Fight fire with fire, or idiocy with logic: JREF project?

Undesired Walrus said:
Indeed. It will be good, regardless of teh cynics (Who may be quite legitimate in their beliefs...but, meh...)

I would welcome a volunteer for a voiceover artist, preferably who sounds nothing like Charlie Sheen.

And Gumboot, dont worry about any costs, it would be my pleasure, but how do I get these MPG files onto disk?
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How about an Australian voiceover artist?
 
BeAChooser said:
I fear you underestimate their influence.

Go to a highschool classroom and ask the students what they think happened to the WTC towers. Many of them will say they think the government did it and that bombs brought them down. Ask them why and they will point to some of the many "films" the *truth* movement have put out as youtube videoclips. Unfortunately, that is where many in the next generation are getting their perception of the world. And those perceptions will influence the next generation's behavior and voting patterns.
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I just had a conversation with my neighbors kid and a couple of his buddy's (17 years old). They say they "dabbled" in LCF for a while but pretty quickly figured out that it was all just a scam. They claim that Avery and a couple of others do most of the posting (under several socks). They say if you watch it long enough it's obvious who they are. He told me the only people that stick with it for any length of time are the "goth" types and their mostly loners anyway. After talking to them I definitely felt better about their reasoning skills. It seems now all
I have to work on is their taste in music.
 
Myriad said:
I think that might have been me. Was it this post?

The thread it came from is here.
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Yes, that's the one! I thought it was a very good take on why we don't need to engage in a counter-propaganda movement against the Twoofers.

And the key phrase was "kiss this frog", not "kiss this pig." No wonder I couldn't find it.

There were some very good responses to my post, as well as good points raised earlier in the thread. Both points of view should be carefully considered.
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Agreed.
 
Mobyseven said:
How about an Australian voiceover artist?
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Unless the script mentions "Crocs", "wallabies", "tinnies" or "Sheilas".....forget it.

ETA: All said with the notorious rising inflection, of course.
 
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Undesired Walrus said:
I would welcome a volunteer for a voiceover artist, preferably who sounds nothing like Charlie Sheen.
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Go to voice123.com. They have an extensive collection of freelancers, with samples you can play. They wouldn't do it for free, though.

Or you can shoot me a PM. I used to work in radio. Though I don't really meet the "authoritarian" and "sounds nothing like Charlie Sheen" qualifications. I'm more like "high-strung fast-talking but very clear young guy."
 
Mobyseven said:
So, I'm going to guess you're saying, "No," to an Australian then. Shoot.
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Oh, are you the aussie? Sure, if you sound like Karl Kennedy! That's a great voice!

EDIT: It could be argued that an American voice would apply to the wider audience instantly, but I only started this thread, I don't make the decision!
 
R.Mackey said:
At present I'm still preparing a writeup showing why David Ray Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking is about as right as a left-handed corkscrew... it's way more effort than we should have to perform, true, but it may prove educational in its own right.
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Please tell me you're going to call it "Debunking Debunking 9/11 Debunking".
 
T.A.M. said:
What about Ron or Mark??

TAM:)
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Being a New Yorker, Mark has a great voice, Not sure whether he would be up for it though....

I was thinking of maybe one of those synthised speech things, only problem is they sound so souless..
 
I've been told that I have an authoritarian voice. When I was in school and found myself in a group project, where one of the members had to make a presentation, I would get picked by the group to do it every stinking damn time.

Also, according to my friends, after you get a few drinks in me I develop a pronounced received pronunciation type English accent. Which is really strange since I've never been to the UK nor do I have any friends or family that speak with that accent. Pretty darn odd.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Oh, are you the aussie? Sure, if you sound like Karl Kennedy! That's a great voice!

EDIT: It could be argued that an American voice would apply to the wider audience instantly, but I only started this thread, I don't make the decision!
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And yet another falls to the plague of Neighbours...hell, at least you aren't watching Home and Away.

An American voice might appeal to a wider American audience (or an English voice - everything sounds true when an Englishman says it :p) but if you feel like having someone from the down under continent do the voice, know that I'm here and willing. I don't know about 'authoritative', but I've had some training which would come in handy.

Though I do like the idea of Mark maybe doing it. He'd have to be willing though.
 
I suggest getting someone with a pronounced german accent. That'll yank the 'truthers' chains....

 
DGM said:
I just had a conversation with my neighbors kid and a couple of his buddy's (17 years old). They say they "dabbled" in LCF for a while but pretty quickly figured out that it was all just a scam.
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I'm not saying that most high school students believe this but the percentage is much higher than one should feel comfortable with. Remember that only 10-20% may be enough to markedly affect politics. Especially if they are vocal about their beliefs. And my experience is that these were some of the more politically vocal (not necessarily astute) kids. I guess only time will tell what the youtube generation's way of learning the *truth* has on society.

DGM said:
It seems now all
I have to work on is their taste in music.
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ROTFLOL! No Death Cab For Cutie for you?
 
Reality Believer said:
Is James Earl Jones available? If you could get him, the argument is sealed. The toofers would never be able to top that! Remember, for them, it is all about the presentation and not the message. :rolleyes:
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I don't know... something about the Voice of Darth Vader explaining that there's no NWO seems problematic to me.
 
I recall first watching the televized debated between Gravy and Bermas, thinking about why this is so rarely done?
Everyone loves to see a good live debate on topics they can relate to in one way or another.
Back in school, our social science teacher always had us choosing between a few topics and then doing a formal debate on it, infront of the other students.

I think there is an appeal there-of, it's a convincing medium if you will... at least for those who have little interest in cross-referencing between rebuttals back and forth across the internet (which isn't a bad thing of course, however let's not kid ourselves here, not a whole lot of people bother with it).
 
R.Mackey said:
I don't know... something about the Voice of Darth Vader explaining that there's no NWO seems problematic to me.
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I've always been partial to the delivering voices of David Warner (if one disagrees, listen to his portrayel of Jon Irenicus in the PC game "Baldur's Gate II") and John Hurt (if one disagrees, just watch Jim Henson's "The Storyteller").
 
So.. If this thread was taking place in a function room I'd be calling you back from all of you chatting at the refreshments from my chair in a circle I had set up with you (With a mutter of 'Oh jeez...here he goes again' :) )but... does anyone have any ideas?

Classical music? Images? Something to welcome the audience in?
 
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