Facebook Civil Rights Audit

cullennz said:
The far left will just end up being the next one in your list

Quite surprising you can't see this
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Then they came for the Maoists and I didn't speak up because I was a non-violent social democrat?
 
psionl0 said:
You will sing a different tune when your views get attacked by the censors.
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Right, because Trump is just like all the rest of the politicians. :rolleyes:


Maybe if he's allowed to get away with all his criminal activity it will become the norm.
 
So far, after hearing the activities that will be excluded, we have pearl clutching regarding
1) Trump supporters will be affected, and
2) Antifa isn't already being banned.
 
theprestige said:
I think Communism provides a much better historical model for this kind of thing. First they get rid of the fascists. Then they get rid of anyone fascist-adjacent. Then they get rid of anyone insufficiently loyal to the cause. Then they start to work on each other. Trotsky wasn't assassinated because he was essentially as bad as the fascists. He was assassinated because he promoted a competing vision of Marxism. Chinese villagers weren't persecuted and killed during the Great Leap Forward because of their fascist tendencies, but simply because they were getting in the way of the progress of the State.
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That won't happen under any kind of Liberal government in the US - you're just scaremongering again.

The only recent US Administration that has chucked out people for being "insufficiently loyal to the cause" is the one you are defending

James Comey
Jeff Sessions
Rex Tillerson
David Shulkin

et multas, multis aliis


theprestige said:
That's the endgame you're talking about.
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No it isn't
 
pgwenthold said:
So far, after hearing the activities that will be excluded, we have pearl clutching regarding
1) Trump supporters will be affected, and
2) Antifa isn't already being banned.
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Why not?

"Pearl Clutching" and "Whataboutism" are attributes that Trumpistas excel in... its all they have!
 
smartcooky said:
My views do get attacked by the censors, but I'm still singing the same tune as ever.... and it ain't Dixie!
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No they don't. Your views are broadly in lime with what the loony left has deemed politically correct.

The problem is that you don't know which vocal minority pressure group will be setting the rules tomorrow.
 
psionl0 said:
No they don't. Your views are broadly in line with what the loony left has deemed politically correct human decency
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FTFY

psionl0 said:
The problem is that you don't know which vocal minority pressure group will be setting the rules tomorrow.
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Only in the fantasy world you live in. Over here in the real world, the silent majority approve of the rules, and if the minority (e.g. Nazis, antifa, white supremacists) don't like it, they can shove off.

You can't honestly believe that its only a vocal minority who find white supremacist views unacceptable, or the behavior of antifa unacceptable.

If you know history at all, you will know that only extreme left and extreme right wing governments muzzle all views that do not closely match their own. If you disagree with this, then show your evidence... show me anywhere in the history of the world where it has ever happened that a centrist government has shut down people whose views are either moderately right or moderately left of centre.
 
uke2se said:
It's true. There aren't as many of you right wingers as you like to think.
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And look at who is getting elected in Europe. People will play along with lip service to diversity until it works against them. Right now, advocating immigration controls is considered "White Supremacy" on the same level as Jim Crow or Lynchings among many left circles.

Most political parties in Europe are moving right to catch the ultranationalist vote (see the Danish Labour Party who have promised immigration crackdowns), and this is in Europe, which is supposed to be immune from far right politics due to hate speech laws.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
Most political parties in Europe are moving right to catch the ultranationalist vote (see the Danish Labour Party who have promised immigration crackdowns), and this is in Europe, which is supposed to be immune from far right politics due to hate speech laws.
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Facebook doesn't care where uber-right (or uber-left) civil rights haters go, as long as it's off facebook. There's no attempt to immunise society. And it wants them off because that's turned out to be reputationally bad, which is also business-bad. That's why it cares deeply about it.

If it wasn't a cynical money-seeking cold calculating risk aware behemoth it probably wouldn't be doing this.
 
psionl0 said:
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Nice dodge, now show your evidence.....

"If you know history at all, you will know that only extreme left and extreme right wing governments muzzle all views that do not closely match their own. If you disagree with this, then show your evidence... show me anywhere in the history of the world where it has ever happened that a centrist government has shut down people whose views are either moderately right or moderately left of centre. "
 
Francesca R said:
Facebook doesn't care where uber-right (or uber-left) civil rights haters go, as long as it's off facebook. There's no attempt to immunise society. And it wants them off because that's turned out to be reputationally bad, which is also business-bad. That's why it cares deeply about it.

If it wasn't a cynical money-seeking cold calculating risk aware behemoth it probably wouldn't be doing this.
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Facebook is facing much more severe problems than Ultranationalist parties using their platform, and the general mood has turned AGAINST Silicon Valley from EVERY possible political sphere. At this point, we could very well see Trump, however half-assed, implement anti-trust and other regulations, and it won't benefit the left. As for Facebook itself, going by previous track records, there will just be some platitudes and little enforcement.
 
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Probably . . . .

Maybe that's why it's plotting this Libra poison pill so it can threaten to take the payments system down with it if it gets too much grief from politicians.
 
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smartcooky said:
Nice dodge, now show your evidence.....
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YOU are the evidence. YOU are the one who cheered at the prospect of censoring pro Trump views.

It's not hard to see why. Nobody would have thought that Trump would come close to a majority vote in the election - let alone win the presidency. That was the silent majority at work. Now you only want anti-Trump propaganda posted on social media because otherwise there would not enough loony left voters to prevent his re-election.
 
psionl0 said:
YOU are the evidence. YOU are the one who cheered at the prospect of censoring pro Trump views.

It's not hard to see why. Nobody would have thought that Trump would come close to a majority vote in the election - let alone win the presidency. That was the silent majority at work. Now you only want anti-Trump propaganda posted on social media because otherwise there would not enough loony left voters to prevent his re-election.
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No, YOU are dodging again. Show me the evidence, show me anywhere in the history of the world where it has ever happened that a centrist government has shut down people whose views are either moderately right or moderately left of centre. Put up or shut up!
 
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smartcooky said:
No, YOU are dodging again. Show me the evidence, show me anywhere in the history of the world where it has ever happened that a centrist government has shut down people whose views are either moderately right or moderately left of centre. Put up or shut up!
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What has actually happened though is that a purportedly centrist government has moved hard right. See: the Tory lib dems coalition in the UK between 2010 and 2015, when go home vans were sent to immigrant communities, and that was the least damaging policy implemented.
 
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