Flynt for gov?

[arcticpenguin]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall_flynt

Now that Arnold seems likely to drop out of the California gubernatorial race:

LOS ANGELES - Porn king Larry Flynt wants to rule California.

The Hustler magazine publisher has filed initial paperwork to run in the gubernatorial recall election and says he may spend a large amount of his own money if people take his candidacy seriously.

 

[Grammatron]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall_flynt

Now that Arnold seems likely to drop out of the California gubernatorial race:

At first glance it's kind of funny. However, Flynt has been a champion of First Amendment rights for quite some time now (even though it was in his self interest). Heck, if Republicans can argue that a business man like Issa can run a state, then surely a successful business man -- who is also handicapped -- like Flynt can do wonders with the state.

 

[arcticpenguin]

Or maybe his motive is more complex.

The Dems are worried that there will be low turnout in favor of Davis, while those wishing to replace him would turn out in numbers. Perhaps sufficient numbers of Democrats could be mustered to make sure that Flynt did not win.

Remember how he got involved when the Republicans were impeaching Clinton?

 

[arcticpenguin]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...30802/en_nm/politics_california_bedfellows_dc

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Porn king Larry Flynt says slot machines would resolve California's budget crisis. Porn star Mary Carey says it is smarter to tax breast implants.

Hollywood billboard queen Angelyne has adopted the slogan "Think rational pink," whatever that means.

Dozens of other eclectic, eccentric extras have also taken out nomination papers to run in the October recall election for California governor, adding farce, folly and fantasy to deadly serious political combat
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"We are becoming a laughing stock. This just exacerbates the impression that we are a bunch of wackos out here," Art Torres, California Democratic party chairman, told Reuters.
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A Schwarzenegger departure would delight the likes of Georgy Russell, a 26-year-old computer programmer, who is campaigning for a clean energy policy and selling thong underwear on her Web Site; Art Brown who is promoting a short film; and Michael Jackson (news) and Bill Murray (news) who are promoting the fact that they have the names of famous people.
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ANGELYNE SAYS THINK PINK, PORN STAR SAYS THINK BLONDE

Among the more intriguing serious prospects is a potential face-off between gay, former Republican congressman Michael Huffington, who has filed papers, and his ex-wife, columnist Arianna Huffington, who is being pressed to run.
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California does not get much more frivolous than Angelyne, a Hollywood icon and wannabe singer, actress, dancer and performer, who has been a household name for 10 years by virtue of plastering her curves on city billboards and once writing a screenplay called "The Bra That Ate L.A."
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"My slogan is 'think rational pink.' We've had enough gray and brown and we need pink now and that's me.
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Porn star Mary Carey says something similar, "We've had Brown, we've tried Gray. Now it is time for some blonde."

Remember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans.

 

[Pyrrho]

Hey, if Jim Traficant can run for President...

 

[pgwenthold]

Re: Re: Flynt for gov?

At first glance it's kind of funny. However, Flynt has been a champion of First Amendment rights for quite some time now (even though it was in his self interest). Heck, if Republicans can argue that a business man like Issa can run a state, then surely a successful business man -- who is also handicapped -- like Flynt can do wonders with the state.

Unfortunately, his plan to save the state is to open more casinos. I'm not a fan of that policy.

Of course, I gotta say that no one else has really provided a plan for recovering, either.

 

[kerfer]

[BRemember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans. [/B]

You're oversimplifying this at least a little.

I think you meant to say that this special election was brought to you by the California Constitution, and over a million registered voters of the State of California, who signed petitions.

Yes, it was funded significantly by a Rebublican (Issa, who I doubt will win), but there's a lot more to it than you say.

I have not spoken to a single person who cannot wait for Governor Clouseau to be gone.

 

[arcticpenguin]

I think you meant to say that this special election was brought to you by the California Constitution, and over a million registered voters of the State of California, who signed petitions.

Yes, it was funded significantly by a Rebublican (Issa, who I doubt will win), but there's a lot more to it than you say.

I have not spoken to a single person who cannot wait for Governor Clouseau to be gone.

If you want to control both sides of the conversation, go into your bathroom and talk to the mirror. Otherwise don't try to put words in my mouth.

Perhaps your coarse manners and why no one will speak to you and you do not hear alternate points of view.

 

[RC]

I have not spoken to a single person who cannot wait for Governor Clouseau to be gone.

You're speaking to one now. I don't like Gray Davis any more than anyone else, but the recall is a joke and a mess.

We had an election less than a year ago. I voted for the Green, but I accept the results. Absolutely nothing has happened between November and now to justify this expensive and ridiculous recall. Davis has done nothing criminal or egregious.

Now we have this ridiculous free-for-all that brings in people like Larry Flynt and Henry Tanenbaum, the gay gardening guy from the local TV station. They aren't remotely qualified for the job and the fact that they can be on the ballot so easily demonstrates the absurdity of the recall law in California.

This recall election has nothing to do with democracy. The percentage of people who signed the petitions isn't remotely high enough to justify it. The voter turnout will be low, and the ballot will be confusing. I still know people who don't realize that they can choose a candidate if they vote NO on the recall.

I will vote NO out of basic principle. My chance to get rid of Davis was through the fair and honest process of a regular election. I lost, and that means I should get him for 4 years unless there are extremely serious reasons to vote him out.

 

[Troll]

If you want to control both sides of the conversation, go into your bathroom and talk to the mirror. Otherwise don't try to put words in my mouth.

Perhaps your coarse manners and why no one will speak to you and you do not hear alternate points of view.

Do you two have some history? Because from what I saw you did say what he said you said, and he did say that this was a result of the california constitution and it allowing for this recall. And there is the fact that they got enough signatures to abide by california's constitution to accomplish this.

 

[Troll]

You're speaking to one now. I don't like Gray Davis any more than anyone else, but the recall is a joke and a mess.

We had an election less than a year ago. I voted for the Green, but I accept the results. Absolutely nothing has happened between November and now to justify this expensive and ridiculous recall. Davis has done nothing criminal or egregious.

Now we have this ridiculous free-for-all that brings in people like Larry Flynt and Henry Tanenbaum, the gay gardening guy from the local TV station. They aren't remotely qualified for the job and the fact that they can be on the ballot so easily demonstrates the absurdity of the recall law in California.

This recall election has nothing to do with democracy. The percentage of people who signed the petitions isn't remotely high enough to justify it. The voter turnout will be low, and the ballot will be confusing. I still know people who don't realize that they can choose a candidate if they vote NO on the recall.

I will vote NO out of basic principle. My chance to get rid of Davis was through the fair and honest process of a regular election. I lost, and that means I should get him for 4 years unless there are extremely serious reasons to vote him out.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but can you name something Davis did accomplish that is to the benefit of Californians? Perhaps they felt he had enough time to do something and in their eyes hasn't done it yet. And I lived in california from 1983 until 2000

 

[RC]

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but can you name something Davis did accomplish that is to the benefit of Californians? Perhaps they felt he had enough time to do something and in their eyes hasn't done it yet. And I lived in california from 1983 until 2000

Troll, I almost don't even want to answer the question because in a way I find it irrelevant. The time to say "Gray Davis has done nothing for Californians" was November of last year. He won that election. In my opinion, a recall should be in response to something criminal or completely egregious, not "we gave you another 6 months and you failed".

Now, it creeps me out a bit to defend Davis because I really don't like him. I'm a Democrat true and true and I voted against him last year. I would have voted for Riordan if he had made it to the general, but I went with the Green.

I guess your question is what did Davis do to benefit all Californians. Very little is my answer. But he did sign domestic partner legislation and he has provided adequate funding for AIDS programs. Both of these are very important to me.

 

[RC]

Troll, just to add a little more, people didn't even wait until the end of the budget and legislative season before putting this recall on the ballot. I think the recall rules need to be changed significantly and should at least say that one year has to pass after the general election.

People are bringing up all kinds of crap to justify the recall. They are mad at Davis' proposed budget and things like automobile fees. Well, the responsible way to deal with that is to advocate with your legislators to defeat the proposals you don't like. You don't just sign a recall petition the minute the governor submits a proposal you don't like.

 

[arcticpenguin]

Do you two have some history? Because from what I saw you did say what he said you said,

Your post makes no sense. By talking about what I "meant" to say, he was clearly trying to put words in my mouth. I said what I said, not what he said I "meant to say".

I think you meant to say

I have no prior history with kerfer, but that doesn't mean I will tolerate his acting like an as_.

 

[Troll]

Your post makes no sense. By talking about what I "meant" to say, he was clearly trying to put words in my mouth. I said what I said, not what he said I "meant to say".


I have no prior history with kerfer, but that doesn't mean I will tolerate his acting like an as_.

No it does make sense. I asked a question and gave you what is out there as fact.

Are you blaming republicans alone for the recall vote? Maybe that's a more simplified version of what he asked, but when I read what he asked, I did in fact read what you wrote as a reason for him to ask such a question.

So please answer that. Answer my question if not his. Are you saying that it is because of republicans that Davis is up for a recall vote and not because of his own actions or inactions? I'd have never asked thisif you had not said " Remember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans."

I thought it was brought about thanks to the people of California. You're current comments seem to imply that you feel that a democrat that voted for the guy would not be against him now at this time. I'm just asking for some clarification of your remarks

 

[Troll]

Troll, just to add a little more, people didn't even wait until the end of the budget and legislative season before putting this recall on the ballot. I think the recall rules need to be changed significantly and should at least say that one year has to pass after the general election.

People are bringing up all kinds of crap to justify the recall. They are mad at Davis' proposed budget and things like automobile fees. Well, the responsible way to deal with that is to advocate with your legislators to defeat the proposals you don't like. You don't just sign a recall petition the minute the governor submits a proposal you don't like.

I won't deny that I feel that what you suggested is the higher road to take. But a recall is allowed and apparently enough people thought it a good idea. Do we listen to the people or do we play prop 187 all over again? I was a Californian that went for 187. I was a pissed off Californian when it got overturned

 

[Yahweh]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall_flynt

Now that Arnold seems likely to drop out of the California gubernatorial race:

Unfortunately, I think Mr. Flynt will recieve some negative criticism for running for candidacy.

When most people see Flynt, they dont see him as political figure. Why cant people just look past the wheelchair and physical handicap and see him for the person he really is?

"California is the most progressive state in the union," said Flynt, 61. "I don't think anyone here will have a problem with a smut peddler as governor."

Uhhh... on second thought, it might be slightly more beneficial if we all ignore the person Flynt really is.

 

[arcticpenguin]

No it does make sense. I asked a question and gave you what is out there as fact.

Are you blaming republicans alone for the recall vote? Maybe that's a more simplified version of what he asked, but when I read what he asked, I did in fact read what you wrote as a reason for him to ask such a question.

So please answer that. Answer my question if not his. Are you saying that it is because of republicans that Davis is up for a recall vote and not because of his own actions or inactions? I'd have never asked thisif you had not said " Remember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans."

I thought it was brought about thanks to the people of California. You're current comments seem to imply that you feel that a democrat that voted for the guy would not be against him now at this time. I'm just asking for some clarification of your remarks

And I am asking you and kerfer to restrict yourself to making your own remarks, not trying to put remarks in my mouth. Is that simple enough?

 

[Troll]

And I am asking you and kerfer to restrict yourself to making your own remarks, not trying to put remarks in my mouth. Is that simple enough?

Dude, I haven't put any words in your mouth.

You said " Remember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans.""

I asked a question about that comment. I asked if you are saying something with that comment, not accusing you of having done so.

 

[arcticpenguin]

Dude, I haven't put any words in your mouth.

You said " Remember, this special election was brought to you by Republicans.""

I asked a question about that comment. I asked if you are saying something with that comment, not accusing you of having done so.

kerfer tried to put words in my mouth. You asked me about that, not about the special election issue, in your first post on this thread. That is what irks me; not the political issue, but kerfer's lack of manners in assigning his opinion to me. If you continue to try to confuse the two issues, I will assume your are living up to your user name.