Feinstein and the Anarchist's Cookbook.

Wow...

OK guys we all know what you think about The Anarchist's Cookbook. Let's just ignore the fact is that it has been linked to real crimes, as well as heavily edited and revised since the first version most people make their judgements on...

What about Inspire *********** magazine? Maybe we should have that removed from the internet? Or does your desire for free-speech extend to al-Qaeda manuals on how to kill us?

Also, I don't gather that Feinstein is really implying that it is possible to completely remove something from the internet, rather, I think they are implying that it should be made as hard as possible to host such things. People laughing about an initiative to deny the enemy it's propaganda gains and educating it's agents across the world is *********** stupid...
 
Stupid is as stupid does.

Feinstein has been smacked down once already in 1997 for wanting to ban this book. Here's a good article from Techdirt on the current idiocy and her history with being on the losing end of the battle over the First Amendment.
 
Old stuff!

kookbreaker said:
I am half convinced that TAC is designed to get would-be bombers to blow themselves up instead of their target. Bomber Provocatuer!
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This idea was floating around as soon as TAC appeared, for the good reason you cite.

Hell, I can remember when the FBI was supplying faulty detonators to the blow-'em-up wing of La Raza in Boulder CO. This was after a couple of carloads of crazies had disintegrated themselves with plain old dynamite. I mean, the FBI, man! Like I mean what other explanation could there be?
 
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applecorped said:
Such as?
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http://www.wired.com/2011/01/pl_print_anarchistcookbook/

Just one out of an incomplete list from a site pro-techie nerds will accept...

2005 A search of the apartments used by the London 7/7 bombers yields explosives, an improvised detonator, and excerpts from the Cookbook on the shards of a broken CD.
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There are of course many updated versions with less bad information...

Honestly though, talking about this issue in regards to Inspire magazine is extremely important. This cacophony nonsense about how stupid Feinstein is for not understanding the internet is what is a joke.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
It's a start, but we can do much more. We already have the technology to monitor internet traffic for terrorist activity etc. All we need to do is extend that to include objectionable material and block it in real time. Of course this means that any encrypted information is suspect, so anything that can't be decrypted should be blocked automatically.

Another thing that could easily be implemented is the blocking of offending URLs and IP addresses. Domain names should be vetted before allocation, and websites monitored continuously for infringements. Unauthorized peer-to-peer connections should also be forbidden. ISPs would be required to cooperate in ensuring the integrity of this system.

Nobody (not even pedophiles or terrorists) should be prosecuted for merely downloading a few files. What should be aggressively prosecuted is anybody uploading those files. Downloading occurs automatically by simply viewing a web page or getting email, but uploading requires conscious effort. The originators of objectionable material should be hunted down and brought to justice, but casual downloaders should be let off provided that they don't make use of it.

Many people already run add blockers and 'safe browsing' filters. I propose that the same technology be used to block objectionable material. These filters should be installed on all devices by default, and made freely available for installation on existing systems (perhaps combined with antivirus software to help clean up malware). In cases of 'accidental' possession of illegal files, showing that you are using an approved filter could give immunity against prosecution, while deliberately disabling it would be an offense.
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You want to let the government have all that power, or am I missing the sarcasm?

All of this just because the "alleged bombers made use of books like the Anarchists Cook Book"? Just burn the Constitution and get it over with.
 
Since there's no shortage of "legitimate", or rather legal, reasons to make and use explosives there's no shortage of information both on and offline that details how to do that. The same applies to making drugs/medicine, guns and so on.

No well determined and patient person would ever be deterred by something as trivial as not being able to download "The Anarchist's Cookbook" as a PDF document when there's far more detailed and more reliable information on building bombs.

Edit: Why just stop at bombs? Shouldn't physics textbooks that detail nuclear reactions be censored as well? Even on Wikipedia instructions on how to synthesize poisonous gasses and neurotoxins is openly available. The only thing that's preventing people from making mustard gas in their basement is lack of will, inability to get the raw materials and lack of skill to follow instructions.
 
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mgidm86 said:
You want to let the government have all that power, or am I missing the sarcasm?
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Not sarcasm, realism. I am not one of those wild-eyed libertarians who thinks that 'freedom' is preferable to essential security. You think the government can protect our freedoms by being weak?

The government is us, and that power is ours to wield for the common good. Without it we are powerless individuals, and Anarchy reigns. Is that what you want?

All of this just because the "alleged bombers made use of books like the Anarchists Cook Book"? Just burn the Constitution and get it over with.
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The Constitution is a joke. It was created at a time when the British Empire was the primary threat, and we were the 'terrorists'. Generations of politicians have twisted parts of it to mean exactly the opposite of what was intended, and it has given us a system of government which is now almost unworkable.

It is ridiculous to presume that the drafters were prescient enough to take into account technological advances such as the Internet, and that their ideas must be the final word on what can be done.
 
Did the guy with the pressure cooker and the firecrackers need the ACB?

California, which is pretty stringent regarding guns, does allow up to 99lbs of gunpowder held at home. Who needs a cook book?
 
SMFH

The Boston bombers got their bomb-marking instructions from Inspire magazine. This is a fact.

Does no one agree with me on the asininity level here?
 
You're the one who has to live with your thoughts when you're alone at night....
 
Monketey Ghost said:
Jesus, the Anarchist Cookbook was something teenagers spoke of in whispers back when I was a teenager in the early eighties.
Half of everything in it was crap and the other half was absurd crap.
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I remember thinking the same thing when I saw a physical copy in my friend's possession when I myself was a teen.
 
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