Flight 77 flight path

[mudlark]

Mudlark... Explain this guy... Tim Timmerman (a pilot).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzBmgsjC6Nc

Before I forget (kinda bogged down here) nobody knew that Hugh "Tim" Timmerman was really Dawn Vignola's roomate on 9/11 until Dawn Vignola told this to CIT firsthand. You can actually hear Timmerman coaching Vignola what to say during this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2iFhTYX5s

Vignola let CIT into her apartment to document their POV. While Timmerman claimed it was AA Vignola claimed the plane was "white". If you don't believe them, call Vignola yourself and prove them wrong.

She's listed.

 

[mudlark]

Have you ever called Craig and Aldo to task, assuming you are not Craig or Aldo, on the threats and name calling they direct towards people they disagree with?

Threats? No.
Name calling? Follow this thread from I joined the debate. Lots of uncalled for name calling going on here.

 

[Edx]

Hey mud, you didnt answer anyones questions didn you?

 

[dtugg]

Anybody find it amazing how much mud knows about the CITiots?

 

[Edx]

You can actually hear Timmerman coaching Vignola what to say during this interview:

I listened, that is what you're calling coaching?

I hear people talk like that all the time when people are on the phone. For christs sakes, Ive done that before! It doesnt mean Im feeding them information!

And if he had been, again, why are these shills so damn stupid to make it so damn obvious!

Apparently you must believe in the genius idiots conspiracy theory.

 

[mudlark]

So don't be afraid to tell us what you think happened with AA77's flight path.

Did AA77 hit the Pentagon?
Did AA77 fly over the Pentagon?

Just give us your reasons and evidence for one or the other.

Given the NOC testimony? I would have to say the plane could NOT have hit the Pentagon. It doesn´t matter what I ´think´ on the matter.
If it couldn´t hit where did it go?
Have you looked at Roosevelt Roberts, Eric Dihle, Maria de la Cerda, the 404ed Statter witnesses, Dewitt Roseborough and a Mr Gurba interviewed live on ABC that morning?
Have we ever heard the sequestered 911 calls surrounding the Arlington area?

Given the failure to debunk NOC serious questions arose for me. Coupled with the above witnesses there is definitely a case to answer.

 

[Baylor]

I´m trying to discern how NOC coupled with an impact are physically possible.

How are they not physically possible. The plane hit the pentagon.

See...

 

[Edx]

Have you looked at Roosevelt Roberts.

omg srlsy?

 

[dtugg]

there is definitely a case to answer.

Not to sane people.

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Edited to remove personal remarks.

 

[mudlark]

I listened, that is what you're calling coaching?

I hear people talk like that all the time when people are on the phone. For christs sakes, Ive done that before! It doesnt mean Im feeding them information!

And if he had been, again, why are these shills so damn stupid to make it so damn obvious!

Apparently you must believe in the genius idiots conspiracy theory.

She repeated him word for word for God sake! Lol.
I´d call that coaching.
No one, certainly not me has accused anybody of being a shill.
I question whether he was capable or not of describing what he publically stated regarding the flight with the view that he had from his appartment.
Dawn Vignola had the same view. He put the words in her mouth during that interview.
It doesn´t necessarily follow that I´m pointing a finger at her or his honesty. Just the situation.

 

[TexasJack]

Anybody find it amazing how much mud knows about the CITiots?

Yep, taking it right out of the CIT playbook. This is rather hilarious, but typical, truther M.O. Start off posting a few inane posts, claiming to only want to ask a few legitimate, questions, then bring on an onslaught of garbage.

 

[mudlark]

Anybody find it amazing how much mud knows about the CITiots?

I´ve studied their findings. What is your point?

 

[stewieg]

Threats? No.
Name calling? Follow this thread from I joined the debate. Lots of uncalled for name calling going on here.

Then why hav'nt you taken them to task about the threats they make? Seems to be much more serious than name calling.

 

[BigAl]

Anybody find it amazing how much mud knows about the CITiots?

And how little he knows of the entire set of eyewitnesses and all the physical evidence.

 

[mudlark]

Yep, taking it right out of the CIT playbook. This is rather hilarious, but typical, truther M.O. Start off posting a few inane posts, claiming to only want to ask a few legitimate, questions, then bring on an onslaught of garbage.

´garbage´ that noone here has debunked yet.
Insults and no rebuttals.

 

[dtugg]

I´ve studied their findings. What is your point?

Edited by LibraryLady: 

Edited for civility

If you want to report someone for being a sockpuppet, please do so. Do not accuse people of being sockpuppets in threads. Thank you.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[Baylor]

´garbage´ that noone here has debunked yet.
Insults and no rebuttals.

CIT claims the plane flew over the pentagon
The plane did not fly over the pentagon

See

Debunked.

 

[dtugg]

´garbage´ that noone here has debunked yet.
Insults and no rebuttals.

All of witnesses (including CITiot's) say the plane hit the Pentagon. 100% of the physical evidence points to the plane hitting the Pentagon on the "official" path.

There. Debunked. That was easy.

 

[Edx]

She repeated him word for word for God sake! Lol.
I´d call that coaching.

Yep, seen that as well.

I worked in a call centre for 2 years and this has personally happened to me several times. This sounds perfectly normal to me.

No one, certainly not me has accused anybody of being a shill.

Lies!

You said Timmerman is lying because he couldnt see the plane hit then he was "coaching" Vignola on what to say.

Why was he lying Mudlark?

You sound exactly like Cartman in this episode of South Park.

I question whether he was capable or not of describing what he publically stated regarding the flight with the view that he had from his appartment.

You have not demonstrated he couldnt see nor have you demonstrated that he was coaching anyone.

Dawn Vignola had the same view. He put the words in her mouth during that interview.

In no way does it sound like that at all, once again you call him a shill and a liar.

It doesn´t necessarily follow that I´m pointing a finger at her or his honesty. Just the situation.

I do not directly say shes a slut... you didnt read the rest, dude! ..."or does she?"...See thats a question, Im asking questions Stan!

Yes you have as much sense and honesty as Cartman, and he isnt even real.

 

[mudlark]

How are they not physically possible. The plane hit the pentagon.

See...

Again?
Grainy low quality videos are weak.
Any videos released have the same theme. Guess where the plane is from horrible, obscured angles that leave more questions than answers.
Weak.