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Flat earthers

Craig4 said:
The vast majority of them just have to be, or just get into being contrarian. The intellectual deficient required to believe this would be almost crippling.
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Most of the ones I have encountered in FB and Twitter are fundy Christians who interpret "firmament" literally, from their favorite translation of the Bible. Their own wall posts for the FB ones often reinforce their public posts.
 
Blue Mountain said:
And as I mentioned before, how well does that explain eclipses? Transits of Mercury? Phases of Venus?
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There you go again with these illusions. ;)

I think it's pretty clear this is a woo medalist for absurdity. I couldn't believe there even existed such a Society, but here we are!
 
Craig4 said:
The vast majority of them just have to be, or just get into being contrarian. The intellectual deficient required to believe this would be almost crippling.
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:biggrin: I agree. And yet it doesn't appear every "theoretical idiot" who supports the absurdity is that deficient. Heck their website is better than many and a lot better than many more. I'm sure you've seen that Time Cube clown's website? He was truly intellectually deficient.

AlaskaBushPilot said:
There you go again with these illusions. :wink:

I think it's pretty clear this is a woo medalist for absurdity. I couldn't believe there even existed such a Society, but here we are!
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Crystal clear and that's somehow the key to it. I've heard comedians say a fascination with the absurd has been their singular motivation. Steve Martin has said it in interviews before and I've heard others use the word to describe the underlying basis of their job including Seth MacFarlane. Could the utter absurdity of a present-day "belief" in a flat earth be the reason it's a desirable cause for some otherwise mostly normal knucklehead? Shaq?
 
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HarryHenderson said:
I'm sure you've seen that Time Cube clown's website? He was truly intellectually deficient.
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Thanks, I'm still laughing even though I knew the site. Time Cube is a standard for all time, I think.

My impression was that the guy was off his rocker of course. But now, years later, I guess I have to wonder if he's an Andy Kaufman, putting us on. I'm leaning towards bonkers.
 
HarryHenderson said:
:biggrin: I agree. And yet it doesn't appear every "theoretical idiot" who supports the absurdity is that deficient. Heck their website is better than many and a lot better than many more. I'm sure you've seen that [URL="http://timecube.2enp.com/"]Time Cube[/URL] clown's website? He was truly intellectually deficient.
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Wow. You owe me some ibuprofen, I got a headache reading that.
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
Thanks, I'm still laughing even though I knew the site. Time Cube is a standard for all time, I think.

My impression was that the guy was off his rocker of course. But now, years later, I guess I have to wonder if he's an Andy Kaufman, putting us on. I'm leaning towards bonkers.
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TheGoldcountry said:
Wow. You owe me some ibuprofen, I got a headache reading that.
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:biggrin: That guy was beyond nuts. Dropped on his head as a baby?

"...The ONEist educated with their flawed 1 eye
perspective (opposite eyes overlay) Cyclops
mentality, inflicts static non pulsating logos
as a fictitious queer same sex transformation..."

I seriously doubt he made any money off TimeCube™, but I bet he cleaned up as the Internet's preferred random word generator.
 
Here's a map of the supposed flat earth. Given that it's flat, there should be no distortion, so sizes and distances should be proportionally correct:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/617nAsDfXNL.jpg

It looks like the distance from coast to coast in Australia is about twice the distance from coast to coast in the US.

But, the distance from Perth to Brisbane, which is close to the east-west axis of Australia, is 3606 km. Don't believe it? Ask a friend to take the flight, or ask one of the many many people who have taken that flight how long it takes.
https://www.distancecalculator.net/from-perth-to-brisbane
Maybe airplanes actually can travel much faster than "they" say. Okay, drive on the roads. Or ask a friend who has. The driving distance is 4312 km.

The distance from Seattle to New York, which again seems to be pretty much the east-west axis, is 3870 km by air and 4589 km by car.

Not only is Australia not twice as long from one side to the other as the US, it's actually shorter. Any flat earther can actually go and test this himself if he wants to uncover the conspiracy.
 
Delvo said:
Wait... I thought "false flag" meant one entity doing something while posing as another entity to direct the blame at that other entity... but the only specific thing you said in there other than "false flag" was a "never happened"... are you saying "false flag" means "never happened", or mixing references to two separate kinds of theory?
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Dont blame me, I was just describing what they claim, trying to make sense of it only gives you a headache...

Some claim that the various events simply didnt happen at all, its all just made up media stories, others claim they `happened' but there were no real victims, they were all `crisis actors', yet others usually claim that the event happened with real victims, but the perp/perps weren't the ones that actually did it/ were controlled while doing by mind control/hypnosis/microwaves/alternate personas by the cia/aliens/illuminati/reptilians...

ya takes ya pick
 
Roboramma said:
Here's a map of the supposed flat earth. Given that it's flat, there should be no distortion, so sizes and distances should be proportionally correct:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/617nAsDfXNL.jpg

It looks like the distance from coast to coast in Australia is about twice the distance from coast to coast in the US.

But, the distance from Perth to Brisbane, which is close to the east-west axis of Australia, is 3606 km. Don't believe it? Ask a friend to take the flight, or ask one of the many many people who have taken that flight how long it takes.
https://www.distancecalculator.net/from-perth-to-brisbane
Maybe airplanes actually can travel much faster than "they" say. Okay, drive on the roads. Or ask a friend who has. The driving distance is 4312 km.

The distance from Seattle to New York, which again seems to be pretty much the east-west axis, is 3870 km by air and 4589 km by car.

Not only is Australia not twice as long from one side to the other as the US, it's actually shorter. Any flat earther can actually go and test this himself if he wants to uncover the conspiracy.
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Yes , my discussion with the few flat earther always goes like this:
so earth is a disk /ellipsoide or similar ?
[flat earther] yes a disk with the north pole as center
so travelling 45° north lattitude from east to west should be much shorter than travelling 45° south... How comes this is not the case ? The travel has been done by airplane and ship.
[flat earther] .... (waffle about conspiracy or never answer)....
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
Take a look at the day/night cycle on the Flat Earth Society Frequently Asked Questions page:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

It's really important that the sun is orbiting above the flat earth but with a flashlight beam that only shines on part of the earth at any point in time. Look at the diagram there with the moving sun and it will show what they claim. The sun is vastly closer to earth in this theory.

The orbit of the sun is wider in the winter of the northern hemisphere. It is narrower in the summer of the northern hemisphere. That does explain the seasons if you have a sun that shines like a flashlight, has vastly less energy output, and tastes like cotton candy.

Someone above asked who was holding the flashlight in the sky, and that's essentially asking what forces are at work causing the sun to orbit the flat earth. Why would the sun orbit above earth?
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(sorry, late reply)

The flashlight explanation does not fit simple observation:

We can SEE the sun rising above the horizon, coming gradually into view as a disk. This disk moves across the sky, not changing in size and sinks below the horizon, still as a disk.

This is true no matter where we are on Earth, but the time shifts. How can the "flashlight sun" rise across the horizon at one time in one place and at another time in another place?

How can the "flashlight sun" travel across the skies at a low altitude without changing apparent size?

Hans
 
What I love most about flat-earthism is that for almost everyone, almost all of the time, there is literally no functional advantage from believing in a round Earth. Technically it's round, but for all practical purposes? It might as well be flat.
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
Here again you are using illusions to support ball earth. :p
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Ya. Like the illusion that I can show the sun at the horizon at the same time as it is at Zenith in some other place. Flat Earthers, calculate the distance of the sun from a flat Earth from that information.

Hans :p :sdl:
 
theprestige said:
What I love most about flat-earthism is that for almost everyone, almost all of the time, there is literally no functional advantage from believing in a round Earth. Technically it's round, but for all practical purposes? It might as well be flat.
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It's a convenient operational shortcut, to treat the surface of the planet as though it were a Euclidian flat surface. It only works because it's so big. But that's all it is - a fiction to make things like distances easier to calculate.

Flat Earthers take their local, parochial view and - without acknowledging that all it is is an operational shortcut - assume that it applies to the entire planet.
 
arthwollipot said:
It's a convenient operational shortcut, to treat the surface of the planet as though it were a Euclidian flat surface. It only works because it's so big. But that's all it is - a fiction to make things like distances easier to calculate.

Flat Earthers take their local, parochial view and - without acknowledging that all it is is an operational shortcut - assume that it applies to the entire planet.
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Don't know if this true for all flat Earthers. Flat Earthers do not think Earth is a planet, really.
 
arthwollipot said:
It's a convenient operational shortcut, to treat the surface of the planet as though it were a Euclidian flat surface.
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It's not an operational short cut, though. For almost all of human history, it's been a practical reality. Even today for almost everyone, almost all of the time, it's still a practical reality.

When people treat the earth as flat, they're not taking a "shortcut". They're operating in the most natural, intuitive way. And it's effective, too.

Very few people in the history of mankind have ever been in a position where they were required to add any operational complexity to the equation. And even they could dispense with the complexity, almost all of the time.
 
theprestige said:
It's not an operational short cut, though. For almost all of human history, it's been a practical reality. Even today for almost everyone, almost all of the time, it's still a practical reality.

When people treat the earth as flat, they're not taking a "shortcut". They're operating in the most natural, intuitive way. And it's effective, too.

Very few people in the history of mankind have ever been in a position where they were required to add any operational complexity to the equation. And even they could dispense with the complexity, almost all of the time.
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Did you perhaps miss the part where I was agreeing with you? It's okay, I had trouble with it as well.
 
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