Firefighters do not like the truth movement....

16.5 said:
He is now going on and on about Quintiere apparently unaware that he thinks 911 truthers are completely wrong.
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What the? Am I reading this right... he's saying the guy is unaware of what he thinks? :eye-poppi
 
Yowch. It's like the Charge of the Sock Brigade in there. You notice how a couple of the Seattle truthy 'firefighters' end all their diatribes with the last couple paragraphs in bold?

Methinks it's one person. They're all armed with the same information. Which makes me think, is there some sort of master text grimoire loaded with bullet-pointed 'facts' supporting the truther's cause? That would get tiresome typing all that out. It's gotta be some enormous 1.2MB text file just full of the bunk.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
Yowch. It's like the Charge of the Sock Brigade in there. You notice how a couple of the Seattle truthy 'firefighters' end all their diatribes with the last couple paragraphs in bold?

Methinks it's one person. They're all armed with the same information. Which makes me think, is there some sort of master text grimoire loaded with bullet-pointed 'facts' supporting the truther's cause? That would get tiresome typing all that out. It's gotta be some enormous 1.2MB text file just full of the bunk.
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Truthers would be nothing if not for the copy/paste feature of computers.
 
It also makes me never want to own any property in Seattle. If it burned down, they'd spend three weeks having Richard Gage look for explosives.
 
The monumental beatdown going on over there is ceaselessly entertaining. :D

I would like to echo the sentiment that that thread never be taken down to stand as a stark reminder of just how far removed from reality Truthers really are.

I for one will be linking to it every single time one of our neighborhood kooks so much as hints at a topic even remotely related to the FDNY. And I predict we will see an end to a such topics being broached by the Truthers here as their rampant intellectual cowardice forces them to avoid anything that might challenge their dogma.
 
I just hurt myself. I fell off the chair laughing. This friggin' moron is lecturing ME about NFPA 921. ME!

You may not be hear to name call and insult, but I am. You are a loser, pal. I challenge you to walk into anyf firehouse in NYC and spew this nonsense. Just make sure that you leave good info as to what you want done with your remains (not a threat, but a prediction).

And, just so I fit into your little model, here...I was standing with several hundred other fire fighters outside Manhattan Community College when 7 fell. I watched it, heard it, smelled it and saw it fall. You are 100% completely, totally positvely wrong on every single count.
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That really is an excellent thread. Maybe Red-"the firefighters just accepted the official explanation because it sounded plausible"-Ibis would like to register at that forum and ask them some questions.
 
johnny karate said:
The monumental beatdown going on over there is ceaselessly entertaining. :D
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Indeed! In response to koolaid boy lecturing the firefighters on boxboys numbers:

I was not going to waste my time responding to any more of this crap, but I saw this and could not resist.

I am a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). ASCE has a worldwide membership of about 146,000. In my experience, about 1/3 of the engineers I have met in my 18 year career belong to ASCE. So, for the sake of argument, let’s assume there are 438,000 civil engineers in the world that would be eligible for ASCE membership (a low number).

The American Institute of Architects has a membership of about 86,000. I don't really know if their membership percentage is more or less then with ASCE, but, for the sake of argument, we will put their number at 2x their membership, 172,000.

That makes a total of 610,000 design professionals that do or would be eligible to belong to one of these organizations.

You are basing your BS on the opinion of less then 1/10 of 1% of the design professionals in the world.

And you are going to lecture me that you are right and I am wrong?

Not by a long shot there skippy.
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Captain, ACVFD
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I was not going to waste my time responding to any more of this crap, but I saw this and could not resist.

I am a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). ASCE has a worldwide membership of about 146,000. In my experience, about 1/3 of the engineers I have met in my 18 year career belong to ASCE. So, for the sake of argument, let’s assume there are 438,000 civil engineers in the world that would be eligible for ASCE membership (a low number).

The American Institute of Architects has a membership of about 86,000. I don't really know if their membership percentage is more or less then with ASCE, but, for the sake of argument, we will put their number at 2x their membership, 172,000.

That makes a total of 610,000 design professionals that do or would be eligible to belong to one of these organizations.

You are basing your BS on the opinion of less then 1/10 of 1% of the design professionals in the world.

And you are going to lecture me that you are right and I am wrong?

Not by a long shot there skippy.
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Thomas Anthony, PE
Structures Specialist PA-TF1
Captain, ACVFD



Kindly point me to the poll that shows that every ACSE member has voted Anti truth ?

Link please???


The largest group i know of that has taken an official stance one way or the other is AE911
 
roundhead said:
Kindly point me to the poll that shows that every ACSE member has voted Anti truth ?

Link please???


The largest group i know of that has taken an official stance one way or the other is AE911
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I know understanding things isn't your strong suit, but if you'll read carefully what Anthony had to say, you'll see he doesn't making any statements regarding what non-AE911 engineers do or do not believe. He merely points out the statistical insignificance of AE911's membership, thus making any claims that they have a "consensus" profoundly fraudulent. Kind of like every other claim made by you and the ridiculous "movement" you champion.
 
roundhead said:
Kindly point me to the poll that shows that every ACSE member has voted Anti truth ?

Link please???


The largest group i know of that has taken an official stance one way or the other is AE911
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That's like asking, show me a poll of scientitsts that think the earth is round.
 
johnny karate said:
I know understanding things isn't your strong suit, but if you'll read carefully what Anthony had to say, you'll see he doesn't making any statements regarding what non-AE911 engineers do or do not believe. He merely points out the statistical insignificance of AE911's membership, thus making any claims that they have a "consensus" profoundly fraudulent. Kind of like every other claim made by you and the ridiculous "movement" you champion.
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The truth likely is that 90% of those engineers arent aware of 9/11 in much of any way, since probably a week after it was over.


Heck i bet a sizeable portion of the population doesnt know North Carolina is the NCAA basketball champs less than two weeks ago.


The fact is, people are passionate about 9/11, those who are passionate about it, the largest group on one side or the other is AE911.
 
roundhead said:
The fact is, people are passionate about 9/11, those who are passionate about it, the largest group on one side or the other is AE911.
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Just like the people who are passionate, one way or the other, whether the earth being round or not, the largest group on either side, is the Flat-Earth Society.
 
roundhead said:
Kindly point me to the poll that shows that every ACSE member has voted Anti truth ?

Link please???


The largest group i know of that has taken an official stance one way or the other is AE911
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ACSE said AE911 guys are dolts with no real evidence.
 
roundhead said:
The truth likely is that 90% of those engineers arent aware of 9/11 in much of any way, since probably a week after it was over.
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Yeah, I'm sure the overwhelming majority of the world's engineer's simply aren't aware of the most significant engineering-related event in recent history (despite the fact that Richard Gage has been actively campaigning their industry for support for years).

roundhead said:
Heck i bet a sizeable portion of the population doesnt know North Carolina is the NCAA basketball champs less than two weeks ago.
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Great analogy. :rolleyes:

Now apply it to the population of people who are involved in and/or follow college basketball. I bet your numbers might go up a bit.

roundhead said:
The fact is, people are passionate about 9/11, those who are passionate about it, the largest group on one side or the other is AE911.
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Here's your chance to be a hero. Be sure and let us know the reply you get when you inform one of the world's largest engineering organizations that the reason they don't support your movment is because they must not follow engineering-related issues too closely.
 
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