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Merged "Firefighters" for 9-11 Truth

1. As we have said before, there are nutbars and fringe in every profession or field. Why would firefighting, or policing, or paramedics be any different. I know my profession has them.

2. I think we should poll Zeus, Yaweh, Buddha, and Allah, and ask them if they believe 9/11 was an inside job. We could then form "Gods for 9/11 truth".

TAM;)
 
Strange person. He switched from fire fighting to real estate. Money, maybe?

I wonder how seriously he took fire fighting. It isn't a profession, its a life style choice. Something just doesn't smell right about him.

C`mon lefty, give the guy a break . He has thirty years service, you got 4-8.
Also, arent you a jack of all trades too?
Fireman, cook and also a pretty fine poet, from what i`m told.So please dont disrespect someone you dont even know that has two decades more experience. Lets get real.
 
Tweeter said:
So please dont disrespect someone you dont even know that has two decades more experience. Lets get real.
Asking a Jrefling to respect 9/11 skeptics? C'mon Tweeter, get real.
 
Since Erik Lawyer clearly wasnt at GZ during the collapses and is clearly misinformed about the state of the buildings prior to the collapse, his opinion is about as relevant as yours, Lone Bedouin.

Not very relevant.

Maybe he should have asked his fellow firefighters in the FDNY who were actually on the ground on 9/11 about the state of the buildings before making such crass assertions.
 
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Heres his statement on AE911truth site.

Did Seattle send crew to GZ?
He doesnt mention being part of a recovery team.
Was he on a sightseeing trip?

A team from Seattle did go to NYC to join recovery efforts, along with a large team of search dogs.
 
Originally Posted by Tweeter:
So please dont disrespect someone you dont even know that has two decades more experience. Lets get real.
Originally posted by TLB:
Asking a Jrefling to respect 9/11 skeptics? C'mon Tweeter, get real.

So from now on I will expect NOTHING BUT RESPECT to come from both of your mouths with regards to the NIST scientists and engineers who have many, many more years experience than both of you...right?

****ING hypocrites.

TAM
 
Oh wait, you're grasping. We (PFT) talked to the site founder; it's a real
firefighter site my friend.

Your words:
I don't know, and what does it matter? It's a new site and it's just
getting some exposure now. The member forum hasn't even been created yet.

Whether the signature names are real, or not...well, who really knows?


You claim it's real after admitting to actually not knowing if it's real. You'll forgive me if I find your word a little less than trustworthy.

The names on the petition with references to Fire station, city, etc. are likely
real however by your standards, it's not proven :rolleyes:

Yes, "facts" and "evidence". What kind of crazy person needs those to prove something? What I should do is take the word of a Truther who can't even manage to keep his story straight within the space of a single post.

Therefore I say, wait for the forum and member list to appear when the site
expands (Est. Sept. 1/08)

Actually, no you don't. You're already here promoting the site before its authenticity has been verified. Had you chosen to take your own advice perhaps you could have spared yourself a little embarrassment.
 
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My question is, why do they allow sooo many non-firefighters to join the site? Don't they realize that it greatly diminishes the relevance of the title of the group?

I mean, its like naming a group "Senators for 9-11 Truth" and having 99 high school kids plus Barbara Boxer as the members.

But, alas, truthers are stupid, so of course they just don't get it...and probably never will.
 
My question is, why do they allow sooo many non-firefighters to join the site? Don't they realize that it greatly diminishes the relevance of the title of the group?

Amongb their intended demographic, it works. They are not aiming for the brightest, but the most easily aroused audineces.

It is the same tactic as Alan Miller uses on PQ911. Hide the turds under a couple of truffles and try to sell the whole bucket as truffles.
 
Strange person. He switched from fire fighting to real estate. Money, maybe?

I wonder how seriously he took fire fighting. It isn't a profession, its a life style choice. Something just doesn't smell right about him.



And let me guess what that is Lefty, he smells the rotten story you cling to, and seem unable to get a whiff of.



Maybe he had kids growing up, maybe it was money, maybe a physical limitation, who knows, people change professions for all kinds of reasons.


I changed professions because i got tired of wearing a pager and putting out system down fires for Wang Labs back in the day for 20 bucks an hour.

Not to mention if i never hear" Are you here to get my Wang up" again, it will be fine with me..lol
 
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And let me guess what that is Lefty, he smells the rotten story you cling to, and seem unable to get a whiff of.



Maybe he had kids growing up, maybe it was money, maybe a physical limitation, who knows, people change professions for all kinds of reasons.

Why do suppose this particular "firefighter" has chosen to expose the truth why every single member of the FDNY, an organization which you accuse of being cowards, has chosen to remain silent?
 
Firefighters have incompetents too.
And attention seekers.

I saw a video of some hillbilly firedepartment starting a drill by walking up to an old wooden building and throwing a flare through a window.
They had apparently first poured gasoline out inside and waited for most of it to evaporate.
 
Heres his statement on AE911truth site.

Did Seattle send crew to GZ?
He doesnt mention being part of a recovery team.
Was he on a sightseeing trip?

I was working in downtown Seattle during the Nisqually earthquake. It was such a minor event there was not a single casualty. The idea that this would somehow make you an authority on building collapses is silly.
 
I was working in downtown Seattle during the Nisqually earthquake. It was such a minor event there was not a single casualty. The idea that this would somehow make you an authority on building collapses is silly.

I was in downtown San Francisco during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. Several unreinforced masonry buildings had their facades collapse and a section of the double-decker Nimitz freeway in Oakland collapsed. That did make me an authority on staying the hell away from brick buildings and double-decker freeways in an earthquake.

Maybe that's what he meant? :boggled:
 
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I'd like to see evidence that these folks are real firefighters. Volys dont count in my book.
 
Volys responded at Shanksville.

Pennsylvania site of 9/11 crash gets WTC beam

BY STEPHANIE GASKELL
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, August 24th 2008, 10:45 PM
Srakocic/AP

A cross made of a beam from the World Trade Center now stands on a base shaped like the Pentagon outside the firehouse in Shanksville, Pa.

A cross made of steel from the World Trade Center and mounted atop a platform shaped like the Pentagon now stands outside the Shanksville, Pa., firehouse - forever linking the tragic events of 9/11.
Hundreds of firefighters riding motorcycles escorted the beam from New York to Shanksville, where hijacked Flight 93 crashed into a field, killing all 40 people on board.
"We wanted to find a home for this steel," said Paddy Concannon, who retired from the FDNY shortly before the World Trade Center attacks but spent countless hours digging through the rubble for survivors.
"This is an effort on our part to tie the three events together: The World Trade Center, the Pentagon and Shanksville," he said.
More than 2,750 people were killed when two hijacked planes crashed into the twin towers. Another plane crashed into the Pentagon, killing 184 people.
The 2-ton, 14-foot beam, which was pulled from the rubble of the north tower, was driven 300 miles from Brooklyn's Floyd Bennett Field to the Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co.
"I couldn't have dreamed this would turn out any better, all the brotherhood coming down from New York and New Jersey and showing up here to pay their respects," said Shanksville Fire Chief Terry Shaffer.
Shaffer said his firefighters will be reminded of the heroic acts performed that day every time they pass by the cross.
Investigators believe the hijackers crashed the plane in Shanksville, a rural town about 65 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, as passengers rushed the cockpit in a courageous effort to keep them from slamming the plane into the Capitol.
Shanksville's volunteer firefighters rushed to the crash scene to search for survivors.
"They're Smalltown USA, but they have the biggest hearts," said Rich Snyder, a retired FDNY firefighter from Ladder 20 who helped organize the ride.
He said nearly a thousand people attended the dedication ceremony - even though the entire population of Shanksville is only about 300. The name of each victim was read aloud as everyone bowed their heads in prayer.
Snyder urged people to visit the Pennsylvania town and pay respects to the victims of the crash - and urged those who live there to carry on a part of the legacy of the worst terrorist attack on American soil.
"As New Yorkers, we have to remember that 9/11 affected people across the country," he said.
The cross is not part of an official $58 million Flight 93 National Memorial being built at the site of the crash.
sgaskell@nydailynews.com

 
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Strange person. He switched from fire fighting to real estate. Money, maybe?

I wonder how seriously he took fire fighting. It isn't a profession, its a life style choice. Something just doesn't smell right about him.

I was just a part of a discussion about second jobs. Someone said that here in NYC, firemen work 24-on 48-off, or something like that and that real estate was mentioned as a popular second job.
 

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