Flat Earth Internation Conference 2017!!!

[Daniel]

Explain pressure gradients.

For the 128,765 Time!! ...

Begging The Question/Red Herring Fallacy:

How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...."TO BEGIN WITH" ?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html


Ya see, before you can appeal to "VARYING" Gas Pressure you MUST ANSWER where we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with.

Is there something particularly confusing about this ^^^^^ ??


regards

 

[Elagabalus]

...Actually one of the photos in your link clearly shows that. (Again, actually do check your links.)

Hans

Yes, with all due respect to Phil Plait that was not the best example.

 

[Daniel]

No, seriously. Why is it that when I'm say, Virginia or Florida, I can't see the Southern Cross but when I fly to South Africa and/or Botswana I can?

It's similar to the Phenomenon of watching a Plane fly over your head in Missouri but somebody in Chicago won't be able to see it.

On the. Topic of Sea Sparrows, you know there's a standard computation for terrain masking by curvature of the earth right? We used to have a template to draw on the chart but now the computers just figure it out for you.

Yes, I personally use...

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=30&h0=10&unit=imperial

and

https://www.metabunk.org/curve/


regards

 

[MikeG]

........Ya see, before you can appeal to "VARYING" Gas Pressure you MUST ANSWER where we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with.

Is there something particularly confusing about this ^^^^^ ??....

Yes. It confuses me no end how anyone can waste our time with such a gormless question.

Atmospheric pressure varies with altitude. Explain that, or deny it.

 

[Elagabalus]

It's similar to the Phenomenon of watching a Plane fly over your head in Missouri but somebody in Chicago won't be able to see it...

Because of the Earth's curvature?


What do I win?!!

 

[MRC_Hans]

What on Earth sir?





So missiles can't sink ships, eh? So they make Anti-Ship Missiles for what purpose...just to piss the enemy off?? lol

Sea Sparrow missiles can't sink ships. They have a 40kg warhead. ... you can read, right?

The didn't have "WHAT" 2500 years ago?

Formal experiment protocols.

For what?

To show whether Earth is flat or round.

There's nothing to solve...you had no point.

I can understand you must duck this challenge. It is easy to solve, but explaining the result would be unpleasant for you.

I don't care how big it is. The "Alleged' Distance (93 Million Miles) is the compelling factor in the matter.

You should care how big it is. I have challenged you to find out, but you refused.

ps. I read all my References in depth.

Then I can only conclude that you have a reading comprehension problem. Otherwise you would have noticed that the Sea Sparrow is an anti missile weapon and its warhead is not effective against ships of any considerable size.

Hans

 

[halleyscomet]

It's similar to the Phenomenon of watching a Plane fly over your head in Missouri but somebody in Chicago won't be able to see it.

If I wasn't already convinced you're just trolling I'd be amused that you used a phenomena caused by the curvature of the Earth to argue against the curvature of the Earth. As it is, I offer a thumbs up on your trolling style. Simple and uninspired, yet, based upon the ongoing replies, effective.

 

[Elagabalus]

... Ya see, before you can appeal to "VARYING" Gas Pressure you MUST ANSWER where we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with.

Is there something particularly confusing about this ^^^^^ ??


regards

Yes! Can you expound a little more on your theory of how "we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with."

So far you seem to imply that there must be a container of some kind (although I'm not sure). Is the Star Dome the container?

 

[halleyscomet]

For the 128,765 Time!! ...

Begging The Question/Red Herring Fallacy:

How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...."TO BEGIN WITH" ?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html


Ya see, before you can appeal to "VARYING" Gas Pressure you MUST ANSWER where we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with.

Is there something particularly confusing about this ^^^^^ ??


regards

In other words, you can't explain why air pressure varies with altitude. Thank you for your clarification.

 

[MRC_Hans]

For the 128,765 Time!! ...

Begging The Question/Red Herring Fallacy:

How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...."TO BEGIN WITH" ?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html


Ya see, before you can appeal to "VARYING" Gas Pressure you MUST ANSWER where we got GAS PRESSURE to begin with.

Is there something particularly confusing about this ^^^^^ ??


regards

Gas pressure can vary without a container. Explain how.

Hans

 

[The Man]

"The ESSM ANTI-SHIP MISSILE is powered by a high performance Mk 134 Mod 0 rocket motor dual-propellant propulsion system that develops high thrust. The motor can operate in temperatures ranging between -14°F to 133°F.
The propulsion system provides the missile with a speed of over Mach 4 and A RANGE OF MORE THAN 50km."
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/

And, are SHIPS in the Air?? lol

Please at least read your own citations.

ESSM (RIM 162) offers naval combatants reliable self-defence and high fire-power. The missile can be launched from surface ships to destroy threats that include high speed, highly manoeuvring anti-ship cruise missiles, low velocity air threats (LVATs), high-diving threats and surface-based targets. It can also engage attack aircraft, helicopters and ships.

 

[Daniel]

Sea Sparrow missiles can't sink ships. They have a 40kg warhead. ... you can read, right?

So ANTI-SHIP Missiles can't sink ships. Good to Know

Formal experiment protocols.

So then I suppose... there was no Experiment then?

To show whether Earth is flat or round.

Newsflash: There is no EXPERIMENT to show whether the Earth is Flat/Sphere or any other shape; it's outside the purview of The Scientific Method.
Of course, if you had even the faintest clue of what The Scientific Method was you wouldn't have just Trainwrecked yourself. Good Job

I can understand you must duck this challenge. It is easy to solve, but explaining the result would be unpleasant for you.

There is no challenge... there is no point. Because if there was a point, you would have already shown it in lieu of babbling on about nothing.

You should care how big it is.

Actually, I really don't.

Then I can only conclude that you have a reading comprehension problem.
Otherwise you would have noticed that the Sea Sparrow is an anti missile weapon

So you charge me with Reading Comprehension Issues by stating the NATO Sea Sparrow is ONLY an Anti-Missile Weapon, when ...

"ESSM (RIM 162) offers naval combatants reliable self-defence and high fire-power. The missile can be launched from surface ships to destroy threats that include high speed, highly maneuvering anti-ship cruise missiles, low velocity air threats (LVATs), high-diving threats and SURFACE-BASED TARGETS. It can also engage attack aircraft, helicopters and SHIPS."
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/

"The ESSM ANTI-SHIP MISSILE is powered by a high performance Mk 134 Mod 0 rocket motor dual-propellant propulsion system that develops high thrust. The motor can operate in temperatures ranging between -14°F to 133°F.
The propulsion system provides the missile with a speed of over Mach 4 and A RANGE OF MORE THAN 50km."
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/



Your claim is tantamount to Pol Pot charging the Dalai Lama with Genocide.


regards

 

[Daniel]

In other words, you can't explain why air pressure varies with altitude. Thank you for your clarification.

I can take a shot at the Begging The Question/Red Herring Fallacy, After you Respond to MY ACTUAL ARGUMENT...


How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...."TO BEGIN WITH" ?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchemb...0pressure.html


regards

 

[Shalamar]

The Earth, the planet we live on (well, some of us at least) is an Oblate Spheroid.

 

[DGM]

I'll help you with your hilite.........

So you charge me with Reading Comprehension Issues by stating the NATO Sea Sparrow is ONLY an Anti-Missile Weapon, when ...

"ESSM (RIM 162) offers naval combatants reliable self-defence and high fire-power. The missile can be launched from surface ships to destroy threats that include high speed, highly maneuvering anti-ship cruise missiles, low velocity air threats, high-diving threats (LVATs) and SURFACE-BASED TARGETS. It can also engage attack aircraft, helicopters and SHIPS."
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/

"The ESSM ANTI-SHIP MISSILE is powered by a high performance Mk 134 Mod 0 rocket motor dual-propellant propulsion system that develops high thrust. The motor can operate in temperatures ranging between -14°F to 133°F.
The propulsion system provides the missile with a speed of over Mach 4 and A RANGE OF MORE THAN 50km."
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/






regards

 

[MRC_Hans]

So ANTI-SHIP Missiles can't sink ships. Good to Know

I'm sure they can't. In the case of the Sea Sparrow (40kg warhead) just only quite small ships.

So then I suppose... there was no Experiment then?

There was the observation that the sin is seen at different angles at different latitudes. The experiment did not prove Earth was round, because you might have triangulated some distance to the sun from it. Problem is, a three-point triangulation does not resolve into a single point.

THIS is the problem you have.

Newsflash: There is no EXPERIMENT to show whether the Earth is Flat/Sphere or any other shape; it's outside the purview of The Scientific Method.

Total nonsense. The scientific method easily shows that Earth is a rotating sphere orbiting the sun.

To find out, try to solve the challenge I have given you.

Hans

 

[halleyscomet]

Newsflash: There is no EXPERIMENT to show whether the Earth is Flat/Sphere or any other shape; it's outside the purview of The Scientific Method.
Of course, if you had even the faintest clue of what The Scientific Method was you wouldn't have just Trainwrecked yourself. Good Job

Dude, you too the act too far. If testing the shape of the Earth is beyond the scope of science, why would you bother even HAVING an argument where you try to cite science?

 

[Elagabalus]

...So ANTI-SHIP Missiles can't sink ships. Good to Know

Pssssst. Loose Lips, Sink Ships ...

...Newsflash: There is no EXPERIMENT to show whether the Earth is Flat/Sphere or any other shape; it's outside the purview of The Scientific Method....

Why do the solar eclipses listed here:https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/list.html have such strange paths of totality on your flat Earth?

 

[HSienzant]

Ahem, Daniel?

Well, try standing on a chair. Now take one step to the side.

What happened when you stepped off the chair?

I stepped onto the floor. What's next, a query on what happens when I turn a doorknob?

So why not the ceiling or one of the walls? Did you just arbitrarily choose the floor?

See above.

 

[Arisia]

If I wasn't already convinced you're just trolling I'd be amused that you used a phenomena caused by the curvature of the Earth to argue against the curvature of the Earth. As it is, I offer a thumbs up on your trolling style. Simple and uninspired, yet, based upon the ongoing replies, effective.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winnah!