Are you in favor of air pollution or just noise pollution? As already mentioned, one can legally purchase a silencer/suppressor/can in the USA as long as the ATF rules are followed. The 1934 NFA $200 tax is more than the cost of the device.
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Are you in favor of air pollution or just noise pollution? As already mentioned, one can legally purchase a silencer/suppressor/can in the USA as long as the ATF rules are followed. The 1934 NFA $200 tax is more than the cost of the device.
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Firearm mufflers need to be moved to title 1. I'd buy one for every firearm I lost in the boating accident.
Did you just make that up? Silencers/suppressors have never been illegal under federal law. They cost an extra $200 to the feds, same as a machinegun. Here in KY, once I get the paperwork from the feds the state imposes no additional restrictions. Some of the bigger gun shops have them in stock.
Hey...you aren't a Washington legislator, are you?
Well, since you've thrown out the conclusion with no explanation - how is owning a silencer/suppressor irresponsible or "like a spoiled child"? I'm confident you have a thoughtful and interesting explanation for your conclusion. Really.
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Well, I wrote that post about three months ago, and 34 minutes after I posted it, I posted a retraction to that post. And I have made another public retraction about it, and two private retratcions about it.
Now then, if you are amused by being ticked off about retracted posts, then please do so. As for me, however, I can think of better things to do with my time.
Mr. Silvers’ data is my main source of information on the noise levels of suppressed weapons even though it is a few years out of date. I am also a member of the SilencerTalk forum that he owns. He has contributed less to the forum since he became an employee of AAC, a company that makes silencers and was recently bought out by Remington. But after JREF, Clavius and Accurate Reloading, it is my favorite forum. I have learned much from it.
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I remember a movie where the bad guy uses a 2 litre plastic soda bottle as a silencer.
When are those going to be illegal as that is more sinister that a lathed piece of steel.
Never I hope. Anything used as a silencer (in the USA) is legal as long as the $200 tax is paid and you live in a state that allows them. There used to be a company that made soda bottle adaptors for attaching them to a gun barrel. I have read claims that they are still available and that the ATF treats the bottle like a wipe, in other words it can be replaced after the worn out one is destroyed.
I think they make lousy silencers as they cover the sights, suppress poorly and are generally pieces of crap.
Ranb
I sent letters and a copy of the DVD to Washington Cease Fire, the WA Council of Police and Sheriffs and the WA Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs. All of them are taking a neutral stance on registered silencer use.
I talked to WA CF this morning about their stance and one of their officers brought up the subject of the DVD I sent them. I asked what he thought of it telling him that some others thought it was as exciting as watching the grass grow. He had the same opinion, but claimed it was educational.
If a silencer use bill passes in WA, I will move on to making SBS's and SBR's legal again. I might make another video, but I will have to find a way to make it more interesting to watch without making them seem like more dangerous weapons compared to their full sized counterparts.
Ranb
I talked to WA CF this morning about their stance and one of their officers brought up the subject of the DVD I sent them. I asked what he thought of it telling him that some others thought it was as exciting as watching the grass grow. He had the same opinion, but claimed it was educational.
If a silencer use bill passes in WA, I will move on to making SBS's and SBR's legal again. I might make another video, but I will have to find a way to make it more interesting to watch without making them seem like more dangerous weapons compared to their full sized counterparts.
Ranb
House bill 1016 passed a vote on the House floor.
The Senate companion bill 5112 is not scheduled for an executive hearing. I am hoping it is because the House bil passed and is headed to the Senate. Half way to the Governor's desk.
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The Senate companion bill 5112 is not scheduled for an executive hearing. I am hoping it is because the House bil passed and is headed to the Senate. Half way to the Governor's desk.
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Wronggity wrong wrongful wrongness from wrongville
Go fire even a lowly 22 pistol inside a house, then come over to my recording studio so i can show you how damaged you just got (possibly permanently)
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I have a .40 S&W pistol - standard carry for the majority of police in the US in the form of Glock 22 (I'm not a LEO, nor do I have a Glock, just pointing out it's an extremely common gun for defense) - which runs around 155dB. What it would do inside a house, or worse, inside a car, I don't like to think about. I fully expect hearing damage should I ever be forced to protect myself in these situations (155dB probably won't cause hearing damage outdoors, I'm led to believe, though I have no cite for that).
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An old thread, but the title seems to fit.
I thought some people here might be interested in this:
"See Through Suppressor in Super Slow Motion (110,000 fps) - Smarter Every Day 177"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOXunRYJIw
I thought some people here might be interested in this:
"See Through Suppressor in Super Slow Motion (110,000 fps) - Smarter Every Day 177"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOXunRYJIw
Soteria Suppressors. Using cast acrylic instead of steel or aluminum for the tube (body). No surprise that .308 destroyed the can by blowing the front end cap off along with the tube. The rear threads just wouldn't be strong enough for all that pressure.
The flow path of the .223 can was interesting. Not sure what the other two cans were bored to.
ETA; The WA silencer use bill passed into law back in 2011. Didn't make any difference at the local level though. People still complain about noisy shooting areas after they move in next to one that has been around since the 1920's. County prosecuting attorney calls use of noise abatement illegal; AG and BATFE do not agree.
The flow path of the .223 can was interesting. Not sure what the other two cans were bored to.
ETA; The WA silencer use bill passed into law back in 2011. Didn't make any difference at the local level though. People still complain about noisy shooting areas after they move in next to one that has been around since the 1920's. County prosecuting attorney calls use of noise abatement illegal; AG and BATFE do not agree.
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Here's a longer version of the video that includes some discussion of the designs and also a bit more footage from the range and of their tests. I don't really know much about the subject, so I'll just say I enjoyed watching the videos and will leave the discussion of the information contained to others.
"See Through Suppressor in Super Slow Motion BEHIND THE SCENES"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7fqcYxV_b4
"See Through Suppressor in Super Slow Motion BEHIND THE SCENES"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7fqcYxV_b4
I think careful choice of terminology might help your effort. "Muffler" sounds a rather innocuous word (even sounds a bit like "muffin"), "suppressor" sounds slightly "suppressive" and "silencer" sounds downright scary; the sort of thing James Bond uses to kill people with.
I've spent years debating the appropriate terms to use. Muffler and silencer are the legal terms used in the US Code. Suppressor only appears once in one of the regs to describe a flash hider. The first time I sat down to talk to a local legislator to discuss supporting a silencer use bill in WA, I used the term sound suppressor. She asked if I meant silencer. I smiled and said yes. I then continued to use the word silencer, showed her a few from my collection, invited her to the local range (she declined) and in the end she signed on as a co-sponsor.
The silencer bill in DC appears to be dead in the water. Trump doesn't really care about it as he has nothing to gain by supporting it. Other than the occasional letter to a Congresscritter, I'm not lobbying for it at all right now.
The silencer bill in DC appears to be dead in the water. Trump doesn't really care about it as he has nothing to gain by supporting it. Other than the occasional letter to a Congresscritter, I'm not lobbying for it at all right now.
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