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Focus Fusion?

This is why I think there is possibly something to this; http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.115003

A high energy discharge phenomenon that is unexplained and suggests a nuclear reaction.

I do think it's hucksterism to offer those premiums, but heck I think it might be worth pitching $10 at just to see what it does.

Then again, I like building weird high voltage machines just for the awesome effects you get.
 
BenBurch said:
This is why I think there is possibly something to this; http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.115003

A high energy discharge phenomenon that is unexplained and suggests a nuclear reaction.

I do think it's hucksterism to offer those premiums, but heck I think it might be worth pitching $10 at just to see what it does.

Then again, I like building weird high voltage machines just for the awesome effects you get.
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Pascal's Wager. The scammer's friend!
 
BenBurch said:
This is why I think there is possibly something to this; http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.115003

I do think it's hucksterism to offer those premiums, but heck I think it might be worth pitching $10 at just to see what it does.
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Pitching $10 at Eric Lerner does not help "see what it does." The concern is that throwing $10 at Eric Lerner would allow him to operate "it", but merely operating "it" doesn't tell anyone what it does. If Lerner runs some contraption and self-publishes some unintelligible mix of raw data, poorly-processed data, crackpot confirmation biases, and simple errors ... well, whether or not the device in fact produced some interesting fusion effect, the world will be just as much in the dark about it as we were if Lerner hadn't bothered.

Find a competent plasma researcher (including, yes, garage experimenters) and give them your $10.
 
Just as an update, they were able to raise $180,279 for this "fusion" scam.

sigh. I wish some science project that actually had a chance at successful results would get that kind of money from strangers.
 
You will receive Scientific Immortality! Your name acknowledged as a funder in the scientific papers announcing our breakthroughs,
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You'll be remembered along with all the other famous funders of scientific breakthroughs. . . . Wait, I'm sure I can think of an example. . . they're all household names, after all. . . . .

;)
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
You'll be remembered along with all the other famous funders of scientific breakthroughs. . . . Wait, I'm sure I can think of an example. . . they're all household names, after all. . . . .

;)
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What about the Holy Roman Emperor Rudolph II?
Tycho Brahe was working for Emperor Rudolf II and had both the most exact empiric data and the most exact measuring instruments of his time. Kepler was assistant of Brahe and there he saw the possibility to test his astronomical theories empirically.
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http://www.einstein-website.de/biographies/kepler_content.html

Mind you, Rudolph was concerned mainly with astrological predictions, so his motivations were a bit crazy.

Your Majesty, the orbit of Mars is an ellipse, and you will meet a tall dark stranger. That'll be a hundred florins please.
 
Mendeli said:
Just as an update, they were able to raise $180,279 for this "fusion" scam.

sigh. I wish some science project that actually had a chance at successful results would get that kind of money from strangers.
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Your comment prompted me to go to IndieGogo and see what other science projects are trying to get funding:

Fund these zero-point energy crackpots to turn their theory into a startup company!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/z-point-energy-biggest-discovery-of-science
$4,080USD RAISED OF $2,000,000 GOAL

Help this author publish a free-energy-crackpot book!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/energy-processes-in-fuel-free-
electromagnetic-generators
$25USD RAISED OF $5,000 GOAL

Or a gravity crackpot book!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/why-gravity-sucks-physics-for-the-masses
$45USD RAISED OF $12,000 GOAL

Help this guy use my cold-fusion apparatus to power a car!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fusion-powered-car-part-2
$894USD RAISED OF $19,640 GOAL

Help some high-school kids start up a cold-fusion lab!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-halo-fusion-project
$100USD RAISED OF $8,250 GOAL

There's lots more, too lazy to link:

"I had begun researching fundamental physics for 2 years now. So far, I've made over 4 discoveries and about a dozen hypothesis or postulates. I want you guys to donate to me today, so that a better quality the theory would be. Thank you." $0CAD RAISED OF $80,250 GOAL

Test space engine on 0 Gravity: $5USD RAISED OF $36,000 GOAL

Mechanical Anti-gravity Propulsion: $0USD RAISED OF $2,343,750 GOAL

Alternative energy from gravity: $0USD RAISED OF $250,000 GOAL

Gravity based Electricity Generator - Free Power: $0USD RAISED OF $200,000 GOAL
 
ben m said:
Help this guy use my cold-fusion apparatus to power a car!
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(Too late to edit, but that should read "his" cold-fusion apparatus. My cold fusion apparatus escaped from its humble coffee-making duties and is now melting its way towards the Earth's Core, with Hilary Swank, James Mason, and Jar-Jar Binks in hot pursuit.)
 
Kickstarter is plagued with these scams too. There are four I found in a quick search:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/622720924/quantum-energy-generator-los-angeles
Quantum Energy generator using technology invented by Tesla over a hundred years ago, but suppressed by the evil ones running the world!


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/416167696/perpetual-energy?ref=discovery
Perpetual motion machine with no details given. At all.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/549443631/gravgen-gravity-powered-generators?ref=discovery
Perpetual motion machine using gravity because... that hasn't been thought of before. More talk of evil people out to steal their technology. But at least this one has a patent pending (which will get denied because the patent office tends to not award patents to perpetual motion devices).


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/57616998/green-drive-1-16-size-modell?ref=discovery
Another perpetual motion device, this time to power your car indefinitely! Little modification needed! Again, no details given due to the evil people out there who will steal their ideas. You just have to trust them that this will work.


I reported all these to Kickstarter last week and am sad to see they are still up. Kickstarter states they don't allow scams, and they seem to be a little more strict than Indiegogo in that funds only get transferred if 100% of the goal is met. These four examples clearly will never hit their goals.
 
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foophil said:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/57616998/green-drive-1-16-size-modell?ref=discovery
Another perpetual motion device, this time to power your car indefinitely! Little modification needed! Again, no details given due to the evil people out there who will steal their ideas. You just have to trust them that this will work.
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Wow, that's delusional even by perpetual-motion-inventor standards. I thought that your average garage-magnet-machine tinkerer was at least aware, as a baseline, that people are skeptical of perpetual motion and that this is a bias they needed to argue their way past.
 
I keep thinking this thread is about a small, hybrid car manufactured by Ford...
 
OK, an update on Focus Fusion; Since I did send $10 to their kickstarter, I get their updates.

Work is progressing. They have acquired the ultra-pure Be and after acceptance testing will be machining the electrodes. They are still refining their techniques with the W electrodes and have developed some methods of limiting the W electrode destruction which they are now testing.

Here is their newsletter;

http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=87935f5eb37481cdcd48cf498&id=6244c17431&e=c2628ac2f8
 
BenBurch said:
OK, an update on Focus Fusion; Since I did send $10 to their kickstarter, I get their updates.

Work is progressing. They have acquired the ultra-pure Be and after acceptance testing will be machining the electrodes. They are still refining their techniques with the W electrodes and have developed some methods of limiting the W electrode destruction which they are now testing.

Here is their newsletter;

http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=87935f5eb37481cdcd48cf498&id=6244c17431&e=c2628ac2f8
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The newsletter ticks ALL the boxes labeled "scam".
The cylinders, weighing together 35 kg, are to be machined over the next five months into two anodes and a cathode for experiments in the second half of 2016. They were fabricated from 97.8% pure beryllium at the Ulba Metallurgical Plant in Kazakhstan ... The purchase of the beryllium was made possible by money that LPPFusion raised in an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign in 2014. However, Focus Fusion still needs contributions. The Focus Fusion Society, in cooperation with LPPFusion, Inc. is making a set of new videos explaining the physics behind Focus Fusion. Everyone can help fund these videos (and be credited in them if you donate $75 or more) with a tax-deductible donation to Focus Fusion Society. Please do it here.​
 
While there is a healthy skepticism re perpetual motion there is the ever present greed and belief that some individual in a garage will do the impossible. The mother's milk of scamsters.
 
BenBurch said:
Fusion is not perpetual motion. Fusion has an energy source.
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"Fusion", like "perpetual motion" and "zero-point energy" is a common scam legend.

It's pretty clear, with beryllium from Kazhakstan and contributions solicited to sponsor videos, that this is an example of a typical form of energy scam.
 
Craig B said:
"Fusion", like "perpetual motion" and "zero-point energy" is a common scam legend.

It's pretty clear, with beryllium from Kazhakstan and contributions solicited to sponsor videos, that this is an example of a typical form of energy scam.
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We shall see. There would have been no reason to go ahead and buy the Be if they had intended a scam. They could have simply found an "error" in their equations and declare a hiatus to go off and research that.
 
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