Fat Studies

[blutoski]

Undoubtedly. But we don't have much beyond trollhood with which to diagnose Jules. I mean, there is that weird obsession with capitalization which is suggestive of something, but it's just not enough to nail anything down.

Agreed - diagnosis via capitalization choice is sketchy at best.

Also, I overlooked ASPD as the 3rd diagnosis common for trolls.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Pause said the field did not start in the same place as obesity research.

"I liken it to be quite like women's studies, Maori studies or queer studies," she said.

This is basically the root of it.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Okay.

I'm not thin. Not fat either. Plump. Curvy, you could say. From my experience, and what I have been told, guys more often than not prefer this to the "brainwashed media idea" of excessive thinness, and grosteque fatness. See: the thread on bigg butts joey McGee made.

Not sure if serious. The media is all about big butts and curves. 98% of the songs on the radio are about butts.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

The terminology isn't at all standard. Chubby means entirely different things to different men and women. Same with the terms fat, plump, obese, curvy, voluptuous, slim, athletic, skinny, fit, etc.

Just because you use one of these terms doesn't mean that the listener agrees with you on what body that is describing.

Exactly. Also, it varies by what you are surrounded by. Many Americans (and other overweight countries like NZ) see being overweight as normal.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Healthy is anywhere between BMI 17-34.

Nope, 18.5-24.9.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

And people, let's cite studies if we are just going to focus on your sex lives:

Essentially, the male ideal is an inverted pyramid with broad shoulders and small waist, while the female ideal is an hourglass with a small waist-to-hip ratio. Second, both women and men preferred slimmer female bodies than the real female participants possessed.

Linky.

The ideal female body set by women (BMI = 18.9, WHR = 0.70, WCR = 0.67) was very similar to the ideal partner set by men, particularly in their BMI (BMI = 18.8, WHR = 0.73, WCR = 0.69). This was a lower BMI than the actual BMI of 39 of the 40 women. The ideal male body set by the men (BMI = 25.9, WHR = 0.87, WCR = 0.74) was very similar to the ideal partner set by the women (BMI = 24.5, WHR = 0.86, WCR = 0.77). This was a lower BMI than the actual BMI of roughly half of the men and a higher BMI than the other half. The results suggest a consistent preference for an ideal male and female body size and shape across both genders.

Linky.

Some previous studies have suggested that the ideal BMI for female attractiveness preferred by women is significantly lower than that preferred by men (Fallon & Rozin, 1985; Rozin & Fallon, 1988). In these studies, subjects were shown a sheet of paper on which were displayed nine line-drawn cartoon female figures (originally produced by Stunkard, Sorenson, & Schulsinger, 1980), which increase in apparent body mass across the page. The male and female subjects were asked a number of questions including which female figure they thought most attractive. A possible flaw in this experiment is the quality of the stimuli. First, the artistic quality of the line drawings is very poor. They do not give a good representation of a human body. We have used these figures in a previous study, and subjects have had difficulty in relating these figures to a corresponding real-life body shape (Parkinson, Tove´e, & Cohen-Tove´e, 1998). The figures are also of a poor quality scientifically, as they co-vary a number of features across the nine figures, including WHR front and apparent BMI. Therefore, subjects may have judged attractive- ness on a number of uncontrolled variables. Our failure to find any gender difference when using real images, both in front-view and profile – where both BMI and WHR are known – suggests that the gender difference reported by Fallon & Rozin may have been an artifact of their experimental stimuli.

Our results also suggest that there is no difference in the perception of female attractiveness between images seen in front-view and profile. The optimal BMI remains at about 19–20, and observers continue to prefer the lowest WHR.

Linky.