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Forcefeild Thermate, Remote Controlled planes and LCFC predictions

Undesired Walrus

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LCFC is coming out eventually, and from the looks of the trailer, Mr Stephen Jones is going to be in it (Poor Uncle Fetzer).

We should thus expect Thermate upon Thermate. Given Jones having the personality of a filing cabinet, I fail to see how Avery is going to pull this off at all....

But most importantly, here is the thing. Avery has recently banned the old 'No-planers' on his board, but if you think about it, he is a closet No-planer himself.

Why?

This
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I ask you, how on Earth did this thermate bomb survive the plane explosion, which destroyed the floors above?

There is only one explanation, it had to be a remote controlled plane. Allow some hijackers to slam a plane into the towers (LIHOP) and you have no idea which part it will hit.

Allow a remote controlled plane to slam into the towers (MIHOP) and you have a chance of the explosives surviving.

I'd like to turn the tables on the truthers. Assuming the towers were brought down by thermate, how much would it take, and would the operation go wrong if the plane destroyed certain bombs on certain floors?
 
My biggest question is why would this 2000+C thermite not immediately melt the perimeter aluminium facade which it literally cascaded over? The answer is of course that it isn't at 2000C (and that aluminium is a decent heat sink but it was insulated with SFRM)
 
I'd like to turn the tables on the truthers. Assuming the towers were brought down by thermate, how much would it take, and would the operation go wrong if the plane destroyed certain bombs on certain floors?
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If he uses the planes and fire he would not need any because the buildings would fall anyways.

As far as I can tell the thermate is just for show and to make molten iron.
 
Undesired Walrus:

And yes why did we only see ONE thermite "bomb" going off in that ONE particular corner of that ONE floor.

Was the aircraft trajectory pre-set to do that? If so that's some pretty sharp shooting even if the plane was remote controlled....!

Personally, I go for the on-board oxygen cylinder theory as far more likely.
 
You know, when Truthers bring up thermite/ate, you can turn their own "first time in history" argument against them, like so:


No building in history has ever collapsed from themite/ate!
 
You need about 1 kg thermite to produce 0.5 Kg molten iron. Allowing the wooish morons to call this flowing material molten iron, we are looking at a volume (total flow) of what has been said to be 8 tons (considering the density of iron). That would require 16 tons of thermite. That is 32000 pounds. A flowerpot full of thermite is about 5 pounds. Where was 32000 pounds of thermite hidden in an office building?
 
Apollo20 said:
Undesired Walrus:

And yes why did we only see ONE thermite "bomb" going off in that ONE particular corner of that ONE floor.

Was the aircraft trajectory pre-set to do that? If so that's some pretty sharp shooting even if the plane was remote controlled....!

Personally, I go for the on-board oxygen cylinder theory as far more likely.
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Isn't it a remarkable coincidence that it is the one and only spot in which a thermate reaction is going off is also where a huge airplane loaded with aluminium (Damn you Americans, I keep calling it A-loo-man-im rather than its proper pronouncement, A-lay-min-yum) is resting?

Sharp shot indeed.

Honestly folks, after all these years, how can LCFC be anything other than a complete travesty?
 
Looks like thermite to me, the rest must just be chilling inside of the building and somehow not pouring out the sides as thousands of pounds of it go off to cut the buckling and weakening perimeter columns. Oddly enough, the flow above is going BETWEEN two perimeter columns and doesn't cut either one of them...whoops, the government must have misplaced that one.

Maybe the government was just concentrating the laser beam at that point in the building to make sure it worked, this caused some aluminum to melt and flow out of the building.
 
Apollo20 said:
And yes why did we only see ONE thermite "bomb" going off in that ONE particular corner of that ONE floor.
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Indeed. If thermite took down the towers the buildings would have looked like a massive fireworks show.

Your argument could also apply to the "squibs." Why are the squibs only going off on a few floors and at random places?

You need about 1 kg thermite to produce 0.5 Kg molten iron. Allowing the wooish morons to call this flowing material molten iron, we are looking at a volume (total flow) of what has been said to be 8 tons (considering the density of iron). That would require 16 tons of thermite. That is 32000 pounds. A flowerpot full of thermite is about 5 pounds. Where was 32000 pounds of thermite hidden in an office building
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Engima, I think you've just touched on why twoofers never offer numbers as to how much thermite was used. "A lot" is all they're willing to say.
 
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CHF said:
Engima, I think you've just touched on why twoofers never offer numbers as to how much thermite was used. "A lot" is all they're willing to say.
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This is just one reason why a 6 year old can make wooish arguments for CD look totally stupid.
 
I wonder if Stephen Jones understands he is making himself a laughing stock to the scientific community? Enigma, is that 8 tons alone in that isolated pocket? Yet it had to be planted on everysingle floor?????

Isn't Dylan a tad embarrased to get a mormon scientist to do this groundbreaking research?

I dont know, something pisses me off about Jones, perhaps it is his shy voice that always seems to be on the verge of a snigger.
 
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get mr.gage to show us one example of a building demolition where thermite cutter charges were used.

TAM:)
 
do you mean snicker, UW, or is the word snigger valid, and if so, what does it mean...lol

TAM;)

Edit: well I'll be good godamned, it is a version of snicker...I have never seen it before, or if I have, I took it, as now, incorrectly as an error...sorry chap.

TAM:)
 
If that was molten iron, why didn't it also melt the thousands of tons of aluminum aircraft debris also? How come only the iron melted?
 
T.A.M. said:
do you mean snicker, UW, or is the word snigger valid, and if so, what does it mean...lol

TAM;)

Edit: well I'll be good godamned, it is a version of snicker...I have never seen it before, or if I have, I took it, as now, incorrectly as an error...sorry chap.

TAM:)
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Brit spelling.;) Like A-lay-in-yum, not the dodgy version you guys use..

Infact, I have never known the form called 'snicker'! This is all I think of
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Anyway, odds about Jones using his 'hot knife through butter' metaphor in FC?
 
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do those guys still cling to the no plane at the pentagon claim? It seems that most CTs have jumped ship on that one.
 
wats the trubble wit yous guys?
The marmite was in tje plain. The peeple in the plain were all replced with marmite. tuns and tuns of marmite. :mad:
 
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