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Flight 93

TC329 said:
You can't have the plane come over Indian Lake and then rely on fraudulent FDR data to assess any aspect about it. Pure and simple. If the plane came over the lake ... then the data is false.
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Which aspect(s) of the FDR data do you believe is false? Presumably the magnetic heading? How certain are you that such data is reliable given the nature of the crash? On what basis do you claim such certainty?
 
What would Dom do with out his technique of using the lowest most unreliable form of evidence to dismiss and make absurd assumptions about the most reliable forms of evidence?

The fact that he claims that the witnesses thinking they know the direction of the planes travel simply by the sound shows right there that Dom is a fraud. This isn't much different than the CIT crap about the people thinking the plane was on the north side (or whatever nonsense).

Dom,. go read up on the properties of sound, and then come talk. This isn't a cartoon where everything happens the way it is seen. If you hear a sound coming from the left, it doesn't mean that's where the source of the sound is. And it doesn't mean that the events causing the sound are happening at that same moment.

Heck, go watch someone bounce a basketball from about 1/8th a mile away. The sound will not line up with the ball hitting the ground. And the lower the frequencies involved (like the low frequencies generated by jet engines) the less directional they will be. So if someone is in their house and they think they hear a sound traveling from north to south, that sound could just as easily be from a source going south to north.


Again, this is NOT the cartoons, this is reality we're talking about.
 
Oh and this notion of "Heylet's have the plane fly in one direction, but then fake FDR data showing it in the completely opposite direction" is about as stupid as it gets logic wise. Not to mention that absolutely none of this proves any kind of inside job or whatever con job is being pushed here.

Still waiting on TC to give us the complete story of what happened that day based on his conclusions. Or is TC another "No claimer"?
 
Grizzly Bear said:
As much as it pains me to corroborate UC, something like that wouldn't have been unusual in Hurricane Andrew, Homestead was devastated and there are numerous stories similar to his. I was 5 when it hit here and I remember it very well.
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Please don't feel a need to "pain" yourself on my account.. I don't need to be patronized...


Grizzly Bear said:
However,
Knowing how stretched my memories are of hurricane Andrew it only corroborates the unreliability of eye witness accounts and why in the face of hundreds of corroborating witnesses, 10 witnesses isn't the best way to make a point in UC's case...
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The biggest difference between your memory and mine is the fact that you were 5 and I was 29. Your biggest worry was probably worrying whether your superman under-roos were going to be safe or not, while mine was worrying about whether my newborn at James Archer Smith was safe or not....
 
Unchained Spirit said:
The biggest difference between your memory and mine is the fact that you were 5 and I was 29.
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Oh, how I wish I could remember those small details my 7-year old seems to have no trouble doing!

Unchained Spirit said:
Your biggest worry was probably worrying whether your superman under-roos were going to be safe or not, while mine was worrying about whether my newborn at James Archer Smith was safe or not....
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So you were similarly preoccupied in thought, right?
 
and we are getting it back on topic. you know, to stop the derail. so please, do you have anything to state on flight 93?
 
TC329 said:
LOL!!!

When airplanes crash the sound of them flying doesn't continue for miles. Especially if they were at a low altitude. You pathetically cling to anything you think might offer an explanation that supports Bush's handpicked Commission's claims.
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Did you ever get this cleared up? If you need help you could ask for it.

Flight 77 was visible on the horizon from Indian Lake on 9/11. But too small except for me or Chuck Yeager to see. But I doubt the sound would travel over 80 miles. (yes 77) (trees could have blocked the view)

Oops the lake is in a hollow. This mean the sound from Flight 93 was reflected off the hills to the south east, to the people at the lake! Darn, sound is really bad for use as evidence. And even worse is your ignoring the witnesses who confirm the FDR. But you are not looking to confirm but your own false ideas. Please do not get mad because you do not understand the sound; you get up set and just say you are right because you say your are; based solely on flawed interpretation of witness statements.
 
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Southwind17 said:
Oh, how I wish I could remember those small details my 7-year old seems to have no trouble doing!
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Yes, that's now... but ask your 7 year old in 15 years, when s/he is 22 and see how clear those details are.



Southwind17 said:
So you were similarly preoccupied in thought, right?
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Once things started getting bad, my focus shifted on my own safety & survival. I knew the hospital had backup generators and was more well built than the motel I was in.
 
Jonnyclueless said:
The fact that he claims that the witnesses thinking they know the direction of the planes travel simply by the sound shows right there that Dom is a fraud.
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Yes because if you blindfold 100 people and drive a car or fly a plane by them there is no way they are going to correctly identify from which way the sound approached.

Your whole argument that the entire race is retarded fails miserably.......
 
Jonnyclueless said:
Oh and this notion of "Heylet's have the plane fly in one direction, but then fake FDR data showing it in the completely opposite direction" is about as stupid as it gets logic wise. Not to mention that absolutely none of this proves any kind of inside job or whatever con job is being pushed here.

Still waiting on TC to give us the complete story of what happened that day based on his conclusions. Or is TC another "No claimer"?
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Again your inability to think critically shows why you don't get the importance of Flight 93 turning around.
 
TC, are you jsut going for the stundie Olympics here? If you fly a plane by someone that is a couple miles away while they are blindfolded, then the anwer is NO. They will not be able to accurately place the location of the plane. And by the time they hear it from a few miles away, the effects of electricity will have occurred long before they heard it.

Go study elementry school physics if you are not sure about this.

And again, please oh please educate us and explain exactly what happened with flight 93. This is the 6th time I have asked you.
 
Jonnyclueless said:
TC, are you jsut going for the stundie Olympics here? If you fly a plane by someone that is a couple miles away while they are blindfolded, then the anwer is NO. They will not be able to accurately place the location of the plane. And by the time they hear it from a few miles away, the effects of electricity will have occurred long before they heard it.

Go study elementry school physics if you are not sure about this.

And again, please oh please educate us and explain exactly what happened with flight 93. This is the 6th time I have asked you.
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the plane wasn't miles away it was over top of them. jesus christ.......
 
what part of it is fake. provide evidence that it is.

gee dom you dont think much do you
 
TC329 said:
the plane wasn't miles away it was over top of them. jesus christ.......
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Hello? Have you been reading this thread??? Are we on the same planet? My lord you are one of the most confused people. It really must be absolutely exhausting walking around with that huge brain of yours.
 
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