Fidel Castro on 'Nuclear War'

[Beerina]

While Cuba is surprisingly well-working for a dictatorship, it's still a dictatorship. As someone who has worked in journalism, and might do so again, I would not want to live there.

There's a lot more to freedom than freedom of speech. What good, speech, when you can do nothing else without permission?

 

[nvidiot]

Careful of emulating your handle too closely. The comment was directed at Castro's comments, not the Druid.

I know this, and my comments are far from idiotic, they're quite correct. It's still attacking the arguer not the argument. Castro is a former military dictator who did horrible things, ruled over a long suffering country with an iron fist for many decades and nearly brought the world to nuclear war. He should be arrested for crimes against humanity and spend the remaining pathetic existence he has in a damp gaol cell. I hear Guantanamo has a few berths free, and its local...

But that doesn't mean he might not have a point. If the argument falls it falls on its merits, not on who argues it. Perhaps you'd like to address it? Everyone else seems to be ignoring it.

 

[Corsair 115]

Would you then characterize Venezuela as having a "good trading relationship" with the United States?

Well, in 2009, the U.S. exported $9.4 billion worth of goods to Venezuela while importing $28.1 billion of goods from it. That same year, 10.5% of U.S. crude oil imports were from Venezuela.

Does that constitute a good or bad trading relationship?

 

[bikerdruid]

Iran is the one calling for the elimination of Israel, not the other way around.Israel could never invade Iran, and would have great difficulty in even attacking it once, possibly a one way trip for their planes.

Iran funds every significant terrorist group on the planet. That's aggression. Ask Iraq about Iranian aggression (even though in this case they deserved each other).

Iran has signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty that you oppose, and they are in violation of it, which you support.


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iran has never called fror the destruction of israel. that is a myth that has been debunked many times. i defy you to prove me wrong.
please prove your point that iran funds terrorist groups. again, a myth. again, i defy you to prove your statement.
how is iran breaking a nuclear proliferation treaty? they have no nuclear weapons.
israel, who has never signed such treaties, has nuclear weapons.
double standard much?

you are just regurgitating propoganda.

 

[Rufo]

There's a lot more to freedom than freedom of speech. What good, speech, when you can do nothing else without permission?

Of course there are other issues. Saying you can do 'nothing' else without permission might be a stretch, and I maintain that compared to other dictatorships, Cuba has its merits. But you make a fair point: Cuba certainly put more limits on its citizens than in terms of freedom of expression. It's just that their treatment of journalists hits especially close to home for me.

 

[Checkmite]

Does that constitute a good or bad trading relationship?

More importantly, what does it have to say about Hugo's dedication to ending US dominance?

 

[Elind]

But that doesn't mean he might not have a point. If the argument falls it falls on its merits, not on who argues it. Perhaps you'd like to address it? Everyone else seems to be ignoring it.

What point? That a nuclear exchange would mean the end of humanity? What scenario do you see that happening in? NK and Iran against the rest of the planet?

It's a silly generalization by a dying dictator with no connection to reality. Perhaps that is why it is largely ignored.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

..who has never been an aggressor to another nation, unlike his neighbours.

*cough*Che"the Butcher of La Cabana"Guevera*cough*

ever been to cuba?
it's quite a lovely impoverished place, full of happy, friendly people willing to brave the open seas in hand-made rafts to escape to America.

Corrected free of charge.

You're turning into a self-parody, Bikerdruid.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

iran has never called fror the destruction of israel. that is a myth that has been debunked many times. i defy you to prove me wrong.

This must be embarrassing for you. You may feel free to flee the thread and pretend it never happened, if you like?

 

[Architect]

If you're going to mention impoverished, then we're going to mention that the US is the mob enforcing a trade embargo not just of its own nationals (fair enough, whatever) but also the rest of the world (that would be illegal, you'll find).

 

[SezMe]

Iraqn?

Aw, c'mon, Pardalis. You're reduced to nagging on a typo?

 

[bikerdruid]

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This must be embarrassing for you. You may feel free to flee the thread and pretend it never happened, if you like?

i'm not remotely embarrassed.
the claim thatiiran 's president has said that israel should be wiped off the map, is not true.
a poster on the wall targeting individuals does not make your case.
all sorts of posters and graffitti find themselves on walls and hardlyt indicate government policy.

 

[bikerdruid]

*cough*Che"the Butcher of La Cabana"Guevera*cough*


Corrected free of charge.

You're turning into a self-parody, Bikerdruid.

old news. che has been dead for over 50 years.
do you live in the past?
how about american atrocities in vietnam. they are just as relevant.
let's try to deal with relevant facts, shall we?
modern cuba is not what it was 50 years ago either.
i have travelled there...have you?

 

[Elind]

i'm not remotely embarrassed.
the claim thatiiran 's president has said that israel should be wiped off the map, is not true.
a poster on the wall targeting individuals does not make your case.
all sorts of posters and graffitti find themselves on walls and hardlyt indicate government policy.

You should get out more.

 

[Elind]

modern cuba is not what it was 50 years ago either.

Love those 50 year old cars, don't you?

 

[bikerdruid]

Love those 50 year old cars, don't you?

ya, actually....don't you?
i have a soft spot for the '56 ford.
i like old motorcycles too.

 

[Virus]

please prove your point that iran funds terrorist groups. again, a myth. again, i defy you to prove your statement.

Consider yourself defied:

Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Gulf and undermined the growth of democracy.

Iran remained the principal supporter of groups that are implacably opposed to the Middle East Peace Process.

Iran’s Qods Force provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons. Since at least 2006, Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives.

Despite its pledge to support the stabilization of Iraq, Iranian authorities continued to provide lethal support, including weapons, training, funding, and guidance, to Iraqi Shia militant groups that targeted U.S. and Iraqi forces.

Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior al-Qa’ida (AQ) members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody

Senior IRGC, IRGC Qods Force, and Iranian government officials were indicted by the Government of Argentina for their alleged roles in the 1994 terrorist bombing of the Argentine-Jewish Mutual Association

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2009/140889.htm

So the State Department says you're full of crap. And you call other people ignorant because they don't buy the propaganda line from Castro's useful idiots.

 

[Elind]

So the State Department says you're full of crap. And you call other people ignorant because they don't buy the propaganda line from Castro's useful idiots.

Nice summary, but you know that Druids consider the US State Department the worst terrorist on the planet, don't you.

 

[bikerdruid]

Consider yourself defied:

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So the State Department says you're full of crap. yes...a proven fact.
And you call other people ignorant because they don't buy the propaganda line from Castro's useful idiots.

pfffft....sorry, the u.s govt is anything but a reliable source.
lying is what they do...weapons of mass destruction...ring a bell?

please.....how about a direct quote from the accused?

 

[bikerdruid]

Nice summary, but you know that Druids consider the US State Department the worst terrorist on the planet, don't you.

i noticed that you have not answered my challenge to find anywhere that amadinijad called for the destruction if israel..
you can't...because he never said it.