Fat gene

[Earthborn]

Yeti's expertise in the struggles of dieting come from, if I recall, a net weight loss of 15 pounds.

Geeez... That's like 7 or 8 kilograms. He wasn't even overweight in any medical sense of the word.

And I believe EvilYeti actually did pretty much that in an earlier thread.

No, he didn't. It wasn't a realistic plan for you, was it?

I don't need any tips, I don't need someone to design a plan for me to lose weight. I know what I need to do. It is getting off the dime and doing it that is the problem.

That's why you may need some tips to start very modestly. Like: park your car just one parking space further than you plan to do. Drink diet coke once in a while, just to get used to the taste (it's not my idea of a tasty treat either but very slowly I'm getting used to it). Ignore anyone who tells you you should drink water instead.

No one can turn their life around all at once. Take baby steps. Don't worry about it if you don't take baby steps everyday. It is not a test of willpower. Forget about willpower.

Can you do that?

For some reason, people who are not overweight/obese think that those of us who are overweight/obese don't realize that we eat too much, that we eat the wrong things, and that we don't get enough exercise. WE KNOW. But knowing these things, and changing them, are two different things.

I think the trick is to stop worrying about it too much and telling yourself you are a wonderfull person. I think you are.

 

[Earthborn]

<sarcasm type="unhelpful but oh so hard to resist">Zero calories in for 30 days and no weight loss? What are they, nuclear powered?</sarcasm>

Maybe! Or oil, gas or coal: They'll probably have to turn up the central heating. And they won't be doing very much. And I didn't say there is no weight loss, only that it is small. Okay, I admit, it may very well be a bit more than a pound in many cases.

But you may have noticed that in order to make someone lose the recommended 2 kilograms (about 4 pounds) per month (anything more than that is hard to sustain), not only does someone have to limit their diet dramatically, they also need to increase their activity level.

 

[RSLancastr]

Geeez... That's like 7 or 8 kilograms. He wasn't even overweight in any medical sense of the word.

Who knows, maybe he is three feet tall...

No, he didn't. It wasn't a realistic plan for you, was it?

Actually, I would have to reread that thread to remember jsut which advice was his, as I heard from many people, well-intentioned and otherwise, therein.

No one can turn their life around all at once. Take baby steps.

Yup. In the past 14 months or so, I have made several such small steps. I drink far less sugared drinks, much more Crystal Light and diet iced tea. I eat less pasta, though still far more than I should. Though still fairly sedentary, I'm more active, walk more.

Over that time, I have slowly dropped (as of a week or two ago) 58 pounds. According to some of the charts, i've gone from super-obese to "merely" morbidly obese.

It is progress. I can see it and feel it. For instance, this morning I missed my bus stop and had to walk back, about 25 minutes at a brisk (for me) pace. It didn't faze me. 14 months ago, I couldn't walk from my house out to the car without feeling awful.

So yup, I know about baby steps.

Can you do that?I think the trick is to stop worrying about it too much and telling yourself you are a wonderfull person. I think you are.

Thanks, you're very kind. My girlfriend gave me a similar pep talk just yesterday!

But again, no matter how many people give me kind, helpful advice, nor how many try the "shaming" approach, neither are going to get me there, nor will they inspire me to do better. ALL of that has to come from within myself.

 

[EvilYeti]

Who knows, maybe he is three feet tall...

EvilYeti is 6'4". When I first started dieting I went from 240 to 190, the target weight for my height and build. I dropped 50 pounds, not 15. I'm about 215 now and slow dropping again with a target of 200. I'm more into biking then lifting now, so the less weight the better.

Actually, I would have to reread that thread to remember jsut which advice was his, as I heard from many people, well-intentioned and otherwise, therein.

My advice was no more sugary drinks and stop eating at fast food places. Not exactly rocket science.

Yup. In the past 14 months or so, I have made several such small steps. I drink far less sugared drinks, much more Crystal Light and diet iced tea. I eat less pasta, though still far more than I should. Though still fairly sedentary, I'm more active, walk more.

I really think you should make every effort to cut out sugar entirely. Its nothing but empty calories and when you are trying to lose weight, every little bit counts.
I don't see why you don't just drink seltzer water, seeing as you have no sense of smell. Coke tastes like seltzer water to me when I pinch my nose.

Over that time, I have slowly dropped (as of a week or two ago) 58 pounds. According to some of the charts, i've gone from super-obese to "merely" morbidly obese.

Christ, I didn't know the nomenclature went that high! Whats after super? Hyper? Mega? Ultra?

But again, no matter how many people give me kind, helpful advice, nor how many try the "shaming" approach, neither are going to get me there, nor will they inspire me to do better. ALL of that has to come from within myself.

See Earthborn, just what I said. It doesn't matter what anyone says. It's his choice.

And genetics have nothing to do with it.

 

[volant]

Eh, I really do believe the reason I am skinny(Which the article also said happens with this gene.), is because of genes. I am 5'11, 110 pounds, which is beyond normal skinny. Both of my parents were like this, and no matter I have done(weight lifting, swimming, weight gain drinks, etc.), nothing seems to put on weight.

 

[Earthborn]

Yup. In the past 14 months or so, I have made several such small steps. I drink far less sugared drinks, much more Crystal Light and diet iced tea. I eat less pasta, though still far more than I should. Though still fairly sedentary, I'm more active, walk more.

Over that time, I have slowly dropped (as of a week or two ago) 58 pounds.

Congratulations!



(Don't worry: it is fat and sugarfree, but doesn't taste like aspartame)

According to some of the charts, i've gone from super-obese to "merely" morbidly obese.

Those are just labels, invented by a skinny person. Don't put yourself down by looking at them.

It is progress. I can see it and feel it. For instance, this morning I missed my bus stop and had to walk back, about 25 minutes at a brisk (for me) pace. It didn't faze me. 14 months ago, I couldn't walk from my house out to the car without feeling awful.

That's great! That's exactly how you should be measuring your progress, forget the silly pounds and silly labels.

So yup, I know about baby steps.

The important thing is that you are taking them. It means that "But knowing these things, and changing them, are two different things." does no longer apply to you: you are changing them.

Thanks, you're very kind. My girlfriend gave me a similar pep talk just yesterday!

You deserve it.

Originally posted by EvilYeti:
See Earthborn, just what I said. It doesn't matter what anyone says. It's his choice.

Having a supportive girlfriend couldn't have hurt.

And genetics have nothing to do with it.

The fact that it is his choice in no way disproves that genetics influence his choices or the effects of his choices.

Genetics does not mean destiny. It means that some people need a little extra support, which RS apperently found.

 

[RSLancastr]

I really think you should make every effort to cut out sugar entirely. Its nothing but empty calories and when you are trying to lose weight, every little bit counts.

You're right of course, and I am halfway there. I will get there.

I don't see why you don't just drink seltzer water, seeing as you have no sense of smell. Coke tastes like seltzer water to me when I pinch my nose.

Well, a couple of things: Even with no sense of smell, I can taste the difference between a Coke, a Sprite, a carbonated orange drink, a carbonated grape drink, etc. Seltzer water (if it is what I recall) tastes bitter to me. Nasty stuff. Again, this stuff is making its way out of my diet. I already made the switch from Coke/Pepsi to Sprite/SierraMist, and went through the caffeine withdrawals. And I am slowly weaning my way from even those. Time, time.

Christ, I didn't know the nomenclature went that high! Whats after super? Hyper? Mega? Ultra?

I've only seen the "Super" label used in a few places. I don't think it is in the medical literature.

See Earthborn, just what I said. It doesn't matter what anyone says. It's his choice. And genetics have nothing to do with it.

It is my choice to beat it, whether genetics plays a large role, or none at all.

 

[RSLancastr]

Congratulations!

Thanks.

Having a supportive girlfriend couldn't have hurt.

Yes, and she has certainly helped me to become more active.

Genetics does not mean destiny. It means that some people need a little extra support, which RS apperently found.

Yes, but my ex-wife was supportive of my weightloss attempts for years, and yet that helped little.

 

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Quick people! We must eliminate this gene before more mustard gets spilled.

*goes back to arguing with invisible pink unicorn*

 

[EvilYeti]

Quick people! We must eliminate this gene before more mustard gets spilled.

Ok, its two days later and I'm still laughing about that picture. I think I need professional help.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I just think it looks kinda gross, so yeah you need help

I just read an article in the Local paper.

Activity determines health.

A fat active person lives longer and healthier than a skinny sedentary (sp) person.
A fat active person and an active skinny person were both equally healthy.

So they said excercise for health, not weight loss. And if you do eat too much, then exercise will help bring down the appetite.