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Mumbles said:
Well...it's true that Farrakhan has done more good in his life than Milo Alyankovich or Infowars' conspiracy theorizing placebo peddlers. He has managed to get high-crime areas under control when police simply refused to do so, as well as providing security for black celebrities when police wouldn't (at this point, black police unions are around to step in when the normal unions and fellowships throw a fit over mild criticisms). People who speak of him fondly usually recall this, and mostly consider his racism and anti-semitism to be all bark and no bite.

However!

Farrakhan's still a hateful SOB who likely had Malcolm X killed for leaving the group, and he's still a conspiracy theorist and a woo peddler who has increasingly strange ties with Scientology. Saying he's done more good than Infowars - that bar isn't low, it doesn't even exist. If he's on the wrong side of an anti-hate policy, then the policy is being applied properly.
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You already did more good than Alex Jones or Infowars by being born and thereby becoming a member of the human race.
 
smartcooky said:
Some people think there is like for like equivalence of left and right between "communists" and "nazis"; that communists are the left wing version of nazis.

This is false equivalence, and a very politically naive viewpoint.. a noobie mistake.
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See, this is why I like you. We are pretty far apart politically speaking, but you actually seem to know what you are talking about. Unlike so many others on here.

Much respect for your no BS attitude.
 
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Baylor said:
So you're saying communists never killed people!
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If only there was a spurious rule of so to invoke.

As that was a stupid way to avoid a substantive response.

Communists are not the left-wing equivalent of Nazis. Stalinists might be, Maoists might be.

That's not to say that Communism is a good idea, or that I think it can work. It's pointing out that advocating non-violent redistribution of wealth and reordering of society along Communist principles is a valid approach. One might plausibly argue that the end goal would lead to many deaths in that case, but unlike Nazism those deaths are not the goal. In Nazism, the deaths are the goal.
 
jimbob said:
If only there was a spurious rule of so to invoke.

As that was a stupid way to avoid a substantive response.

Communists are not the left-wing equivalent of Nazis. Stalinists might be, Maoists might be.

That's not to say that Communism is a good idea, or that I think it can work. It's pointing out that advocating non-violent redistribution of wealth and reordering of society along Communist principles is a valid approach. One might plausibly argue that the end goal would lead to many deaths in that case, but unlike Nazism those deaths are not the goal. In Nazism, the deaths are the goal.
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Nailed it. :thumbsup:
 
Baylor said:
So you're saying communists never killed people!
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Would you please mention one group of people where nobody ever killed anybody?
Stalin represents communists the same way Hitler represents vegetarians.
 
dann said:
Would you please mention one group of people where nobody ever killed anybody?
Stalin represents communists the same way Hitler represents vegetarians.
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I wonder how the people in this thread feels about twenty years of US troops in Iraq, or the fact that asian factories need to install "suicide nets" so we can all get affordable smartphones.
 
Baylor said:
So you're saying communists never killed people!
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Yes, that is definitely what posters in this thread have stated. And you are definitely a mentally well individual because you actually saw those words that other people definitely typed.
 
jimbob said:
If only there was a spurious rule of so to invoke.

As that was a stupid way to avoid a substantive response.

Communists are not the left-wing equivalent of Nazis. Stalinists might be, Maoists might be.

That's not to say that Communism is a good idea, or that I think it can work. It's pointing out that advocating non-violent redistribution of wealth and reordering of society along Communist principles is a valid approach. One might plausibly argue that the end goal would lead to many deaths in that case, but unlike Nazism those deaths are not the goal. In Nazism, the deaths are the goal.
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"non-violent redistribution of wealth" That's not at all oxymoronic.

Many horrendous atrocities are part and parcel when it comes to communism. Dispossession, starvation, and war on people of faith. Your Muslim brethren in UKGBNI would be stripped of their Religion of Peace if the declared communists of this forum got their way.
 
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Baylor said:
"non-violent redistribution of wealth" That's not at all oxymoronic.

Many horrendous atrocities are part and parcel when it comes to communism. Dispossession, starvation, and war on people of faith. Your Muslim brethren in UKGBNI would be stripped of their Religion of Peace if the declared communists of this forum got their way.
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As we all know, the dispossession practiced by capitalism from the very beginning, for instance enclosure, slavery and unemployment, was and is completely non-violent, based exclusively on the enthusiastic willingness of peasants and workers to be poor and bereft of all means of sustaining themselves. That's what makes the wonderful world of the market economy superior to any other mode of production.
 
This isn't about capitalism. This is about self-declared communists posting on the ISF forum who want to strip Muslims of their right to practice their religion. Banning religion is part and parcel in communism and it's shocking that members of this forum want to do that to their fellow countrymen.
 
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