explain why wave-particle duality is nonsense?

[aleCcowaN]

The easy way of playing the victim ...

... learn more and build bridges for others.

You seem to be here burning all of them... and the Library of Alexandria too.

ie.... knowledge evolves and 'we all' are just as important, capable and even more capable (internet) than any time in all history.

And we have a pretty good idea about how a drone looks like within these modern hives

why is the double-slit experiment kind of like 'non-sense' in this day and age?

perhaps because we all are far more capable to describe it, then the old timers still 'walking the planck'..................

We got it hundreds of posts ago: it is "nonsense" because it raises conclusions that burn the Brooklyn Bridge title deed you're trying to sell here.

think of platos cave (allegory) within the context of 'walking the planck'; that jump will drown the best of them, return to planting both feet on the ground (addressing the benchmarks) and learn how to swim first.

ie... we can still build with QM (the infrastructure exists), but to go to the next level of science, to core principles of how it all works, then we all (the children especially) can address every ailment and phenomenon known to mankind.


There is nothign ironic about enabling people to think and often to comprehend life is not best understood by a preacher, like wise often to understand how to tie your shoe is not best found by learning from a physicist.

Very confusing, but it look like Plato's Cave became some way a part of Club Med. The rest is a calling for leaving scores to jazz bands and engage in a worldwide jam band with Physics ... and the kids! oh, the kids!!!! They are the future ... I love all the kids.

the double slit experiment is evidencing itself obsolete simply by each comprehending that the mass itself is relevant to the outcome.

New definition of comprehend = accept without evidence just because the preacher says to

I did nothing but offer a venue for each to think versus trying to be selfish or get my name in print.

Your motivations are beyond reproach

By the way, your name in "print" is usually near the label "banned" throughout the Internet ... oh! my mistake, also near the label "account suspended".

 

[Bishadi]

The easy way of playing the victim ...



You seem to be here burning all of them... and the Library of Alexandria too.



And we have a pretty good idea about how a drone looks like within these modern hives



We got it hundreds of posts ago: it is "nonsense" because it raises conclusions that burn the Brooklyn Bridge title deed you're trying to sell here.




Very confusing, but it look like Plato's Cave became some way a part of Club Med. The rest is a calling for leaving scores to jazz bands and engage in a worldwide jam band with Physics ... and the kids! oh, the kids!!!! They are the future ... I love all the kids.



New definition of comprehend = accept without evidence just because the preacher says to

Your motivations are beyond reproach

By the way, your name in "print" is usually near the label "banned" throughout the Internet ... oh! my mistake, also near the label "account suspended".

kind of like yur MO of just trolling threads to try and discredit the person because your posts share no science except 'weaponry' with the use of words


ie... you dont have the intent to skeptically address science, you are bored with science being that you think you know it all.


If your posted rendered anything credible to science you could be held as a quality contributor but instead, you prefer to use the bigot method of attacking the human being versus the thread.

 

[aleCcowaN]

kind of like yur MO of just trolling threads to try and discredit the person because your posts share no science except 'weaponry' with the use of words


ie... you dont have the intent to skeptically address science, you are bored with science being that you think you know it all.


If your posted rendered anything credible to science you could be held as a quality contributor but instead, you prefer to use the bigot method of attacking the human being versus the thread.

http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=15579

and you left alone

http://engforum.pravda.ru/search.php?searchid=383652

and landing here the next day, that says it all.

Simply address the subject (the fact that you start a thread doesn't make you the owner and lord tenant). Stop making silly remarks and describe the experiments, provide diagrams, state quantities, so there is something to discuss. Provide the math or give in (good links and cut&paste will suffice). Make an effort to speak the lingua francae in this forum, as I'm sure there are pretty good English-Arabic/Urdu/Bengal dictionaries on-line (or whichever is your mother tongue). Don't hide in mumbled words every time a forum member catch you in a more-than-wrong assertion.

Do what you have to do and you'll see any resistance vanished. But all the "banned" labels you know what they mean, and so do we, so stop fooling yourself because you don't fool anyone here.

 

[X]

Is it just me, or has Bishadi conflated the concept of an element with mass?

He seems to view mass as being an intrinsic property specific to an element, i.e. atomic weight.

It's not the first time he seems to have done this, either. Just look at his posts about black bodies, which he demands be perfectly black (as opposed to non-reflecting).

Does anyone else thing that, on these points at least, we're talking past a large language barrier?

Mind you, given his refusal to provide any evidence at all for his claims, is it worth trying to clarify one small area of his evident confusion?

 

[Bishadi]

http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=15579

what did you provide evidence for? That the unevolved, like your posting represents, dont like me?

and you left alone

and sit here alone too

http://engforum.pravda.ru/search.php?searchid=383652

and landing here the next day, that says it all.

been on the russian site for years.

have you observed all the SCIENCE coming from RUSSIA and all over the world?

Simply address the subject (the fact that you start a thread doesn't make you the owner and lord tenant).

just like the material on where i was banned from is not 'owned'

but only a person of nasty intent is strictly using the methedology of descreding another just because others haved.

you have no grounds scientifically speaking!

Stop making silly remarks and describe the experiments,

the experiment is easy, and you know it but you want to rant versus do it

ie.... to comprehend the implications just ruins your whole day and since it is stupid easy by logic alone means you must resort to bigotry and corrupt venues versus being scientific (honest)

provide diagrams, state quantities, so there is something to discuss. Provide the math or give in (good links and cut&paste will suffice).

do you actually believe insults, pain and character attacks will provoke me to do anything of the such?

Make an effort to speak the lingua francae in this forum,

to you, the lingua is to attack people who dont believe as you.

kind of religious if you asked me.

and i will not even guess which form of corruption you adher to because as these last posts share, you have no moral fiber (character) that is grounded in empathy

as I'm sure there are pretty good English-Arabic/Urdu/Bengal dictionaries on-line (or whichever is your mother tongue). Don't hide in mumbled words every time a forum member catch you in a more-than-wrong assertion.

again............. you try to insult but this thread and the experiment are already making waves and there is not a dam thing in the whole world you can do about it.

ie.... and just imagine how a guy like me would treat people who follow the path of trying to discredit someone's character with the type of posts you perform. I have my own feelings to witness as to how such bigotry is a cancer to mankind.

Do what you have to do and you'll see any resistance vanished. But all the "banned" labels you know what they mean, and so do we, so stop fooling yourself because you don't fool anyone here.

i dont need to fool with anyone

it aint me looking up YOU to try and tell others, that others dont like you

i could care less, as i am pointing out your actions are what you are

and if you are not on this thread for a scientific discussion but prefer attacking me as a person, then anyone can see why much of science is stymied by the corrupt of mind.


Your posts are the evidence and you posted them.

How about using science to discredit science otherwise, you will lose simply by the selfishness of your intent (the loss to the common)?

 

[Bishadi]

Is it just me, or has Bishadi conflated the concept of an element with mass?

how about the old timers who believe mass is elements with speed on it?

have you ever wondered how stupid that is?

He seems to view mass as being an intrinsic property specific to an element, i.e. atomic weight.

you may, but i see mass as matter/elements/molecules. As the weight is just a description based on the environment (ie.. the weight on earth versus the moon will be different)

It's not the first time he seems to have done this, either. Just look at his posts about black bodies, which he demands be perfectly black (as opposed to non-reflecting).

Sorry, that is not me you are talking about as to me, black is not a 'non-reflecting' or absorbing or some stuff. The black is the description of the elements based on what energy is emitted.

Heck white could be black in the dark.

just like the whole night sky is not black as there is no where within the universe between any points of mass (matter) that is void of em (light) (postulate)

Does anyone else thing that, on these points at least, we're talking past a large language barrier?

sure, many of the posters cant read.

or spell

Mind you, given his refusal to provide any evidence at all for his claims, is it worth trying to clarify one small area of his evident confusion?

The best value could be that the readers check themselves before posting.

Then less confusion when trying to lie to themselves.

I posted up a method most any can test themselves, if you cannot comprehend that, then check your own basic knowledge before posting.


ie.... how many comprehend the double slit experiment? is it easy or does it require all these posters to mislead, discredit, lie and even try to insult a person, when anyone can read and observe the evidence themselves.

heck i would rather be capable of comprehending reality myself, then having to have a bunch of rude people tell me they know better and to beleive them.


if you do not comprehend the thread and have read it to assist you in running the experiment yourself, then just say so and perhaps ask othes if they can.

AS i will bet any who run it, wil see the truth all by themselves.

 

[aleCcowaN]

provide diagrams, state quantities, so there is something to discuss. Provide the math or give in (good links and cut&paste will suffice).

do you actually believe insults, pain and character attacks will provoke me to do anything of the such?

Always the same lame excuse. You wouldn't when asked nicely, you won't no matter what. Those "wouldn't" and "won't" just disguise the fact that you CAN'T call or produce the slightest hard reference in support of your speech. A few posts above one forum member is trying to rescue a shred of your gibberish and make sense of it asking help from all the forum, and you answer him with your usual smoke screens and subdued-by-banning-experience bullying.

What this thread confirm is that you don't have the faintest idea of what wave-particle duality is no matter you support that concept or not.

The other thing is that you use language barrier as an excuse and even foster it that way. In this thread you used more than 6 months ago the same unenglish constructions you are using here "energy upon mass" and a lot of your trademarked gibberish. If you declare a home in the USA, are traveling them and declare an interest on this subject you surely could come to better worded expressions than "energy upon the mass", "walk the planck", "mass does the raman" and your theory of the unified casimir. The fact you didn't only proves that you exploit the confusion you create on purpose the same way a conjurer divert his public.

You have had nothing essential or innovative to say, but you not said it loudly.

 

[dafydd]

anyone on a computer can fail the turing test

as the reason is without (observational) emotion, many cannot tell the difference

i have no emotion for bs but live on the pursuit of life (the good)

because of the intent is only to enable each to think for themselves.

This experiment is unique as it means anyone here can run it and see for themselves. The lay, by simply observing the colors; the well equiped lab, by noting the electron (particle/wave aspect) patterns (differences)

the detecting mass (matter) is relevant and completely over turns a key set of benchmarks.

nothing negative is happening except that now and especially with the internet, any of the old definitions of evidence can be bridged and combined simply by comprehending the principles of this experiment (the association of the mass/energy/time) within a system and remaining causal to the associations (entanglements).

Some of you might like the games of arguing.

i know the evolution of knowledge and while swimming in it, making big waves from a little tap on the surface. (just imagine what this experiment will actually do (the globes knowledge), once the ripples combine).

no turing for me as to comprehend the pursue of the time spent, you may learn the word 'integrity' and that root empathy we all possess.

some day a few will know who

but few care, to do what they know is true

even if is messes with the created you know who

think, if each of your claims you would hold true

then find yourself looking in the mirror with another who

i am equal, are you?

You are not making sense.What does that word salad mean? Can you find someone who can translate it into English?

 

[dafydd]

How about using science to discredit science otherwise, you will lose simply by the selfishness of your intent (the loss to the common)?

Give us some science to discuss.What does ''you will lose simply by the selfishness of your intent (the loss to the common)''mean? That is not English.

 

[Bishadi]

Always the same lame excuse. You wouldn't when asked nicely, you won't no matter what. Those "wouldn't" and "won't" just disguise the fact that you CAN'T call or produce the slightest hard reference in support of your speech. A few posts above one forum member is trying to rescue a shred of your gibberish and make sense of it asking help from all the forum, and you answer him with your usual smoke screens and subdued-by-banning-experience bullying.

What this thread confirm is that you don't have the faintest idea of what wave-particle duality is no matter you support that concept or not.

The other thing is that you use language barrier as an excuse and even foster it that way. In this thread you used more than 6 months ago the same unenglish constructions you are using here "energy upon mass" and a lot of your trademarked gibberish. If you declare a home in the USA, are traveling them and declare an interest on this subject you surely could come to better worded expressions than "energy upon the mass", "walk the planck", "mass does the raman" and your theory of the unified casimir. The fact you didn't only proves that you exploit the confusion you create on purpose the same way a conjurer divert his public.

all that rant on my english and even to the point of discounting a simple experiment that kids can do in the garage

but then the experiment is rendered to the level of the outcome of even the most advanced in which an electron gun would be required and the pattern and the single particle point of observing the patterns will change by changing the detector.

all of these parameters are mentioned within this thread

and you right this as you last line about 'conveying' or language

You have had nothing essential or innovative to say, but you not said it loudly.

 

[Bishadi]

Give us some science to discuss.What does ''you will lose simply by the selfishness of your intent (the loss to the common)''mean? That is not English.

all of it is in english and the experiment is in english


but the selfish will impose ignorance that may damage the intent of others to seek the truth of the matter.

YOUR posts and the fools rendering on this page are invoking a 'loss to the common' by misleading folks that this thread and experiment is actually incomplete to unfold the actual nature of how the currrent paradigm is viewed.


there is nothing incomplete except that some do not have the integrity that others do.


anyone who reads this thread will know exactly what you are!

 

[dafydd]

how about the old timers who believe mass is elements with speed on it?
.

Name some of the old timers."Mass is elements with speed on it?" More gibberish.

 

[dafydd]

all of it is in english and the experiment is in english


but the selfish will impose ignorance that may damage the intent of others to seek the truth of the matter.

YOUR posts and the fools rendering on this page are invoking a 'loss to the common' by misleading folks that this thread and experiment is actually incomplete to unfold the actual nature of how the currrent paradigm is viewed.


there is nothing incomplete except that some do not have the integrity that others do.


anyone who reads this thread will know exactly what you are!

No,they won't,but we all know what you are.

 

[dafydd]

all of it is in english and the experiment is in english


but the selfish will impose ignorance that may damage the intent of others to seek the truth of the matter.

YOUR posts and the fools rendering on this page are invoking a 'loss to the common' by misleading folks that this thread and experiment is actually incomplete to unfold the actual nature of how the currrent paradigm is viewed.


there is nothing incomplete except that some do not have the integrity that others do.


anyone who reads this thread will know exactly what you are!

It must be wonderful to be the only non-fool in the world.What does it feel like to be an omniscient genius? You can look up the word omniscient in a dictionary.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

The other thing is that you use language barrier as an excuse and even foster it that way. In this thread you used more than 6 months ago the same unenglish constructions you are using here "energy upon mass" and a lot of your trademarked gibberish. If you declare a home in the USA, are traveling them and declare an interest on this subject you surely could come to better worded expressions than "energy upon the mass", "walk the planck", "mass does the raman" and your theory of the unified casimir. The fact you didn't only proves that you exploit the confusion you create on purpose the same way a conjurer divert his public.

Well said. This nicely encapsulates what Bishadi has been doing in his various theads for several days now.

Since it appears that Bishadi has decided to ignore the fact that his claim about the double slit experiment has been tested and found to be false, I think it is very important that, if this mortally wounded thread crawls on any further, it should regularly be pointed out that Bishadi's claim about the double slit experiment has been tested, and is false.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

all of it is in english and the experiment is in english

The individual words may be english, but they are not put together in an order which makes sense.

Is there perhaps another language in which you can write grammatical sentences?

 

[dafydd]

Well said. This nicely encapsulates what Bishadi has been doing in his various theads for several days now.

Since it appears that Bishadi has decided to ignore the fact that his claim about the double slit experiment has been tested and found to be false, I think it is very important that, if this mortally wounded thread crawls on any further, it should regularly be pointed out that Bishadi's claim about the double slit experiment has been tested, and is false.

Yes,make sure he never forgets it.He is wrong,that doesn't fit into his self-image,but he is wrong.End of story.

 

[dafydd]

The individual words may be english, but they are not put together in an order which makes sense.

Is there perhaps another language in which you can write grammatical sentences?

Or he could employ an infinite number of monkeys to type for him.We may get a coherent sentence.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

all that rant on my english and even to the point of discounting a simple experiment that kids can do in the garage

Untrue. The experiment has not been discounted; it has been performed. The result is that your assertion that the patterns will change by changing the detector have been observed to be false. Therefore you are wrong. Get over yourself.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Or he could employ an infinite number of monkeys to type for him.We may get a coherent sentence.

"There is another theory which says that this has already happened."