For Believers, Just How Important Is Immortality?

heaven (mind) and earth (body) will pass away, but my words (love god and neighbour) will not pass away.

feel better?
 
Still nonsense.
There's no one to babble the words, and no one (fortunately) to hear them.
 
From what I gleaned from the old testament, the deal with appeasing God was not so much about long-term boons in the afterlife: it was about long-term boons for your progeny.
 
If the words are subject to interpretation, and are actually just strung together in a form that resembles a sentence, but contains and passed on no information or intelligence, then that sentence is gibberish.
And, as it is said to be unable to be understood literally, it is gibberish.
Great thought to guide one's life by, that.
 
Jake Dale said:
what's nonsense is you're reading it literally when it so obviously tells you, you can't.
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What makes it even more nonsense is that even the "but it's a metaphor" gang, can't seem to figure out an obvious thing it's a metaphor for.

I'm sorry, but the purpose of a metaphor is to convey some known meaning from one context to another. E.g., if I say "company X with its firing half the R&D department is eating its seed grain", I'm conveying a very clear meaning. It's taking what you already know about another situation, to make the point _clearer_ about the company X and in less words.

A "metaphor" where you just have to know to do some substitutions of completely unrelated words, like substitute "heaven" with "mind" and "earth" with "body", although nothing in context suggests that and there is no meaning to transfer from one context to another, is really just another form of gibberish. It's not even a metaphor. There is no knowledge to transfer from "heaven" and "earth", to "mind" and "body" or viceversa in that phrase. Nothing you may know about one, leaves you any wiser about the other, after you read that phrase.

That's not a metaphor, that's madlibs. "___ (noun) and ___ (another noun) will pass away but ____ (phrase) will not pass away." You're just replacing words to make some gibberish make sense.
 
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let me make it more simple for you.

people die, and it is every generation's task to bring love into the world.

feel better now? if not, no worries, jesus is your homeboy.
 
The thought of an eternal afterlife free of pain, misery and struggle seems just anti-human to me. I can't even being to imagine a world without pain and struggle.
 
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Arcade22 said:
The thought of an eternal afterlife free of pain, misery and struggle seems just anti-human to me. I can't even being to imagine a world without pain and struggle.
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If *you* survive death, *you* are no longer human.
 
Jake Dale said:
let me make it more simple for you.

people die, and it is every generation's task to bring love into the world.

feel better now? if not, no worries, jesus is your homeboy.
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"On this small planet, in the daily dreams of our life, beneficial deeds are always recommended, simply because we are all born to help each other.
By sharing our love with different expressions and through the practice of generosity, morality and understanding, we will then be fulfilling our purpose of being members of the human race." - Gyalwang Drukpa May 2009

The logos persists even in the voices of different understanding.
 
There otherwise being no "purpose" to the human race, that should be a motto and bumpersticker and all that need ever be said about humans interacting with other humans.
MOF, it is a well-known precept in just about every culture.
No need to have a "homeboy", just some kindness to others.
 
theprestige said:
For unbelievers, just how important is the question of the importance of immortality to believers?
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There is an hypothesis that religion is an attempt to mitigate fear of death.
I suspect it follows some atheists would hope that creating a secular approach to death would weaken the attraction of religion.

I'm not convinced that religious people are very dependent on the concept of an afterlife, be it destination or reincarnation or other model.
 
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