Let's not forget the eyewitnesses to the debris, smell of jet fuel, bodies still in their seats, etc. They don't count because they aren't on the approved list of the CIT cult leaders.
Again, the undocumented debris.
I´ve always wondered when these ´bodies´ (plural?) were found exactly, and their exact whereabouts.
http://arlingtonfirejournal.blogspot.com/2005/03/attack-on-pentagon-sept-11-2001.html
Reaching the seat of the fire proved difficult. The heat was intense and the flames violent. Jet fuel is a blend of kerosene and gasoline, and Flight 77 was fully laden for the coast-to-coast flight.
Firefighters launched an exterior attack, using ladder pipes, airport crash tenders – all their big guns. They also attempted an interior attack. ``It was back breaking work carrying hose across that debris,’’ said Captain Scott McKay, who supervised interior fire fighting efforts. ``We were passing by some pretty good fires that on any other day would have been a major job to get to the big fire.’’
About 30 minutes after the crash, five floors gave way - COLLAPSE! ``It pancaked,’’ said Arlington Battalion Chief Jim Bonzano.
Gibbs led a crew of Fort Myer and Arlington County firefighters inside with a hose line. Considering the crack in the building, and seeing the firefighters were making little progress against the flames, Gibbs decided there was no need to place the firefighters' lives in jeopardy - and ordered them out. Within five minutes, ``there was a snap. Then you could hear it cascading down,'' Gibbs said.
The first firefighters allegedly arrived at @09:45, at what time did they enter?
We know they pulled out 5 minutes before the collapse having been beaten back by the flames according to Gibbs´quote.
But it was actually 15 minutes before the collapse:
9:55 - Incident commander orders evacuation of impacted areas (9/11 Commission Report, p315).
we received an order to evacuate the area because of reports that another jet was coming up the Potomac.
Then the numerous evacuations took place during that and the following day.
On Sept. 11 and in the days following, Pentagon police ordered firefighters - fearful of another attack - to evacuate when aircraft neared the crash site.
The fire, itself, wouldn’t die.
After the initial inferno was knocked down on Sept. 11, firefighters contended with flames and hot spots at the Pentagon, fed by jet fuel and mountains of rubble. ``It’s just stubborn, very difficult to get to and very difficult to extinguish,’’ said Plaugher, quoted by New York Newsday.
So the firemen you quoted must have seen the sights you describe after the collapse.
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf
A study of the locations of fatalities also yields insight into the
breakup of the aircraft and, therefore, its influence on the structure.
The remains of most of the passengers on the aircraft were
found near the end of the travel of the aircraft debris.... By contrast,
the remains of a few individuals (the hijacking suspects), who
most likely were near the front of the aircraft, were found relatively
close to the aircraft’s point of impact with the building.
These data suggest that the front of the aircraft disintegrated
essentially upon impact but, in the process, opened up a hole
allowing the trailing portions of the fuselage to pass into the
building
This report claims that the columns along the path of ´impact´ were
exposed to high temperatures, including ´C´Ring where the majority of bodies were ´found´ where the HIGHEST temperatures were recorded over a longer period.
There were bodies admittedly found to the left and right of this ´path´ but..
Several structural elements in bays adjacent to the path of
aircraft impact in the first floor did not sustain damage by
impact. Rather, the damage to these elements was due to fire
exposure. Because the structural elements in the Pentagon are
believed to have had additional fire protection provided by the
interior finishes—while the laboratory columns were fully
exposed—and because the rate of temperature rise in the actual
fire is believed to be greater than that prescribed by ISO 834,
the comparison is not exact. However, it should provide an
indication of the lower bound of the temperature at some locations
in the Pentagon.
This coincides with an
ambient temperature of about 1,740°F (950°C).
Where in the building were these bodies allegedly found?
When were they found?
I´m in no way saying that these people are liars. Just that testimonies
become polluted and altered by the time they reach us.
That all testimonies must be questioned.
That is why it is so important to verify testimony especially in the circumstances described above.
Timeout guys. Back in a bit.
