Beck is not a news presenter in the sense that you mean. He's a chat show host.
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Ed Fox: Osama Bin Laden Is Our Only Hope
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Beck is not a news presenter in the sense that you mean. He's a chat show host.
Dr Adequate
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He's "real" insofar as his audience watches him 'cos they think he's for real.
Now, given that he can fool Fox News viewers, there is no reason for us to doubt that he is also successfully fooling himself. There are, evidently, many people dumb enough to believe what he says: therefore, there is no reason to doubt that he himself is one such person.
Given your psychic history, this should be a sure fire guarantee that the Democrats will be in charge for the foreseeable future.
Wow, still dumping on Palin. How noble and classy of you. Seriously, that's pathetic.
And so is the guy in this news clip, and Glenn Beck. I hate Glenn Beck. I hated him when he was just on a radio, we had him for a while in the mornings locally, and I couldn't stand him. He should be ashamed for pushing such rhetoric.
But really, you guys need to get off the Palin obsession. It's none of your damn business what her children have done or haven't done, and her standing up for any kind of moral issues is absolutely irrelevant in the consideration, no matter how much you guys torture reality to try to make it so. It's a childish line of thinking. Completely. People can stand up for moral issues and still be flawed, or have made mistakes, or whatever. It shouldn't reflect on her in any way. Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong. But people want to think this somehow proves that moral stances are wrong and outdated, and offensive! What a bizzaro world we have come to inhabit...
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I'm certainly not excusing the guest on Beck's show, but is there any context for what he said? My sense from the conversation was that the topic was enhanced interrogation techniques and how we needed them to prevent another terrorist attack. Which really makes his comment even dumber; we need another big terrorist attack so that we can get back to techniques that will prevent another big terrorist attack.
Wowbagger
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There is no doubt in my mind that the Republicans will, someday, return to power.
My concern is that some of them might be prone to do something... rather rash... even before that happens. I hope that doesn't happen. But, a large group of ego-damaged and disenfranchised pundits, spouting ideas that only huge disasters can bring everyone together again, is not a good sign.
You can help us pour some water on a few fuses, before they blow big-time, if you'd like. It would certainly be more productive than crying about the Democrats. Right?
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When "you guys" stop thinking that Osama Bin Laden is the savior of the country, maybe the other "you guys", the guys who aren't "you guys" could address the question of how "you guys" think that Sarah Palin is the savior of the country.
Oh, wait, isn't "you guys" the sort of partisan rhetoric that you have so often claimed to dislike?
I was swooning over Palin during her opening speech at the Republican Convention and became one of her biggest fans. But, I have to say the bloom came off the rose for me, and, others, too, and, I do not see higher public office in her future.
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So a prominent conservative Republican commentator openly calls for Osama bin Laden to attack the United States, and you're pissed because someone made an offhand crack about Sarah Palin's daughter having a kid out of wedlock.
If anything here is pathetic, it's your sense of priorities.
Maybe "you guys" need to clean up your own frelling house before telling everyone else not to track mud in theirs.
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Strangely the segment was mostly about immigration and closing the borders, the weird comment kind of came out of nowhere.
I refuse to believe the guest intended for the words to come out that way, but having seen the transcript (I'll try to dig up the link) there isn't really anything that clarifies it or puts it in context.
If he's been asked about it since then maybe he's backed off it a little bit. Beck ventures into crazyland more and more these days but I've never known Scheuer to say things that openly insane.
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What Scheuer said really isn't insane. Another attack by OBL would almost certainly drive Americans out of their minds further than the last time, more than ever willing to ignore Constitutional limits on government power, in addition to adding fervor to get OBL.
What is possibly insane is the wistful gleam in the eyes of neocons at the prospect of such an opportunity. It's not clear to me that Scheuer shares that extreme view though the clip seems to indicate the possibility. Despite his well justified criticism of the WOT, he's always clearly been a hawk.
What is possibly insane is the wistful gleam in the eyes of neocons at the prospect of such an opportunity. It's not clear to me that Scheuer shares that extreme view though the clip seems to indicate the possibility. Despite his well justified criticism of the WOT, he's always clearly been a hawk.
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I found the entire segment, and you're right it was in the context of immigration and border control. Very strange especially considering that the 9-11 hijackers all got into the country via legal means. And considering that Scheuer doesn't (as far as I know) have any particular expertise on the Mexican border.
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Cleon
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Only with Glenn Beck does taking a quote out of context actually make him look better.
Dancing David
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I used to miss the entertaining insanity that was the PTL network in the 80s, now I just watch glenn beck and laugh harder than I ever did at Tammy and Jim Baker.
What is frightening is somebody IS taking him seriously.
What is frightening is somebody IS taking him seriously.
Only a paranoid conspiracy theorist would see this as an actual call or hope for a major terrorist attack.
Scheuer is simply saying that the American people only really change when we are faced with catastrophy.
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Allen773
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I think Scheuer lost his mind obsessing over bin Laden in the CIA.
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Both statements are untrue.
You really think Scheuer WANTS the USA to suffer a major terrorist attack?
Give me a break. He is a brave American and loves this country.