f911 dvd screeners

[corplinx]

Well, there are dvd screener rips of F911 out for download. Anyone who doesnt want to pay good money to see a movie that goes into Florida 2000 conspiracy theories (most of which have been long debunked) and then going into black disenfranchisement (that phantom boogeyman which has never been proven). The second big indictment of the film is the "bush on vacation" red herring which rounds out the first 10 minutes.

This is like smirkingchimp.com the movie.....

Moreover, its validation material. This is what I call those books bypeople like Ann Coulture that seem to serve no purpose other than to bolster the belief of people who already believe those things (liberal media in the case of Coulture).

So, for those of you who haven't seen the film. I can't really recommend it. Its an exercise in faith over evidence and innuendo over empirical. I can't recommend it any more than I can the Passion of the Christ as a historical documentary.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Well, there are dvd screener rips of F911 out for download. Anyone who doesnt want to pay good money...

Doesn't want to "pay good money." Steal, you mean?

... to see a movie that goes into Florida 2000 conspiracy theories (most of which have been long debunked)...

I haven't seen the film, so it's difficult to say. I'm not aware of "conspiracy theories" regarding Election 2000, the word 'conspiracy' implying undercover goings-on. There was plenty of right-there-in-your-face stuff though.

...and then going into black disenfranchisement (that phantom boogeyman which has never been proven).

Funny, I thought that was common knowledge.

For more on the above, I recommend Jews For Buchanan by John Nichols and David Deschamps.

Moreover, its validation material. This is what I call those books bypeople like Ann Coulture that seem to serve no purpose other than to bolster the belief of people who already believe those things (liberal media in the case of Coulture).

Right. Couldn't possibly have any validity.

Incidentally, I thought of you (that is, Triumph) recently when I was behind a car sporting one of those magnetic yellow patriot slogan ribbons. Picture his mug hawking a version enscribed, "Support My Poops!"

 

[corplinx]

Doesn't want to "pay good money." Steal, you mean?

Moore said its fine to download his movie. As long as you don't try to profit from it.

As for black disenfranchisement, specifically Moore charges that the people purging felons from voting lists targetted blacks.

If legitimate black disenfranchisement occurred, Moore doesn't mention it (and thereby does a disservice since he mentions the unproven felon purging targetting).

 

[a_unique_person]

quote:...and then going into black disenfranchisement (that phantom boogeyman which has never been proven).

Funny, I thought that was common knowledge.

IIRC, they have stopped the 'felon' disenfranchisement, purely because it just didn't work. A list of name of people who can't vote, that isn't verified, that could apply to anyone who has the same or similar name? The concept itself stinks to me, but the application of it was a major balls up.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Well, there are dvd screener rips of F911 out for download. Anyone who doesnt want to pay good money to see a movie that goes into Florida 2000 conspiracy theories (most of which have been long debunked) and then going into black disenfranchisement (that phantom boogeyman which has never been proven). The second big indictment of the film is the "bush on vacation" red herring which rounds out the first 10 minutes.

This is like smirkingchimp.com the movie.....

Moreover, its validation material. This is what I call those books bypeople like Ann Coulture that seem to serve no purpose other than to bolster the belief of people who already believe those things (liberal media in the case of Coulture).

So, for those of you who haven't seen the film. I can't really recommend it. Its an exercise in faith over evidence and innuendo over empirical. I can't recommend it any more than I can the Passion of the Christ as a historical documentary.

Tsk, tsk, proceeds from that movie go to charity. It's bad enough that you're a thief (which might not hurt Michael Moore, but could hurt Lion Gate and cinema complexes), but you're also stealing from orphans and homeless people. Right-wingers have no shame.

 

[Tony]

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Tsk, tsk, proceeds from that movie go to charity. It's bad enough that you're a thief (which might not hurt Michael Moore, but could hurt Lion Gate and cinema complexes), but you're also stealing from orphans and homeless people. Right-wingers have no shame.

Considering the fact that they're responsible for millions of deaths in the 20th century, it's apparent that left-wingers have no shame either.

 

[Walter Wayne]

Moore said its fine to download his movie. As long as you don't try to profit from it.

But the distributor hasn't. Off-topic, but I am curious about who has the authority to permit such downloads.

Walt

 

[Mr Manifesto]

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Considering the fact that they're responsible for millions of deaths in the 20th century, it's apparent that left-wingers have no shame either.

Authoritarian left wingers. Not my brand. Nice try, though.

 

[Jude]

If Moore were the only one involved in the making and distribution of Fahrenheit 911 I would gladly download it, but this is not the case. Sorry.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Considering the fact that they're responsible for millions of deaths in the 20th century, it's apparent that left-wingers have no shame either.

I believe Hitler was somewhat of a right-winger.

 

[RandFan]

If Moore were the only one involved in the making and distribution of Fahrenheit 911 I would gladly download it, but this is not the case. Sorry.

Great topic.

Everyone says, "see the film, how can you judge the film if you don't see it?"

Valid question.

So Moore gets to rub the noses of those he dislikes in the dirt and profit from it while he does it? Smart guy. And he wins even if people download it. Money isn't the main goal. It is getting his message accross. The movie has already grossed more than $100M. The costs have been more than covered. Everything else is wind fall. Where is the downside for this guy?

If you a Moore fan of course you pay to see the movie. But, if you despise Moore, download it. Like it or not it is an important and historical movie. Moore wins but you get a bit of satisfaction of not linning his pocket anymore than it already has. And that is something I think we can all (Bush supporters) be happy about.

 

[corplinx]

If Moore were the only one involved in the making and distribution of Fahrenheit 911 I would gladly download it, but this is not the case. Sorry.

Well, thats an issue for him to take up with the distributor. I downloaded in good faith based on his declaration that it was okay.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Well, thats an issue for him to take up with the distributor. I downloaded in good faith based on his declaration that it was okay.

Think of all those starving orphans who won't have a Christmas because of you. Shame, shame, shame.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Well, thats an issue for him to take up with the distributor. I downloaded in good faith based on his declaration that it was okay.

Kelly is an 18 year old cinema usher who is trying to scrape by through college. In a climate where part-time jobs for teenagers is increasingly tough, she feels lucky to have her occupation. But because of thieves like corplinx, that's all in jeopordy.

"All I'm trying to do is get an education. I can't get a grant, and all the fast food jobs have been taken by poor people trying to feed their families. I can't believe that corplinx could so callously put the cinema under threat just for the sake of saving a few dollars. Where's the free market ethic in that?"

Kelly's manager said he would try as hard as he can to keep as many staff on as he could, but he wasn't sure how long he can hold out. "All I want to know is, what ever happened to supply-side economics?"

 

[Tony]

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Authoritarian left wingers. Not my brand. Nice try, though.

Yes that is your brand, you are authoritarian as they come.

 

[Tony]

I believe Hitler was somewhat of a right-winger.

Evidence?

IIRC Hitler was a socialist and a jew-hater. That allies him more with the ideology of the modern mainstream left than it does with the right.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

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Yes that is your brand, you are authoritarian as they come.

Shucks, you don't know what 'authoritarian' means. Big surprise.

Oh, I get it, because I'm not up all night terrified that my government is going to turn into a hostile dictatorship overnight, that makes me 'authoritarian'. And I believe in gun control. Dirty ol' authoritarian me.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Evidence?

IIRC Hitler was a socialist and a jew-hater. That allies him more with the ideology of the modern mainstream left than it does with the right.

You don't recall correctly. Hitler was a fascist, putting him squarely on the right.

On top of that, you're an idiot for making that statement for several reasons.
1) Jews are mostly on the left. The media, which a right-asskissing wonk like yourself would call 'liberal', is largely controlled by the Jews. It makes no sense that Jews who are liberal would be Jew-haters.
2) Jews are extremely capitalistic. They are pretty far from being socialists.
3) Name a single Jewish Republican who has ever run for a national office. For that matter, name a single Jewish Republican. Now name Jewish Democrats. Start with Leiberman for VP in 2000.

In other words, genius, Hitler, socialism and hating Jews is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to the modern mainstream left, especially the Jewish component of it.

 

[Tony]

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Shucks, you don't know what 'authoritarian' means. Big surprise.

Wrong, I just don't buy your convoluted fiction of what "authoritarian" means.

Oh, I get it, because I'm not up all night terrified that my government is going to turn into a hostile dictatorship overnight, that makes me 'authoritarian'.

Why would you be terrified of your own desires?

And I believe in gun control. Dirty ol' authoritarian me.

Not only are you an authoritarian, but you're also a hypocrite:

Mr Manifesto paraphrased

People have the right to disobey unjust laws.

Apparently an unjust law is anything an authoritarian like you disagrees with. You follow in the proud tradition of nazis and communists.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

You don't recall correctly. Hitler was a fascist, putting him squarely on the right.

On top of that, you're an idiot for making that statement for several reasons.
1) Jews are mostly on the left. The media, which a right-asskissing wonk like yourself would call 'liberal', is largely controlled by the Jews. It makes no sense that Jews who are liberal would be Jew-haters.
2) Jews are extremely capitalistic. They are pretty far from being socialists.
3) Name a single Jewish Republican who has ever run for a national office. For that matter, name a single Jewish Republican. Now name Jewish Democrats. Start with Leiberman for VP in 2000.

In other words, genius, Hitler, socialism and hating Jews is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to the modern mainstream left, especially the Jewish component of it.

I like Tony, but I hate it when he gets confused over simple issues like this. His basic problem is that he doesn't seem to grasp that the left aren't in lockstep on every issue. We actually disagree with each other. That's why we're usually referred to as 'divided' or 'weak' or 'sellouts'... what-have-you.

You don't get this so much with the right. That's why righties like Tony get confused when some on the left criticise Israel. He doesn't even seem to understand that people like myself aren't criticising all Israelis, just the Israeli government (how anti-authoritarian is that?).

But he gets caught in this undefined-middle syllogism ("The Israeli government is bad, the Israeli government is Jewish, therefore all Jews are bad").

He's not the only one. It's just a shame that he gets so caught up on little points like that and can't move the debate forward.