum for both parties.

PASS THE FRICKEN STIMULUS NOW OR ELSE THERE ARE DIRE CONSEQUENCES, THE EARMARKS CANT WAIT!
 
Media Matters is desperate for material.
And boy, do they ever get it.

I guess they know that nobody is watching MSNBC's KO and Maddow. Since Scheuer is a news analyst for CBS News, what does FOX News have to do with Sheuer's comment? Scheuer's views on Israel are more in sync with MSNBC's Pat Buchanan and CNN's Christianne Aminpour.
I wonder if, in your head, any of that was meaningful.
 
Wouldn't a foiled attack of just about any magnitude, as long as it was very clear to everyone that it was attempted, and equally clear that it was foiled by those agencies which are supposed to be doing that thing, be much more beneficial? It would re-state the threat without all the messy clean-up, scapegoating, economy tanking, etc.
 
Why does Glenn Beck hate America? ;)

ETA: After Beck's asinine bit about pouring gasoline on "the American taxpayer" and "having Obama light the match", I have since given up on taking this guy seriously. He does know how to get attention, though.
 
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I'm sure you've all seen this, but let's start a thread about it:



"The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States."

Discuss.

The video title said Glenn Beck agreed... but it doesn't show Glenn Beck agreeing.
 
I really don't think this jerk really hopes for an attack on USA soil. I think he's just making an extremely exaggerated and hyperbolic point. Yes, what he said was monumentally stupid, but I just can't believe he is wishing for a terrorist attack on the USA.

The guy is guilty of stupidity, not of sadism.

Keep in mind, I still hate the idiot.
 
Scheuer read for substance: Without an external threat doing something dire, America eats itself from within.

Scheuer hoping to get on TV with his message: It will take an attack by OBL and his chums, a big attack, bigger than 9-11, to get America's head out of its collective arse and away from current self destructive political behavior. ....
DR
How do you figure?

This is the quote:
Only Osama can execute an attack which will force Americans to demand that their government protect them effectively consistently and with as much violence as necessary
What does that have to do with anything except some bizarre fantasy we should obliterate anyone who might threaten us as if that is the only viable approach to every situation?
 
I really don't think this jerk really hopes for an attack on USA soil. I think he's just making an extremely exaggerated and hyperbolic point. Yes, what he said was monumentally stupid, but I just can't believe he is wishing for a terrorist attack on the USA.

The guy is guilty of stupidity, not of sadism.

Keep in mind, I still hate the idiot.
Seems to me he'd like to see us drop the bomb on Iran or the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan regardless of how many people die, including our soldiers. Why should he care if it takes a few thousand dead American civilians to achieve this goal of becoming dictator country in chief?

It's such an idiotic position. We need to get attacked because that will wake everyone up to the fact we could get attacked. What?
 
Wow, still dumping on Palin. How noble and classy of you. Seriously, that's pathetic.

And so is the guy in this news clip, and Glenn Beck. I hate Glenn Beck. I hated him when he was just on a radio, we had him for a while in the mornings locally, and I couldn't stand him. He should be ashamed for pushing such rhetoric.

But really, you guys need to get off the Palin obsession. It's none of your damn business what her children have done or haven't done, and her standing up for any kind of moral issues is absolutely irrelevant in the consideration, no matter how much you guys torture reality to try to make it so. It's a childish line of thinking. Completely. People can stand up for moral issues and still be flawed, or have made mistakes, or whatever. It shouldn't reflect on her in any way. Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong. But people want to think this somehow proves that moral stances are wrong and outdated, and offensive! What a bizzaro world we have come to inhabit...

Yes in this case for the most part she did the right thing. She loved and supported her daughter after she got in trouble.
 

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