Exercise in Futility: Humans Understanding Time and Gravity

Crossbow said:
Sooooo, ...

I guess this means that Martians exist and that know of Einstein and the original Planet of the Apes movie.

Those whacky Martians! They are always scheming something or another.

;)
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Future Creative Tense: If they can engineer something that can digest Peroxide compounds and hard radiation they can have the technology to watch videos.
 
aleCcowaN said:
These Martians talk like they are from other planet ... (and they use more capital letters than the Germans)

I read with difficulty some lines in the OP and thought this is how epicycles may look in relativity.
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Whats an epicycle? How many wheels or tentacles?
 
Upgrade your Galaxy Simulations to Martian GTR 2.0

Are your galactic simulations using Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity GTR 1.0 screwed up? Do you find yourself asking “Where is the spiral structure”? Doe's Spock (that soulless half-breed) call your galactic simulations UNREAL ?

You can't automate the Einstein Equations, so you have to do every one by freaking hand? Trying to deal with warped space makes you want to tell Einstein to get bent?

Try GTR 2.0! Its calculations can be automated and the warping of space can be plotted. If you have a mathematical model that can calculate how the Time Rate of a mass increases as the gravitational field volume increases. A rough measure of the Time Rate is the integral of r^5 of a masses gravitational field (the volume *multiplied by r^2*(4/3Pi)) terminated by the ambient gravitational field. Integrals like these get very huge and very slow to calculate.

Contest; Be the first to get a simple mathematical model for GTR 2.0 and maybe get a constant named after you. It needs to calculate the Time Rate of a mass of known size, terminated by an ambient gravitational field. Convert the gravitational strength to the Time Flow collected by a mass?

The odd clue is that the orbital velocity past the Milgrom Point (about 1.2e-10 m s^2) appears to become a single value of radians because the spiral shape is being maintained (no windup). The velocity as given by the flat Doppler curve would indicate that the spiral should windup. The Doppler shift of a velocity is related to the local Speed of Light. So yes, the outside of the spirals velocity is fast enough to maintain the spiral shape and the flat Doppler shift is indicating a higher speed of light to go with that velocity.

Give your galactic simulations to come alive with GTR 2.0 with new (since the last Big Bang) improved gravitationally dependent Time Rates! This is the 21st century; retire Einstein’s GTR 1.0 with its truncated Time Rate of one.

GTR 2.0 predicts inflation at the beginning of the Universe. Without mass the Time Rate of the universe is infinite. When enough mass is present, the gravitational field created then slows the Time Rate down. Rapid expansion then it settles down to what we see now.

GTR 2.0 can calculate the galactic velocity curves and the flat Doppler Shift. Radians equal the velocity of the orbit past the Milgrom point. The Doppler shift equals the velocity related to the local Speed of Light. Slight retardation or rearward shift of outer leading edge, by higher gravitational field just inside of its orbit, to form the spiral appearance.

GTR 2.0 explains the apparent “Dark Energy” in the universe. As mass becomes diluted by expanding into more space, the mass (galaxies) pull in more time so the universe’s expansion speeds up.

Get rid of your “Gumby”TM galactic simulations and upgrade to GTR 2.0 and “Simulate a Real Galaxy” TM.

Try GTR 2.0 for free and if you like it pay 100 Quatloos for a licensed copy (avoiding the Nag Screens and Planetary Bombardment) to Utopia Planitia Licensing using Solar System PayPal UPL@mars.sol.com.
 
Let's say I trip and it takes me 1.25 seconds to faceplant on the sidewalk. I understand what caused me to fall and hit my face, and I understand that it was not instantaneous. Therefore, I understand both time and gravity.

Next thread?
 
Mister Earl said:
Let's say I trip and it takes me 1.25 seconds to faceplant on the sidewalk. I understand what caused me to fall and hit my face, and I understand that it was not instantaneous. Therefore, I understand both time and gravity.

Next thread?
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Don't forget the sudden stop at the end. Now you understand electromagnetism!
 
psionl0 said:
Actually it's not a sudden stop but a rapid deceleration while the ground re-shapes your face.

I don't understand the electromagnetism reference though.
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You don't actually touch the ground--your atoms don't actually make contact with the atoms of the ground. What happens is that the repulsive forces between nuclei and electron clouds become strong enough to overcome the force compressing the two bodies. So you can't actually touch ANYTHING; what you "feel" is actually electromagnetic repulsion.

At least, that's my understanding. I'm hoping someone will point out any errors I've made; that's why I posted it. :)
 
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