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Fox News knew they were lying about election

And now the New York City Pension fund is suing Fox News for their election lies.




https://apnews.com/article/fox-election-lawsuit-new-york-oregon-c77a0630afca5de243a96265c5815b33

"“Fox’s board of directors has blatantly disregarded the need for journalistic standards and failed to put safeguards in place despite having a business model that invites defamation litigation,” said New York City Comptroller Brad Lander, who manages the city’s pension funds."

Love it.
 
While I definitely believe Fox News should be held accountable for spreading lies, I'm somewhat leery about shareholder lawsuits. When the claim is, "This company acted irresponsibly and as a result my financial interest in it lost value," the natural (albeit a bit naïve) answer is, "Then you probably shouldn't have invested in it." The pension fund knew who Fox News was and how they make their money. And they may also have had time to withdraw their investment when Fox's defamatory behavior become evident. Investment comes with risk of loss, and you can argue they should have seen this coming.

But obviously that shouldn't end the discussion. A publicly traded company shouldn't be allowed to be wantonly reckless with investor funds. There is a legally cognizable fiduciary responsibility involved. Fox News does have a legal duty to run the company responsibly.

While the fact that Fox News knew they were lying about the election bears on their liability for defamation, it doesn't have the same immediate effect on their liability for shareholder value. Fox News has been peddling lies from Day One, a fact surely known to all potential investors and an integral part of Fox News' businesses plan. They know they're spreading carefully curated lies. It's a little late to accuse them of lax journalistic standards when they've been lax all along.

And this business model (i.e., lying to conservative viewers) has resulted overall in financial success of the kind that attracts investment. It has a proven track record that includes The National Enquirer and historically tolerates defamation litigation with little loss of shareholder value. New York City's pension fund had no apparent problem with Fox News' lack of journalistic integrity when it was making them money. So they may have a hard time arguing that it's suddenly now a thorn in their side. Tabloid journalism isn't irresponsible per se, from the corporate governance standpoint. You can have a successful, well-run company whose product is a stream of lies directed at those who want to hear it.

Don't get me wrong: I think Fox News behaved dishonestly, illegally, and reprehensibly. And they've arguably crossed a line from relatively harmless gossip to truly actionable propaganda and mismanagement. I think they should be held accountable in ways that seriously challenge their ability to continue doing business as they have. I just don't think that this cause of action has as good a moral foundation as some of the others.
 
While I definitely believe Fox News should be held accountable for spreading lies, I'm somewhat leery about shareholder lawsuits. When the claim is, "This company acted irresponsibly and as a result my financial interest in it lost value," the natural (albeit a bit naïve) answer is, "Then you probably shouldn't have invested in it." The pension fund knew who Fox News was and how they make their money. And they may also have had time to withdraw their investment when Fox's defamatory behavior become evident. Investment comes with risk of loss, and you can argue they should have seen this coming.

But obviously that shouldn't end the discussion. A publicly traded company shouldn't be allowed to be wantonly reckless with investor funds. There is a legally cognizable fiduciary responsibility involved. Fox News does have a legal duty to run the company responsibly.

While the fact that Fox News knew they were lying about the election bears on their liability for defamation, it doesn't have the same immediate effect on their liability for shareholder value. Fox News has been peddling lies from Day One, a fact surely known to all potential investors and an integral part of Fox News' businesses plan. They know they're spreading carefully curated lies. It's a little late to accuse them of lax journalistic standards when they've been lax all along.

And this business model (i.e., lying to conservative viewers) has resulted overall in financial success of the kind that attracts investment. It has a proven track record that includes The National Enquirer and historically tolerates defamation litigation with little loss of shareholder value. New York City's pension fund had no apparent problem with Fox News' lack of journalistic integrity when it was making them money. So they may have a hard time arguing that it's suddenly now a thorn in their side. Tabloid journalism isn't irresponsible per se, from the corporate governance standpoint. You can have a successful, well-run company whose product is a stream of lies directed at those who want to hear it.

Don't get me wrong: I think Fox News behaved dishonestly, illegally, and reprehensibly. And they've arguably crossed a line from relatively harmless gossip to truly actionable propaganda and mismanagement. I think they should be held accountable in ways that seriously challenge their ability to continue doing business as they have. I just don't think that this cause of action has as good a moral foundation as some of the others.

Aren't they suing Fox Corporation, not Fox News?

Fox Corporation includes the Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, Fox Business, the national operations of Fox Sports, and others.
 
Aren't they suing Fox Corporation, not Fox News?

Fox Corporation includes the Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, Fox Business, the national operations of Fox Sports, and others.

Yes, that's what it says in the article. They are suing the entity in which they had invested. You can't invest in Fox News, a subsidiary, separately.
 
Aren't they suing Fox Corporation, not Fox News?

Fox Corporation includes the Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, Fox Business, the national operations of Fox Sports, and others.

My reading is that they are suing the company and the board members who would have had a responsibility to the shareholders.

Big companies have Directors and Officers (D&O) insurance plans that cover these people from personal liability, but presumably a losing lawsuit would probably result in some changes in their policies and oversight.

So it's not just shareholders suing their own company, but also going after the board members personally in their abdication of duty.

Here's discussion of the thorny legal situation from back in April concerning a different Fox shareholder that is suing the board:

https://www.dandodiary.com/2023/04/articles/shareholders-derivative-litigation/the-derivative-suit-against-the-fox-board-for-just-got-a-lot-more-interesting/

The derivative lawsuit itself undoubtedly will also face a serious motion to dismiss. In that regard, readers may want to consider that the Delaware Vice Chancellor Travis Laster, to whom the Fox derivative lawsuit has been assigned, recently granted the motion to dismiss in the Caremark claim lawsuit pending against the McDonald’s board. On the other hand, the Laster denied the motion to dismiss in the same proceeding with respect to a McDonald’s officer. The one thing I know is that, regardless of how all of this plays out, it will be interesting to watch.

The derivative suit presents some very thorny legal issues, as Tulane Law Professor Ann Lipton notes in an April 15, 2023, post on the Business Law Prof Blog (here). Professor Lipton’s discussion of the lawsuit centers on the fact that the complaint alleges that the defendants were aware of the falsehood of the stolen election claims but acquiesced in the continued reporting to preserve Fox News’s viewership. As Professor Lipton puts it, “the actual allegation is that the board was trying to maximize shareholder wealth – not that it neglected its duties, and not even that false political claims benefitted board members personally.”

The theoretical problem for Lipton is “where we draw the line on the hard limits of authorized corporate activity.” That is, how far can corporate executives go in giving primacy to maximizing shareholder wealth? Under existing Delaware case law, intentional lawbreaking crosses over that line. Other Caremark cases have stated that “intentional violation of positive law” also crosses the line. But where does defamation fall with respect to that line? Does conduct such as defamation, which can give rise to civil tort liability, rise to the level of “intentional violation of positive law”? Does it matter that defamation is in fact criminal in 24 U.S. states?
 
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It's shareholders suing the parent company, Fox Corporation, so I think the case has more of a "moral foundation" than JayUtah thought.

In layman's terms, Fox Corporation has a duty to shareholders that includes holding assets that are beneficial to shareholders. Fox News fell short of being a beneficial asset, according to the case.
 
It's shareholders suing the parent company, Fox Corporation, so I think the case has more of a "moral foundation" than JayUtah thought.

In layman's terms, Fox Corporation has a duty to shareholders that includes holding assets that are beneficial to shareholders. Fox News fell short of being a beneficial asset, according to the case.

They are also personally suing the board members themselves, so it's not only a case of trying to get money from a company they themselves have ownership stakes in.
 
Murdoch is stepping down from his position of CEO and his son, Lachlan, is stepping in. He is known to be even more right wing than his father,
 
Murdoch is stepping down from his position of CEO and his son, Lachlan, is stepping in. He is known to be even more right wing than his father,

Yes, although I do suspect Lachlan has been the major influence in Fox becoming even more CT-based over the past 5 or 10 years.
 
It's shareholders suing the parent company, Fox Corporation, so I think the case has more of a "moral foundation" than JayUtah thought.

In layman's terms, Fox Corporation has a duty to shareholders that includes holding assets that are beneficial to shareholders. Fox News fell short of being a beneficial asset, according to the case.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying!
 
Former Australian Prime Minister nominated to Fox Corporation board of directors.

Former prime minister Tony Abbott has been nominated to join Fox Corporation’s board of directors, a day after Rupert Murdoch announced his retirement.

The nomination will be considered by shareholders at the media giant’s annual meeting in November, a media statement released on Friday (Saturday AEST) confirmed.

Nominated alongside Abbott was technology executive Peggy Johnson.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...tt-to-join-fox-corporation-board-of-directors

He is suited to the job, which is not a good thing.
 
Murdoch is stepping down from his position of CEO and his son, Lachlan, is stepping in. He is known to be even more right wing than his father,

He's also well known as the most useless of the Dirty Digger's get. Problem is the other kids want nothing to do with the company, except to take their share of the profits.
 
https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...ter-hearing-on-leaked-dominion-documents/amp/

maybe the most relevant thread for this? it’s involving the arrest of a trumpster election fraud lawyer for a dominion defamation case against the overstock ceo patrick byrne for illegally accessing voting machines and leaking emails from discovery through social media. mouthful but she’s up to some crazy ****

Is Lambert one of those 'very best' that Trump claimed he'd surround himself with?
 

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