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Floods in Germany, Belgium & the Netherlands

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So, we are at the height of summer in Europe, which of course, also means summer storms. Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands have seen some particularly severe flooding as a result.

The death toll from catastrophic floods in western Germany and Belgium has risen to more than 150, local authorities have said, as emergency services continued their search for hundreds still missing.

Authorities in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate said on Saturday morning that 93 people had died there, including at least 12 residents of an assisted living facility for people with disabilities, while neighbouring North Rhine-Westphalia put the death toll at 43.

Officials warned the figures could rise further. About 1,300 people in the Ahrweiler district of Rhineland-Palatinate remain unaccounted for, although efforts to contact them were being hindered by damage to phone networks.

Experts said the European Flood Awareness System (EFAS) issued an extreme flood warning earlier this week and questioned why the toll was so high. Hannah Cloke, a hydrologist, told Politico the disaster was “a monumental failure of the system”.

The German weather service DWD said it had passed on the warning to local authorities, who should have been responsible for organising any necessary evacuations. The interior minister, Horst Seehofer, said Germany “must prepare much better” in future, adding that “this is a consequence of climate change”.
GUARDIAN

Of course, the third world has always suffered from natural disasters but now that it hits Europe the mass media takes full notice.
 
'Mutti' visits the disaster zone:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been pictured arriving to a village left devastated by this week's biblical floods - which have now claimed more than 180 lives across Germany and Belgium and are expected to leave billions of euros worth of damages.

Ms Merkel's visit to Schuld, situated on a curve of the river Ahr in the Ahrweiler district, west Germany, comes after President Frank-Walter Steinmeier went to the area on Saturday and made clear that it will need long-term support.

Finance Minister Olaf Scholz said he will propose a package of immediate aid at a Cabinet meeting on Wednesday, telling the Bild am Sonntag newspaper that more than 300 million euros (£257m) will be needed.

But he added that officials must start setting up a rebuilding programme, which would likely cost billions of euros.

The death toll from flooding in Western Europe climbed above 180 on Sunday after rescue workers dug deeper into debris left by receding waters.
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I'm not sure what the point of the OP was.
Should European media not report on disasters in Europe? Should European leaders NOT visit areas of their country hit by a disaster?

I know these things also happen in other countries because I read about it in the mass media, so even that comment seems very odd.
 
I'm not sure what the point of the OP was.
Should European media not report on disasters in Europe? Should European leaders NOT visit areas of their country hit by a disaster?

I know these things also happen in other countries because I read about it in the mass media, so even that comment seems very odd.

Well, I see that the flooding does not show up on the splash page of the Hindustan Times, but does show up on the BBCNews splash page. No mention of the flooding on the CNN splashpage either.

I mean, that's of right now, a few days after the worst of the storms. And results would vary anyway depending upon the origin of the IP address and cookies and such. But still.

It's almost as if the OP conflates European news outlets with the world news.
 
So, we are at the height of summer in Europe, which of course, also means summer storms. Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands have seen some particularly severe flooding as a result.

What's happened in the general area centered between the NRW and Benelux isn't even remotely on the same scale as a regular summer storm. The last time the area was hit by that much water was in WW1 (see why they had to come up with tracked vehicles), and even then not in such a short time. We're talking about outright torrents that dug ravines, including under houses and highways, and in relatively flat-ish areas too, not down some mountain.

So, uh, yeah, the media reports on a totally unusual local phenomenon. That's kinda what they're supposed to do, innit? I'm not sure what should they cover if not that.
 
It's in the news in 'Troit, and we've had flooding of our own. (Wayne County is a recognized disaster area. Good thing nobody's throwing paper towels.) I kinda think that when the old cities of Europe turn into lakes, everybody notices.
 
Well, I'm not trying to minimize the US problems, mind you. Just saying there's really no higher meaning to any media reporting either. It's just what the media is supposed to do.
 
Normally in the UK press, one rarely sees references to weather conditions and hazards or crimes outside of the UK unless they are egregious, amusing or there is a high death toll. So this getting headline news struck me as novel (= very serious).
 
Also, the flooding has been mentioned in US media.


Yep, I see it everyday on CNNs site. Not much coverage though. Then again, look at this thread. Not much coverage here either.

I'll have to do a search for the OPs threads covering third world disasters so I can compare ;)
 
Normally in the UK press, one rarely sees references to weather conditions and hazards or crimes outside of the UK unless they are egregious, amusing or there is a high death toll. So this getting headline news struck me as novel (= very serious).

And in this case it's truly egregious. We're talking something that hasn't happened in the area in more than a century, at the very least.

In fact, historically speaking, the last time I can remember where we have written records about a comparable flash-flood is during Marcus Aurelius's campaign in Germania. And even then it passed for a frikken miracle. In fact, it's probably the only miracle claimed by both the pagans (including the otherwise rational philosopher emperor) AND the Christians.

So yeah, if the press doesn't report something that may (or may not) be a 1 in 2000 years event, what should it report? :p
 
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The point of the OP appears to me to bemoan the OP's belief in the callousness of the UK press to disasters in the third world.

Whether that belief is justified, I'm not going to bother to check, but I'm fairly sure I've seen plenty of reports in the UK press when flooding/mudslides/hurricanes etc. have occurred in the third world.
 
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The point of the OP appears to me to bemoan the OP's belief in the callousness of the UK press to disasters in the third world.

Whether that belief is justified, I'm not going to bother to check, but I'm fairly sure I've seen plenty of reports in the UK press when flooding/mudslides/hurricanes etc. have occurred in the third world.

There is. To claim otherwise is nonsensical.
 
Not sure what is the difference between the two, but I'm sure for example that BBC kept reporting for a whole month when a similar number of deaths in a flood had happened in India in 1919: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-49311458

And again when there were 50 deaths next year: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53415254

And again in 2021: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-55970750

And that's just me picking a random country and looking on bbc.com for it. (Not implying in any way that it's a third world country. Just the first that came to mind when I looked at my coworkers:p)


Frankly, if you were that convinced that there was no news about that kinda thing, it says more that YOU couldn't give a flip to get informed about that kinda thing, not that BBC didn't report it.
 
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Here's the sun reporting on a fire in Iran.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15149664/explosion-iran-oil-refinery-hours-fire-sinks-largest-warship/

The mirror reporting on a fire in Banglasdesh:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/factory-owner-arrested-murder-after-24505782

The Telegraph on flooding in Africa:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...-a-lifetime-floods-wreak-havoc-across-africa/

The Daily Mail on flooding in Senegal:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/r...enegal-expose-big-gap-1-4-bln-flood-plan.html

I mean I could go on and on and on. The links above were just grabbed at random.
 

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