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Flight 175 plane speed challenged

ZENSMACK89 said:
I guess you didn't read the question.

How do you know better?
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Because my claims are factually accurate and the claims of your so-called experts are factually false.

The FAA and US DoD regulations relating to emergency operations and hijacking are publicly available and very clearly laid out. The intercept records for NORAD are also very well documented.

We have the written and spoken testimonies of individuals intimately involved in NORAD's operations at the time of the 9/11 Attacks. One of the posters on this forum was the Military Liason at Boston ARTCC on the actual day of 9/11. The pilots of NORAD's fighters scrambled on 9/11, and the staff at NEADS have been interviewed and quoted on the record. Senior military staff have publicly provided information on NORAD's activities prior to 9/11, on 9/11, and after 9/11.

Against all of this, you have the unsupported and false assertions of a few old pilots, none of whom were working ARTCC on 9/11, and none of whom have ever worked with NORAD.

Their testimony is less than worthless.

-Gumboot
 
ZENSMACK89 said:
This thread isn't about 800 it's about 175. Where's your evidence?
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No no no, don't try to back out of this one. You sites flight 800 as an example. So now back it up. Show us proof that it was reconstructed.

We have given you the evidence. Several 100 times. So please now show us yours. If you can't back it up, you shouldn't have been the one to bring it up.
 
gumboot said:
Because my claims are factually accurate and the claims of your so-called experts are factually false.

The FAA and US DoD regulations relating to emergency operations and hijacking are publicly available and very clearly laid out. The intercept records for NORAD are also very well documented.

We have the written and spoken testimonies of individuals intimately involved in NORAD's operations at the time of the 9/11 Attacks. One of the posters on this forum was the Military Liason at Boston ARTCC on the actual day of 9/11. The pilots of NORAD's fighters scrambled on 9/11, and the staff at NEADS have been interviewed and quoted on the record. Senior military staff have publicly provided information on NORAD's activities prior to 9/11, on 9/11, and after 9/11.

Against all of this, you have the unsupported and false assertions of a few old pilots, none of whom were working ARTCC on 9/11, and none of whom have ever worked with NORAD.

Their testimony is less than worthless.

-Gumboot
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If their expert opinions http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html are worthless then yours are even more worthless.
 
Jonnyclueless said:
No no no, don't try to back out of this one. You sites flight 800 as an example. So now back it up. Show us proof that it was reconstructed.

We have given you the evidence. Several 100 times. So please now show us yours. If you can't back it up, you shouldn't have been the one to bring it up.
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You're the one who needs to backup and read. I didn't offer 800 up as anything. Someone else brought it up and asked me and I proved there is way more on 800 then there is on 175.
 
No fancy flying by the terrorist, and no signs of experience from 9/11 truth

ZENSMACK89 said:
For flight 175 alone there is no black box meaning no flight data and no voice data, a changing transponder code, no one with the experience or skill to fly the plane the way it is claimed, not one serially controlled part of the plane offered up as identification, and supposedly only 12 victim remains identified out of 65 but you have a pristine passport of one of the hijackers of the other plane conveniently found in the rubble of two fallen skyscrapers.

These are your facts?
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The fact is flight 175 was going 590 mph, it is on record, video. So your speed challenge is faulty, as in wrong. The speed is a fact, it is confirmed by sight, you can take frames and time the aircraft speed. It is also confirmed by the energy released.

The pilots actually trained to fly, they had FAA licenses, they trained. I put kids in a simulator, who had never flown, they were able to fly jets into buildings with no training. The terrorist wasted time learning to fly, kids without training can fly better.

There is not a fancy flying thing done on 9/11. That is a fact. Please present facts next time! Pushing up the throttles is easy, flying into buildings is way too simple. Please come up with some facts before you try to support the lies of 9/11 truth.

Pristine Passport. Oh my, you have never been at an aircraft accident! I have. Even in massive energy events of aircraft hitting at high speed like 9/11, we have things that survive in better shape than the passports. Why are the drones of 9/11 truth unable to find a single fact or real idea about what happen on 9/11?

past 500 posts and still no fact from 9/11 truth,,, why?
 
ZENSMACK89 said:
If their expert opinions http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html are worthless then yours are even more worthless.
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A few mentally challenged pilots when it comes to 9/11 issues, who have zero facts? Experts? Prove just one of their ideas. Please tell me what you have. Start with some facts. Just one. Not a fact from any of these so called experts, but they are just nuts and dolts on 9/11 stuff.

But maybe you missed the facts these guys have no facts. Which pilot has a fact about 9/11?

So far you have failed to find a pilot in 9/11 truth who has a fact. Why is that?
 
ZENSMACK89 said:
That's not known for sure with a changing code and a screen full of planes.
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They tape the radar stuff. Darn, they know for sure. You should study this stuff more, you could lean not to make big errors in logic and learn how to avoid the lies of 9/11 truth. You should learn more and study stuff.

There are hundreds of ways to confirm flight 175 hit the WTC, why does the truth movement miss all of them and then ask real dumb questions?
 
beachnut said:
The fact is flight 175 was going 590 mph, it is on record, video. So your speed challenge is faulty, as in wrong. The speed is a fact, it is confirmed by sight, you can take frames and time the aircraft speed. It is also confirmed by the energy released.
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Video doesn't identify the plane. It's Boeing that disputes the speed in the OP. Did you listen to it?

beachnut said:
The pilots actually trained to fly, they had FAA licenses, they trained. I put kids in a simulator, who had never flown, they were able to fly jets into buildings with no training. The terrorist wasted time learning to fly, kids without training can fly better.
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You mean the ones with the stolen identification? Apparently Ghosts can fly better too.

beachnut said:
There is not a fancy flying thing done on 9/11. That is a fact. Please present facts next time! Pushing up the throttles is easy, flying into buildings is way too simple. Please come up with some facts before you try to support the lies of 9/11 truth.
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Controlling the plane at that speed is according to Boeing. But I guess you know better. This site is full of people who think they know better then the experts.

beachnut said:
Pristine Passport. Oh my, you have never been at an aircraft accident! I have. Even in massive energy events of aircraft hitting at high speed like 9/11, we have things that survive in better shape than the passports. Why are the drones of 9/11 truth unable to find a single fact or real idea about what happen on 9/11?
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Why are you not able to point to the identification of flight 175?
 
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ZENSMACK89 said:
The phone calls in the OP weren't made to me they were made to Boeing. They are the ones who claim the plane couldn't go as fast as the official CT claims. To you listen to them?
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Who are "they"? What are their qualifications? And why do you give these folks more credit for truthfulness and/or accuracy than the many knowledgeable folks who have posted in this thread?

Oh, by the way, have you booked your flight instruction classes yet? Have you done any checking around to see if you can get some sim time? Then you'd be able to answer many of your questions with first-hand experience...
 
gumboot said:
One of the reason for having two pilots is so they can take turns on a long-haul flight (and for critical moments such as take off and landing). While in cruise at altitude, a pilot does little more than keep an eye on gauges and talk to ARTCC.
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I can attest to this fact personally. Back in the early 1980s I got to fly up front in the cockpit on several flights using the jump seat (the benefits of having a father who worked for the airline). Granted, this was on 737s and not 757s or 767s, but nevertheless the situation was as gumboot described.

It was a great treat to be able to ride up front like that; it's not something that'd be allowed anymore.
 
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ZENSMACK89 said:
Video doesn't identify the plane. It's Boeing that disputes the speed in the OP. Did you listen to it?
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No, it isn't "Boeing" that disputes the speed. Yes, I listened to it. Stop being disingenuous.


ZENSMACK89 said:
Controlling the plane at that speed is according to Boeing. But I guess you know better. This site is full of people who think they know better then the experts.
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No, it is not "according to Boeing" and yes, there are people here who know better than the non-expert you are citing. Again, stop being disingenuous. You are not fooling anyone here.

ZENSMACK89 said:
Why are you not able to point to the identification of flight 175?
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The evidence that it was Flight 175 is beyond dispute, and has been presented here repeatedly. The fact that you wilfully choose to ignore reality is solely your problem.
 
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