explain why wave-particle duality is nonsense?

[dafydd]

What, huh, did I miss something? Do you need me to do a little dance or recite kitten poetry?

Well at least this thread will have served some purpose if you do that.

 

[dafydd]

you funny.

what it the thread about?

this thread is about particle-wave duality and it seems with basic common sense, you know the outcome.



atta-boy!


now send that lazer through a gazillion miles of mass (fiber optics) and let us know what a 'red-shift' is. (is anything moving away from you?)

It's a waste of time talking to you.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I suppose I could rewrite one of my statements like this:

This behavior has historically been measured in two ways: as either a particle or a wave, depending on the nature of the experiment...

Actually using the photo electric effect to get quantifiable measurements of intensity in a diffraction patter would be quite elegant.

 

[ponderingturtle]

No, Bishadi, you are not. Your English skills are terrible, and much of what you write is complete nonsense because of such bad English.

I am not sure that it is his English that is the issue and not that his ideas don't make any sense, or he can not convey them at all.

 

[Ziggurat]

I am not sure that it is his English that is the issue and not that his ideas don't make any sense

Oh, I strongly suspect his ideas are also nonsense. But we can't even tell what kind of nonsense because he can't communicate.

 

[Bishadi]

It's a waste of time talking to you.

and yet you continue to post here versus do much of anything.

i think the kids use a phrase; "get a life"

 

[Bishadi]

I am not sure that it is his English that is the issue and not that his ideas don't make any sense, or he can not convey them at all.

i had lived with my foot in my mouth before, maybe that is why i toauk phunny

 

[Bishadi]

Actually using the photo electric effect to get quantifiable measurements of intensity in a diffraction patter would be quite elegant.

have you ever heard of it before?

what about with an electron gun has that been measured with comparing results as well?

i like science, are you a tinkering soul. (ie.. if it hasn't been done before perhaps you like to take a shot as something new too?)

 

[Jack by the hedge]

you funny.

what it the thread about?

this thread is about particle-wave duality and it seems with basic common sense, you know the outcome.



atta-boy!


now send that lazer through a gazillion miles of mass (fiber optics) and let us know what a 'red-shift' is. (is anything moving away from you?)

Yet more evasion. You did not answer the question: Are you claiming that shining a laser onto materials with differing mass will produce a reflection of differing wavelength? If so, what measure of mass are you talking about: the density of the material, the atomic weight, molecular mass or something else? And what degree of wavelength shift do you predict? Anything plainly visible? Anything measurable?

(I assume the reference to fibre optics is just another attempt to change the subject. I have never heard anyone refer to any attenuation or dispersion effects in fibre optics as "red shift".)

 

[dafydd]

have you ever heard of it before?

what about with an electron gun has that been measured with comparing results as well?

i like science, are you a tinkering soul. (ie.. if it hasn't been done before perhaps you like to take a shot as something new too?)

Cut out the bluster and braggadocio and provide us with some facts and math.

 

[Bishadi]

Yet more evasion. You did not answer the question: Are you claiming that shining a laser onto materials with differing mass will produce a reflection of differing wavelength?

i cant understand you.

What is "Raman Spectrum"? how can your post reflect such missing points in science?

basic wiki ..... It relies on inelastic scattering, or Raman scattering, of monochromatic light, usually from a laser in the visible, near infrared, or near ultraviolet range. The laser light interacts with molecular vibrations, phonons or other excitations in the system, resulting in the energy of the laser photons being shifted up or down. The shift in energy gives information about the phonon modes in the system

and uses

Raman spectroscopy is commonly used in chemistry, since vibrational information is specific to the chemical bonds and symmetry of molecules. Therefore, it provides a fingerprint by which the molecule can be identified. For instance, the vibrational frequencies of SiO, Si2O2, and Si3O3 were identified and assigned on the basis of normal coordinate analyses using infrared and Raman spectra.[3] The fingerprint region of organic molecules is in the (wavenumber) range 500–2000 cm−1.


ie... when i say each molecular structure has different wavelengths upon the 'mass' then i would think your response would already represent this information.

have you seen the material evidence rendered on graphene? (lets use that for the black body experiment as that one goes upside-down too)

If so, what measure of mass are you talking about: the density of the material, the atomic weight, molecular mass or something else? And what degree of wavelength shift do you predict? Anything plainly visible? Anything measurable?

look for it yourself

most of them questions you just posted are old news

 

[Jack by the hedge]

i cant understand you.

What is "Raman Spectrum"? how can your post reflect such missing points in science?

What exactly does this weak scattering effect have to do with your mystery claim about the double slit experiment producing different results with different screen materials?

look for it yourself

Why should I try to do an experiment which you imply is trivial but which you admit you have never done, to look for a phenomenon which you will neither define nor quantify?

Since you cannot provide any answers, I have answered my own question: shining a laser pointer onto a range of different materials (sadly no graphene available) produced the result that it looked exactly the same colour each time. QED.

I trust the laser as a source of information. It, at least, is coherent.

 

[Skwinty]

I think Bishadi may be into Quantum Philosophy.


"For me, the main purpose of doing experiments is to show people how strange quantum physics is," says Anton Zeilinger of the University of Innsbruck, who is both a theorist and experimentalist ."Most physicists are very naive; most still believe in real waves or particles."


http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/qphil.html

 

[Bishadi]

What exactly does this weak scattering effect have to do with your mystery claim about the double slit experiment producing different results with different screen materials?

this whole thread was written and you just figured that out????????

another funny post

 

[Jack by the hedge]

this whole thread was written and you just figured that out????????

another funny post

That does not address the question it responds to in any way. Another evasion. No answer to a basic question.

You're just a troll, stringing us along as far as you can. I'm bored of feeding you rope.

 

[Evilgiraffe]

I trust the laser as a source of information. It, at least, is coherent.

Nominated for pith. Good work Jack.

 

[dafydd]

this whole thread was written and you just figured that out????????

another funny post

He was not figuring anything out,he asked you a question,would you care to answer it instead of posting gibberish?

 

[Bishadi]

He was not figuring anything out,he asked you a question,would you care to answer it instead of posting gibberish?

what gibberish, if the opening posts claims the mass is relevant and you nor he comprehended that than neither belong on the thread.


if your posts are not going to be thread specific and always complimenting my good looks, then perhaps someone in moderation needs to have words with you

 

[Jack by the hedge]

what gibberish, if the opening posts claims the mass is relevant and you nor he comprehended that than neither belong on the thread.


if your posts are not going to be thread specific and always complimenting my good looks, then perhaps someone in moderation needs to have words with you

This incoherent response makes me wonder about a previous post's reference to Insane Troll Logic.

Bishadi, why should anyone try to conduct an experiment (which you imply is trivial but which you admit you have never done) to look for a phenomenon which you claim exists but which you will neither define nor quantify?

 

[Bishadi]

This incoherent response

How is it incoherant when i represented that the mass is important, which was on the opening post and you just cant comprehend it.

Bishadi, why should anyone try to conduct an experiment (which you imply is trivial

it is. But to 'quantify' it then the people who do the work can go get their nobel.

i see colors which in itself represents the mass is relevant.

I am not sure you can see colors nor read as your posts continue to rehash the same thing.

YES JACK, the mass is important and the pattern as well exchanges within the double slit experiment will be difference based on the mass/em exchange.

get over it