Explain how homeopathy is better for:

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

ANyway - you said you saved a copy of the post so can you post it all and then please give any reason whatsoever as to why you would claim that it "galled" me to recommend the antibiotics?

Well, why couldn't homeopathy do the job on its own? Doesn't antibiotic treatment just suppress the real disease, whatever that means. You know fellow homeopaths follow that reasoning, why not you?

Suggest you regard this as number 11 on the list of questions.

 

[Prester John]

I mean only here

http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com//forum_posts.asp?TID=1646&PN=1&TPN=2

You were declaring how good homeopathy was for treating infectious diseases, so why the need for antibiotics ?

 

[Chris Haynes]

... In fact, if ya ever have a question for me about what I do feel free to ask me, ..

How about answering the question in the first few posts of this thread... I am particularly interested in what your answer is for #8 in the first thread.

And along with that... please explain what Avogadro's Number is and why it would have significance in homepathic remedies.

 

[Barbrae]

Hi Prester - what, no welcome back party for me?

Listen, I just took a quick glance at your questions and will give them a shot but we are leaving for an impromtu trip for a few days so if you may not hear from me before the 5th. I let you know this because I know if I didn't answer within hours of your post - the bashing would most certainly start about me avoiding the questions.

Also - I will answer according to my beliefs but I do not speak for any other homeopath other than myself.

 

[LostAngeles]

Well, the exponent IS wrong, but you have enough right digits sorta in the right place. And you are on the right track with the relevance too.

But please, no more prompting from the peanut-gallery. This is one for Kumar to answer.

Kumar???

Whoops. Well, I figured Kumar had "moved on" and I figured I'd show that an "idiot in some areas" can produce an answer relevant to his expertise if you just read and UNDERSTAND!

ENDKUMAR

 

[Barbrae]

Hey wait - I asked you a question first BSM - what in my post makes you say it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics? Please repost what I had written and verify your statemnt with my comments on how it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics. It's important because certain implications are made when you say that.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Hey wait - I asked you a question first BSM - what in my post makes you say it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics? Please repost what I had written and verify your statemnt with my comments on how it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics. It's important because certain implications are made when you say that.

Oh, I don't know. I guess I just extrapolated from the general air of blinkered triumphalism that hovers around every homeopathic post I have ever read. So it doesn't gall you? Fair enough. If you say it doesn't bother you that homeopathy is not safe to treat this condition i'll take your word for it. Why does homeopathy lack the ability to treat this condition safely?

I do rather feel that quibbling over one reaction imputed by me rather pales into insignificance against the rather larger issues with which we are dealing.

(edited for typo)

 

[Chris Haynes]

Hey wait - I asked you a question first BSM - what in my post makes you say it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics? Please repost what I had written and verify your statemnt with my comments on how it "galled" me to recommend antibiotics. It's important because certain implications are made when you say that.

Please start a new thread on that topic... And then answer the question in the title of this thread:

Explain how homeopathy is better for:

1) neonatal spasms, also known as infantile seizures

2) severe croup

3) strep throat

4) oral motor dyspraxia with some functional dysarthria

5) developmental dysphasia

6) pink eye or stye

7) contact dermatitis with eczema

8) allergic rhinitis (hayfever, achoo!!)

9) chicken pox

8) hypertrophic cardiomyopathy

9) breast infections

10) bladder infections (male and female)

11) mumps (I mostly remember not being able to swallow)

12) Bi-polar delusions

13) depression

14) migraine headaches

15) severe head trauma (10+ foot fall on concrete)

16) sprained ankles and wrist (at different times)

17) broken bones

18) bacterial pneumonia

19) bronchitis

20) Rheumatoid Arthritis

21) Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, http://www.ehlers-danlos.org/

22) asthma

23) strabisimus (crossed eyes)

24) haemophilia (didn't a patient die from that in the hpathy forum?

25) cystic fibrosis

26) Addison's

For the conditions that are self limiting (like the broken bones, viral infections and things that are grown out of like croup) I want to know how homeopathy drastically cuts down the healing time... "So if you take this remedy your cold will go away in 14 days, otherwise it will take two weeks".

 

[Prester John]

HELLO

HELLO

HELLO

HELLO

Funny echo in here, dammit where have all the homeopaths gone? (Barb excused)

Questions a little too taxing methinks

 

[Kumar]

Please start a new thread on that topic... And then answer the question in the title of this thread:

Explain how homeopathy is better for:

1) neonatal spasms, also known as infantile seizures

2) severe croup

3) strep throat

4) oral motor dyspraxia with some functional dysarthria

5) developmental dysphasia

6) pink eye or stye

7) contact dermatitis with eczema

8) allergic rhinitis (hayfever, achoo!!)

9) chicken pox

8) hypertrophic cardiomyopathy

9) breast infections

10) bladder infections (male and female)

11) mumps (I mostly remember not being able to swallow)

12) Bi-polar delusions

13) depression

14) migraine headaches

15) severe head trauma (10+ foot fall on concrete)

16) sprained ankles and wrist (at different times)

17) broken bones

18) bacterial pneumonia

19) bronchitis

20) Rheumatoid Arthritis

21) Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, http://www.ehlers-danlos.org/

22) asthma

23) strabisimus (crossed eyes)

24) haemophilia (didn't a patient die from that in the hpathy forum?

25) cystic fibrosis

26) Addison's

For the conditions that are self limiting (like the broken bones, viral infections and things that are grown out of like croup) I want to know how homeopathy drastically cuts down the healing time... "So if you take this remedy your cold will go away in 14 days, otherwise it will take two weeks".

Simple awnser. If correct remedy is selected then it will not leave side/adverse/toxic effects in you.

 

[Rolfe]

Simple awnser. If correct remedy is selected then it will not leave side/adverse/toxic effects in you.

But will it cure the disease?

Kumar, do you know what Addison's disease is?

And while we're at it, what about all those "aggravations" and unpleasant "provings" we read about following the taking of homoeopathic remedies? These sound pretty adverse to me.

Rolfe.

 

[Kumar]

But will it cure the disease?

Kumar, do you know what Addison's disease is?

And while we're at it, what about all those "aggravations" and unpleasant "provings" we read about following the taking of homoeopathic remedies? These sound pretty adverse to me.

Rolfe.

It depends upon selection of proper remedy & if disease is curable. In homeopathy any functional & structure disorder which is curable-- is said to be possible provided it is by a correctly selected remedy by an experianced homeopath. Addison’s disease.

Btw, is there any sequence like tumor in gland>> excess secretion/production of harmone>> damage to glands>>lower secretion/production of hormone >>complete failure.?

 

[Rolfe]

It depends upon selection of proper remedy & if disease is curable. In homeopathy any functional & structure disorder which is curable-- is said to be possible provided it is by a correctly selected remedy by an experianced homeopath. Addison’s disease.

I know what Addison's disease is. I treat patients with it all the time. And I know that they will inevitably die if they don't get the mineralocorticoid hormones they are no longer producing for themselves.

Edited to add: This from Kumar's link, which I very much doubt if he has read.

Adrenal crisis is an extreme manifestation of symptoms of adrenal insufficiency precipiated by physical stress. Intravenous or intramuscular injection of hydrocortisone must be given immediately to sustain life. Supportive treatment for low blood pressure is usually necessary as well.

Never skip doses of medication for this condition, as life-threatening reactions may occur.

Do you know anything about it? Have you ever seen a patient (any species) with the condition?

Can homoeopathy cure a patient in an Addisonian crisis? Not in theory, practically. Not "is said to be possible", that won't do a patient any good right now. Has it ever been done?

Btw, is there any sequence like tumor in gland>> excess secretion/production of harmone>> damage to glands>>lower secretion/production of hormone >>complete failure.?

No. Patients with adrenal Cushing's disease to not progress idiopathically to Addison's disease.

Rolfe.

 

[Kumar]

Rolfe,

Replacement & supplementation is something differant than medicines. Homeopathy/any systems can not be taken as a substitute to needed replacements, supplementation & foods & it is not a property of any system.

Moreover I mentioned 'any disease which is curable'. Treatable is a differant matter.

Btw, in diabetes does it happens that damage occurs after tumor OR due to initial excess secretion of insulin?

 

[Rolfe]

Homeopathy .... can not be taken as a substitute to needed replacements....

Well, there's an interesting get-out clause.

Rolfe.

 

[Rolfe]

OK, I'll elaborate.

Here is the list of symptoms as given by Kumar's own link<ul>[*]Weakness - extreme
[*]Fatigue - muscle weakness
[*]Unintentional weight loss
[*]Nausea
[*]Vomiting
[*]Chronic diarrhea
[*]Loss of appetite
[*]Darkening of the skin - skin color, patchy<ul>[*]Unnaturally dark color in some locations[*]Paleness may also occur[/list][*]Mouth lesions on the inside of a cheek (buccal mucosa) - pigmentation
[*]Slow, sluggish, lethargic movement
[*]Changes in the blood pressure or heart rate
[*]Salt craving[/list]So, if a patient presents to a homoeopath with these symptoms, instead of getting out the materia medica and matching to the correct remedy, he can definitely be trusted to say, no, you are suffering from a deficiency for which you need supplementation, by drugs I am not authorised to prescribe. This is not a disturbance of the vital force, so get thee to an allopath!

Somehow, I doubt it.

Rolfe.

 

[Benguin]

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Originally posted by Kumar
Homeopathy .... can not be taken as a substitute to needed replacements....
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Doesn't that mean it has nothing to offer in a very large proportion of health problems?

 

[Chris Haynes]

Simple awnser. If correct remedy is selected then it will not leave side/adverse/toxic effects in you.

So for #3 you would accept the possibility of damage (like rheumatic heart problems) due to untreated bacterial infections to be a better treatment?

And for #8 the increase in blood pressure across the mitral valve is a BETTER solution? (assuming that the patient substitutes a homeopathic remedy for the already working beta-blockers).

The question was how homeopathy was BETTER for those conditions. You did NOT answer the question.

How can you even answer any of those answers? You have no clue as to what the physiology is... nor even basic high school chemistry (Avogadro's Number).

 

[Rolfe]

Kumar has agreed that homoeopathy is useless for deficiencies that need supplementation. The following are the symptoms of a potentially fatal deficiency that needs supplementation.<ul>[*]Weakness - extreme
[*]Fatigue - muscle weakness
[*]Unintentional weight loss
[*]Nausea
[*]Vomiting
[*]Chronic diarrhea
[*]Loss of appetite
[*]Darkening of the skin - skin color, patchy<ul>[*]Unnaturally dark color in some locations[*]Paleness may also occur[/list][*]Mouth lesions on the inside of a cheek (buccal mucosa) - pigmentation
[*]Slow, sluggish, lethargic movement
[*]Changes in the blood pressure or heart rate
[*]Salt craving[/list]Remember, this condition is so serious that the supplementation must be given immediately or there is a serious risk of the patient dying.

Adrenal crisis is an extreme manifestation of symptoms of adrenal insufficiency precipiated by physical stress. Intravenous or intramuscular injection of hydrocortisone must be given immediately to sustain life. Supportive treatment for low blood pressure is usually necessary as well.

Never skip doses of medication for this condition, as life-threatening reactions may occur.

So, Kumar, what will a homoeopath tell a patient who has presented with these symptoms?

And don't forget Hydrogen Cyanide's question - in what way is homoeopathy better than real medicine (for the now relatively small list of conditions which you still might agree it can treat). Absence of side-effects isn't much use if the patient dies of the actual disease. So how is homoeopathy going to treat these diseases? And "in theory, homoeopathy can cure everything with the right remedy" is not a satisfactory answer by the way. We want to know how, and we want examples of it actually having delivered the goods. (Yes I know, no such animal. But Kumar won't admit that, will he?)

Rolfe.

 

[Kumar]

Is it not related to imbalancing of salt? In biochemic litreture following symptoms are given against Addison's Disease & remedy is also mentioned which is for salt balance:

When nutrition is greatly impaired.

Tension and heat in the region of the kidneys.

Earthy complexion.

Brown spots upon the back of the hands.

Excessive mental & physical prostration.

Treambling of legs, dim vision, want of appetite

Nausea, vomating, loathing of meat

Constipation.

Aversion to motion & labor, frequent yawning & stretching.

Cold exyremities, depression of mind with irritability

vertigo on rising or on trying to walk