Forcing immigrants to renounce their religion

Brian-M

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Apparently non-Christian immigrants are a threat to this nation. At least, according to one politician.

Looks like this is one candidate I definitely won't be voting for in the upcoming election.

From an article in my local newspaper:
Latrobe Valley Express said:
A Christian who believes upholding the first commandment is the key to overcoming the terrorist threat in Australia has announced her intention to run for the seat of Morwell in November's state election.

In a political platform sent to The Express, Traralgon resident Jacqueline Rose identified allowing immigrants into Australia who do not worship the Christian god as an "error" that has allowed a threat to the nation "that we know" to develop.

Also among the independent candidate's platforms are allowing asylum seekers and immigrants entry to Australia "only if they give allegiance to our religion".

"If they don't want to do that they should go back to their country where they want to fight each other and kill each other," Ms Rose told The Express.

She said new arrivals should be happy to be forced to renounce their religion.

Complete article: http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/2668648/threat-to-australia.

I'm just wondering now, are there any (first-world) countries that have policies like this in place?
 
Does this wacko stand much chance of getting far in politics in Australia?

As for religious tests for immigration, the only first-world country I can think of that gives overt preferential treatment to migrants on religious grounds is Israel.

I think the EU would be prohibited from doing so, although there have certainly been a lot of politicians in EU countries, such as even France and Germany, I believe, who insist that Europe is fundamentally a Christian place, and they have been resisting the entry of Turkey to the EU partly on those grounds.
 
Does this wacko stand much chance of getting far in politics in Australia?

Probably not.

But stranger things have happened, such as Pauline Hanson's One Nation party getting 22% of the (Queensland) state vote in 1998.
 
I think you're both right. Nobody has a mortgage on stupid.

In the context of where I grew up to say someone had a mortgage on something was to say they had complete ownership of whatever topic is being discussed. In this instance being stupid.

The English language indeed an interesting concept lol
 
In the context of where I grew up to say someone had a mortgage on something was to say they had complete ownership of whatever topic is being discussed.

Hmm. I thought you actually meant monopoly, but used the wrong word by mistake.
 
Interestingly she mentions "our religion".

Is that obviously Christianity? Could it instead refer to the worship of the Aussie Cricket Team (notwithstanding their current mini-slump?)
 
Lol :rolleyes:

Because Muslim immigrants are Morwell's most pressing issue.

A town where this happened earlier this year:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/hazelwood-coal-mine-fire-morwell/5711564

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45 days of an open cut coal mine smouldering within a hundred metres of homes and coating the town in toxic coal ash.

I'd be shocked if Morewell had even one Muslim family living there and that's what this wingnut is railing against?
 
I'd be shocked if Morewell had even one Muslim family living there and that's what this wingnut is railing against?

Nitpick time. 0.8% of Morwell people (108) are Arabic, so no doubt some are Muslim. This percentage is only slightly lower than the Victorian and Australian average of 1.3%. Yet when people are surveyed thay say (from memory) that 20% of the population is Muslim.

ETA, it's 18% against the real figure of 2%.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ns-think-muslim-population-nine-times-greater
 
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Nitpick time. 0.8% of Morwell people (108) are Arabic, so no doubt some are Muslim.

Nitpicking your nitpick, Arabic immigrants aren't the only demographic that tends to be Islamic. Sudanese immigrants, for example, also tend to be mostly Islamic.

But only 0.4% of the Morwell population are Islamic, so I suppose it's not a big issue.

But this isn't about the population of a single small town, but about someone running for a state election.

About 2.9% of the state's population is Islamic, which comes to 152,779 people. (Source.)
 
Ms Rose's electoral advisers: "There's good news and bad news: Only a tiny percentage of the population is Muslim."
 
45 days of an open cut coal mine smouldering within a hundred metres of homes and coating the town in toxic coal ash.

That's been over with since March, so it's hardly a pressing issue.

But that is a great photo.

(I do remember driving into Morwell and seeing the school crossing guards wearing dust masks. Helicopters dumping water. The dust was even pretty thick around my area, and I live about 13 km or 8 miles away.)

ETA: I did try to take a picture of it after the fire was out, but you can't get a good shot from the side of the highway...

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It looks more impressive when you're driving along beside it.
 
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I was just flicking through Thursday's local paper before throwing it in the recycling bin when I noticed that Jaqueline Rose (the politician this thread is about) has written a letter in response to the article.

I can't find it on the Latrobe Valley Express website, so I've re-typed it from the paper:

Latrobe Valley Express - Your Letters said:
I write in response to your item about me on the front page of (The Express, 3 November) with your heading “Threat to Australia” and your sub-heading “Morwell candidate claims non-Christian immigrants threat to the nation”.

After you phoned me to interview me, did you then decide that it would be a clever journalistic thing to do to put your own slant to my platform?

I sent you a press release which you have butchered.

I did not sat that non-Christian immigrants were a threat to the nation, – the only time I used the word “threat” was in my heading “Ten Facts – How to Overcome the Terrorist Threat in Victoria and Australia”

Furthermore I did not, in your second paragraph, say the following: “...allowing immigrants into Australia who do not worship the Christian god as an “error” that has allowed a threat to the nation “that we know” to develop.

You are pharaphrasing in an incorrect and detrimental way point five of my “Ten Facts”, being:

“Biblically based/western countries historically have thus erred in allowing citizenship to immigrants whose allegiance is to a foreign god”.

I did not say they had to “worship” God or Jesus, but their allegiance must first be to our constitutional monarchy.

Many Australians are atheists, but if they have to choose between living in a Christian country or a Muslim country which one do you think they would choose, i.e., give allegiance to? Which one would you choose, Ms Chambers?

Under my heading “Implementation of the Ten Facts in the Victorian State Government,” point 3(a), you have correctly quoted me by writing “asylum seekers and new immigrants to be given visas and entry only if they give allegiance to our religion”.

I did not say that “new arrivals should be happy to be forced to renounce their religion”.

You know quite well that I said that some Muslims may well be relieved if our government made it a necessary provision to renounce their religion, as this may well prevent their relatives who are still enslaved in backward Muslim countries to be punished because their relatives in Australia 'chose' to give up Islam.

See how you have twisted and perverted what I have said. Further along you write: “While Ms Rose would not say what she disliked about other religions, she said “others” only had to watch the television news for reasons”.

First – I did not say that I disliked other religions. I am not talking about other religions – I am talking about upholding our own religion, which you certainly did not do in your article.

I also did not say “others” – I include myself in with everyone else – I said “you” or “we”.

And I did not say “for reasons”.

Reasons meaning what? Reasons to dislike other religions?

Or reasons for why we must make sure that our country does not regress to the level of violence in countries which are not biblically based?

Not once did I use the word “Christian” in what I sent you, yet you have attributed that word to me a number of times. I use the word “biblical”, as this includes the Jews.

Jaqueline Rose, Traralgon


As for that last point, I notice that she does say "our religion" a lot. That's "religion", singular. And since the various branches of Christianity constitute the main religion practiced in this country, it's only reasonable to assume she means Christianity.
 
Nitpick time. 0.8% of Morwell people (108) are Arabic, so no doubt some are Muslim. This percentage is only slightly lower than the Victorian and Australian average of 1.3%. Yet when people are surveyed thay say (from memory) that 20% of the population is Muslim.

ETA, it's 18% against the real figure of 2%.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ns-think-muslim-population-nine-times-greater

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That's been over with since March, so it's hardly a pressing issue.

I wouldn't call it "over" - people will be living with the health consequences for decades to come

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-...study-into-hazelwood-mine-fire-impact/5866204

And it certainly is an issue that has been tipped as a potential threat to the sitting National MP

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/v...e-lund-launches-campaign-20141007-10rm2y.html

The Vic government is desperate to avoid coal becoming an election issues - both in the LaTrobe and in a number of other regional electorates who are under mining license for gas fracking - a moratorium on which is set to expire shortly after the election.

Sadly, the environment isn't anywhere near the top of the agenda in this election but it should be. People are going to be shocked when the state is transformed into a resources economy on the scale that certain vested interests are hoping and planning for.
 

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