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Stout said:
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Yes it's well known that before the symbol was adopted as an ersatz gang-sign by white supremacists, it was a very common hand gesture that in the Anglosphere had no negative connotations.
 
Checkmite said:
Yes it's well known that before the symbol was adopted as an ersatz gang-sign by white supremacists, it was a very common hand gesture that in the Anglosphere had no negative connotations.
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Dude...it's 4 chan troll and people are falling for it.

Just look at how far 4chan got with the free bleeding thing. Tom Petty even wrote a song about it.

And I'm free
Free bleedin'
Yeah I'm free
Free bleedin'
And all the vampires walkin' through the valley.....

Gawd I hope that fashtag thing takes off.

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Ridiculous, isn't it ?
 
Stout said:
It's the circle game, or maybe their hands were just resting like that. You tell me, you have to have more information on this issue than I do to positively assert that these guys are white supremacists or flashing white supremacist signals.

Maybe you have the foll up on the investigation. If so, please post it.
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Asking for concrete evidence? What do you think this is, a forum for skeptics?
 
Checkmite said:
Yes it's well known that before the symbol was adopted as an ersatz gang-sign by white supremacists, it was a very common hand gesture that in the Anglosphere had no negative connotations.
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Stout said:
Dude...it's 4 chan troll and people are falling for it.
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Checkmite said:
When white supremacists started actually using it, it stopped being a troll.
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I wonder just how many of the alt.right defenders and ostriches in this thread remember the origins of the swastika.

Prior to the Nazis, the swastika was a very common symbol and design element, known since pre-historic times as a variation of the "sun-wheel", and used by many cultures throughout world history, with a wide variety of names and meanings. In Eurosphere culture prior to WWII, it typically represented good fortune and prosperity, and its used was widespread throughout European and American culture in product packaging, organizational iconography, and so on.

That is specifically the reason that the Nazis chose it as the symbol of their regime. It was a crafty, deliberate tactic link their group to the connotations which that ancient icon already enjoyed in popular culture. (In countries which lay outside of the sphere of WWII at the time, such as India, the symbol still carries much of its original meaning.) A sign of affluence and well-being, linked to one of the most brutal, murderous regimes that ever existed.

The parallels between the rise of the Nazi swastika and the current use of the "OK"/White Power gesture by neo-Nazi and other white nationalist organizations and individuals, are striking and disturbing to anyone who is even a casual student of history.

Continuing to deny or ridicule the suggestion that there is anything sinister about the gesture as it is currently used by white nationalists grows increasingly disingenuous or idiotic.
 
Checkmite said:
The Christians killed by the Muslim extremist bombings in Sri Lanka weren't trolls, or white nationalists. Or white.
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Damn, I was hoping you'd tell me the link between the two attacks was crap so we could actually agree on something for a change. Oh well, some other time.
 
Checkmite said:
Isn't that the precise point of my post?
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Nope, on the day of the bombing attack a Sri Rachan government official announced to the media that the attack was a retaliation for Christchurch. Since then there's been no confirmation of, or even an indication of, where this government official got this information from.
 
Checkmite said:
When white supremacists started actually using it, it stopped being a troll.
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Why did they start though?

Because reactionaries got their panties in a wad over nothing, they saw it bugged them and did it.

The people who created the symbol as racist were not 4chan or even the nazis but people who just sniff around 24 hours a day looking for something to be offended by.

It would be like if you were fighting a yellow bamboo master, and every time he threw an energy burst you slammed your head off the ground. You don't get to then claim he has a deadly ability and try and get him arrested. You hurt yourself trying to hurt him. It just makes you a moron.
 
I can show how silly this is.

If someone were to give me a neutral phrase, that makes sense in English. I can guarentee I could get a yellow card via getting people to assume it's a dog whistle insult.


Odd world we live in.
 
luchog said:
I wonder just how many of the alt.right defenders and ostriches in this thread remember the origins of the swastika.

Prior to the Nazis, the swastika was a very common symbol and design element, known since pre-historic times as a variation of the "sun-wheel", and used by many cultures throughout world history, with a wide variety of names and meanings. In Eurosphere culture prior to WWII, it typically represented good fortune and prosperity, and its used was widespread throughout European and American culture in product packaging, organizational iconography, and so on.
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Something similar happened to Pepe the frog - although when people start putting him in front of a gas chamber, or in an SS uniform, you're giving away the game. They tried it with milk as well, apparently because being able to drink cow juice proves that white people are superior or something, but it's hard to beat the crap out of someone when you've just chugged a gallon pitcher of the stuff. Also, they looked like fools marching up to chug milk in a manly, powerful way - just use a glass or something.

Also, the whole OK thing is a signal for *them* - I think most of us can already guess that the Christchurch shooter or Richard Spencer are white nationalists.
 
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