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Forcing immigrants to renounce their religion

The Libs simply can't win there. Are the Greens or Independents a chance? I doubt it. This has long been a Labor stronghold, and I think it will go that way again.
 
lionking said:
The Libs simply can't win there. Are the Greens or Independents a chance? I doubt it. This has long been a Labor stronghold, and I think it will go that way again.
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The Nats hold it by a pretty thumping majority - the 2010 2PP was 66/33 :eek:
 
lionking said:
Nitpick time. 0.8% of Morwell people (108) are Arabic, so no doubt some are Muslim. This percentage is only slightly lower than the Victorian and Australian average of 1.3%. Yet when people are surveyed thay say (from memory) that 20% of the population is Muslim.

ETA, it's 18% against the real figure of 2%.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ns-think-muslim-population-nine-times-greater
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Muslim do tend to live in pockets of populations. Growing up in Lidcombe and Auburn, Muslims would almost be the majority demographics.
 
MG1962 said:
Muslim do tend to live in pockets of populations. Growing up in Lidcombe and Auburn, Muslims would almost be the majority demographics.
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I know. I've been to Meadow Heights in Melbourne with a Muslim woman. The shopping centre there has almost all Muslim shops.
 
angrysoba said:
As for religious tests for immigration, the only first-world country I can think of that gives overt preferential treatment to migrants on religious grounds is Israel.
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It's a bit more complicated, the definition of "Jew" in the Law of Return is ethnical rather than religious.
angrysoba said:
I think the EU would be prohibited from doing so, although there have certainly been a lot of politicians in EU countries, such as even France and Germany, I believe, who insist that Europe is fundamentally a Christian place, and they have been resisting the entry of Turkey to the EU partly on those grounds.
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I'm reminded of the first drafts of the EU Constitution that never came to be, which included a phrase about a Christian inheritance.

But the only first world country I can think of with a religious test for immigration lies within the EU.
Vatican City
 
ddt said:
But the only first world country I can think of with a religious test for immigration lies within the EU.
Vatican City
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Geographically it could be said to be "within the EU". However, it is not politically within the EU.
 
angrysoba said:
Geographically it could be said to be "within the EU". However, it is not politically within the EU.
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I chose my words carefully: "lies within the EU". ;)

ETA: I do run the risk of getting Vatican coins in my purse when shopping in my hometown, though.
 
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lionking said:
I know. I've been to Meadow Heights in Melbourne with a Muslim woman. The shopping centre there has almost all Muslim shops.
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It would be an interesting exercise to poll non Muslims from those areas and see what their perception is. Personally I think my exposure to them growing up is the cause of my very relaxed attitude to non Christian faiths.
 
Some demographic data:

Religious affiliation statistics also paint a diverse picture. Niddrie is comfortably the most Christian electorate (74 per cent). Indeed, a cluster of seats in Melbourne's outer north, including Sydenham, Mill Park and Sunbury, are the most thoroughly Christian.

On the other hand, the inner city is a stronghold of no religious affiliation, led by Richmond at 39 per cent, but also encompassing the electorates of Northcote, Melbourne, Brunswick, Prahran and Albert Park. Monbulk, however, disturbs that neat geographic pattern by having the second most non-believers.

Another striking fact is that Broadmeadows has by far the highest proportion of Muslims at 31.6 per cent — more than double the next highest electorate (Dandenong). On the other hand, half of Victoria's Legislative Assembly districts have less than 1 per cent residents of Muslim faith. Similarly, five seats (led by Keysborough) have more than 10 per cent Buddhists, whereas the majority of constituencies have fewer than 2 per cent.
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Biblically based / western countries historically have thus erred in allowing citizenship to immigrants whose allegiance is to a foreign gods.
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I don't suppose any reporters have asked her to give some examples of foreign gods.
(Damn those allegiance-stealing foreign gods)

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When she says Biblically-based countries, is she referring to Australia?

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Wait, I just realized that Jesus is the foreign God in Australia. If only the indigenous Ausrtalian people had demanded that the immigrants renounce their allegiance to their "foreign God".
 
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Why does she think that the Jews are biblical, but that Muslims aren't?
If she's going with Abrahamic faiths, then they both are. If she's literally talking about the Bible, then neither are, but the Muslims are closer.
They recognise Jesus as a prophet, for a start.

I'm not sure if she's hiding racism behind religion or if she's genuinely a religious extremist.
Probably the former.
 
Dissolution said:
I'm not sure if she's hiding racism behind religion or if she's genuinely a religious extremist.
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perhaps some of both.
After all, racism and religious extremism are siblings; the bastard children of willful ignorance and crippling pride.
 
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