Fake Ron Paul Currency seized

Tokorona said:
Oliver, I know we have said, ad infinitum, that he appeared (maybe still does, i'm unsure) on Alex Jones's radio show. That is not distancing yourself.
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So what? The BBC-"9/11 ConspiracyFiles" - producer was on AJ's show
as well. Does this make him a Conspiracy Nut,too? You're talking BS.
Paul isn't agreeing with AJ's "Yo, Gubmint did WTC7&9/11". In no way.

What's so hard to stick to the facts??? :confused:
 
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Tokorona said:
Er. One of them is a news producer and not running for office. One is. What's the difference, Oliver?
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The difference is that Paul can speak on Iran's national TV as
long he doesn't agree with Iran. Just appearing on Iran's national
TV doesn't!!!! mean "Agreeing with Iran's national TV". :boggled:

Guess what. Serious Democrats and Republicans are appearing
on FAUX-News channel debates!!!111!!1OMG1!!. How reputable is that? :rolleyes:

Same thing.
 
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Tokorona said:
No, it's not, and I'll spell it out for you

When a politican speaks on a press show, they are gathering support, whether for them, or their positions. (or, resigning, which is an interesting variant on gathering support.. by discharging it.)
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You seem to be pretending that questions such as: "When did you stop beating your wife?", do not exist.
 
Oliver said:
No, the Forum didn't know who he is prior to the thread. There is a difference
as well. But to get back on topic - what's the difference between the Liberty
Dollar and the Disney Dollar which indeed is an accepted currency in Disney
resorts... ?
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So, then would you demand that your local gas station or restaurant accept the Disney Dollars as legal currency? After all, Disney accepts them and one Disney Dollar is bought for one US dollar. Never mind that you cannot deposit them into your bank and that they have value only for those who decide they do, namely Disney.

Why should anyone take a Liberty Dollar just because you say they are worth $20.00? It does not matter what they are made from, they are only worth the metal value regardless of what anyone says. Just try to buy groceries for a pinch of gold dust and see what happens.

If you or others want to accept these coins for trade that is your right, but do not try and claim that it is the same as legal US tender.
 
CyberCecil said:
So, then would you demand that your local gas station or restaurant accept the Disney Dollars as legal currency?
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It is not a demand.

It would be a free transaction between two people.

Can you trade a baseball card with your friend for a bicycle tire tube?
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
How is the currency Fake?
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I know this is from the OP, but just to emphasize the point - it's not currency, therefore if people are trying to use it as such, it would be fake.

JEROME DA GNOME said:
It is not a demand.

It would be a free transaction between two people.
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Interesting because from the "how to use" quotes ZenFountain posted it looks more like an attempt to scam people out of $5.

ZenFountain said:
5. "Do the Drop!" The best way to introduce the Liberty Dollar is to drop the Silver Liberty in someone's hand. Do not hand it to the cashier, Drop it! Hold a one-ounce Silver Liberty a couple inches above the outreached palm and drop it so it lands flat in the person's palm.

6. Now the hardest part - don't say anything! Just wait. Let the person marvel at its beauty, weight, and discover it says TWENTY DOLLARS. When asked "Is it real?" Answer: "Yes, one ounce of silver PRIVATE currency valued at 20 dollars." Do not rush. Just stand there and wait, patiently. No need to smile. Just wait.
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JEROME DA GNOME said:
It is not a demand.

It would be a free transaction between two people.

Can you trade a baseball card with your friend for a bicycle tire tube?
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No it's fraud. Trying to pass of 15 dollars worth of silver ias 20 dollars worth of silver is a crime.
 
Mr. von NotHaus was interviewed by The New York Sun via telephone on Saturday following disclosures that the Liberty Dollar, a gold- and silver-based currency marketed by anti-government activists as an alternative to the greenback, drew the federal government's scrutiny because the coins resembled official currency produced by the U.S. Mint.

Full Article
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Gee, how could they ever accuse Mr. von NotHaus of that?

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$1 USD coin.

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Gold liberty dollar.

Liberty Services was apparently warned multiple times by the US Mint prior to the raid to change their coin design because of concerns it could be confused with official US tender, but it's obvious now the goal was to stir up controversy and draw in the feds. Add to that the fraud that was afoot with the exchange rates and you have nothing more than an anti-government gadfly who has potentially robbed customers of $20 million. What caught my eye immediately from the wiki entry for Liberty Dollars:

Liberty Dollars are currently sold or exchanged for about US$7 over the spot price of silver (as of July 15, 2007).
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Frad? No way! Phoenix silver coins are sold for a mere $0.50-$0.75 (depending on quantity) over the spot price of silver per ounce to cover minting and distribution cost. Please explain how Liberty Services was not running some kind of racket.

There are plenty of other examples of alternative currencies that the federal government has no problem with:

Phoenix Dollars

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Ithaca Hours

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Digital Gold Currencies

What's this you say?

US Mint Gold Buffalo

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What a shocker this whole case is...:boggled:
 
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I haven't purchased one in years, but I have a number of 1 oz. silver Eagles I got from legitimate dealers. I think the premium was a buck or two and the face value is $1.
 
Oliver said:
:D Exactly! And we passed the "ridicule you" stage as well...
Ron Paul for president 2008!
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No, I'd say the 'ridicule you' stage is still going on.

And will continue to go on long after Ron Paul gets thrashed in the primaries.
 
Oliver said:
The difference is that Paul can speak on Iran's national TV as
long he doesn't agree with Iran. Just appearing on Iran's national
TV doesn't!!!! mean "Agreeing with Iran's national TV". :boggled:
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Ron Paul is a U.S. Congressman and a candidate for President. The problem with him appearing on Alex Jones is that by doing so he adds legitimacy to that group. Jones and his minions are using the fact that a U.S. Congressman and presidential candidate is spending time on their show, to attempt to make their claims more believable.

And the fact that Ron Paul can't understand that makes me question his decision making skills, and leads me to conclude I don't want him anywhere near the power of the Presidency.

Oliver said:
Guess what. Serious Democrats and Republicans are appearing
on FAUX-News channel debates!!!111!!1OMG1!!. How reputable is that? :rolleyes:

Same thing.
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The fact that you can't tell the difference between FOX News and a group that is claiming (without proof) that the government murdered 3000 of its own citizens, says more about you than it does about FOX News.
 
I wonder what a ron paul dollar or coin would be worth on ebay? And where are the pictures?
 
snagswolf said:
Ron Paul is a U.S. Congressman and a candidate for President. The problem with him appearing on Alex Jones is that by doing so he adds legitimacy to that group. Jones and his minions are using the fact that a U.S. Congressman and presidential candidate is spending time on their show, to attempt to make their claims more believable.

And the fact that Ron Paul can't understand that makes me question his decision making skills, and leads me to conclude I don't want him anywhere near the power of the Presidency.
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In no way does he add legitimacy to that group so just get that idea out of your head!

Do you think Alex jones/Twoofers are more legitimate now that Ron Paul was on The Alex Jones show?

Do you think anyone who believed 9/11 wasnt an inside job now believes it is because Ron Paul was on The Alex Jones show?

All candidates should be bashed for appearing on the fox news network going by that logic! Everyone knows what they do and how terrible of a company they are. yet you arent bashing them for appearing on this monster of a network!

He went on the show of a supporter nothing more nothing less! He constantly states that he does not believe in those silly conspiracy theories, and most are just mad that twoofers are twisting Ron Pauls internet popularity into there favor because he did appear on the show.

Are you not use to twoofers twisting anything they can to make them look legitimate?
 
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