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(Ex CIA) Ray McGovern warns of imminent false flag attack

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http://www.radiodujour.com/people/mcgovern_ray/mp3/20080625_alexjones_raymcgovern.mp3

"Imminent" actually means over the next 2 months.

The scenario he posits is Israel dressing up a ship to look like it's Iranian, and then sinking a US destroyer. Personally, I think a false flag operation of this type is more likely to involve US operatives. I mean, how many Israeli boats do you hear about in the Persian Gulf? I don't go fishing there, so maybe there's lots of them, but I've never heard of any.

What I'd like to know is if the war gamers who are gaming attacks on Iran have considered what happens if the Iranians respond via their Hezbollah allies, giving them nuclear materials to make, in effect, dirty rockets and missiles? If these come flying into Israel, causing a rash of birth defects, will Israelis be eager to reproduce? What, then, happens to Israel? Depopulating Israel may not concern US war gamers, but I'm sure the Israelis have a different perspective.

And what if dirty rockets become become established in terrorists' minds as a weapon of choice? Will dirty bombs be next, perhaps exploding in NYC? We've seen insurgents climb a learning curve wrt IEDs, which now also have seen a lot of use in Afghanistan. Do the war gamers ever worry about the 'lessons' that they are teaching their victims?

For a historical parallel, consider: The ancient Spartans were told by their great law giver, Lycurgus, not to have frequent campaigns against the same people, so that they not become proficient at warfare. This principle was ignored by the Spartan king Agesilaus, who had some sort of fixation on warring with Thebes. In the end, Thebes thrashed the Spartans so soundly at Leuctra (using an echelon formation that was unusual, at the time, and I believe, unknown to the Spartans), it spelled the end of Spartan dominance.

Besides all that, an attack on Iran may make it's central government disintegrate. While that may suite some war gamers or neocon lunatics, we can see from Iraq what sort of mess results when a state with no well functioning central authority nevertheless has lots of hidden weapons. With no central authority, how can ensuing factions with terrorism on their minds be suppressed? Dirty rockets that can't reach the US can still hit Israel from Lebanon. A central authority which doesn't exist can't be pressured to help suppress terrorism, or anything else.

BTW, Wayne Madsen is lately suggesting false flag ops by the Mossad in a Houston port is in the works, perhaps blowing up LNG ships.
 
Sorry, this should have been posted to the general Conspiracy forum. Moderator: please move it.
 
LNG? Lowest Nommon Gedominator? Give us a little help here.

Oh yeah. Mossad really is in the habit of bombing Texas. Uh huh.
 
So when August passes and nothing happens can I sleep better at night?

No, but you will have yet another bit of evidence (like you needed any) that people like McGovern, and others of his ilk (he is a truther), are paranoid delusionacs.

TAM:)
 
Forgive me..but we heard the same warning last year..the year before that..and the year before that.
 
Ummmm....there hasn't been a recent increase of Mossad agents signing up for dancing lessons, has there? :duck:
 
Everyone has an opinion.

Some have the idea that they are predicting a future occurence.

Given enough predictions, there is a good chance of one of them coming true (fitting the actual event, at least to some degree).

As for the rest, when the prediction does not pan out, they go on making predictions because they are still convinced they are making a "valid" prediction of a future occurence.

Since they are not advising someone who has to make decisions based on what they are advised, there are no direct consequences to being wrong, so they continue.
 
Aha. Thanks, AZCat. It's hard enough to keep track of all the dastardly deeds of Mossad without having to deal with stray acronyms.
 
Aha. Thanks, AZCat. It's hard enough to keep track of all the dastardly deeds of Mossad without having to deal with stray acronyms.

My pleasure. Anything to lessen the load. Weeding the genuine flags from the false ones takes quite a bit of time. You'd be surprised how many flags that appear genuine are not. The MLB logo is often abused, as are the other major sports and college logos. I'm not sure why the false flags are going to attack - maybe they're angry about the lack of benefits available for their kind. When was the last time you heard of a counterfeit flag being warrantied?
 
If I recall correctly at least one of Alex Jones' "predictions" never came true because "they" found out about AJ's prediction, realised he was on to them, and shut the whole thing down.

Apparently.
 
If I recall correctly at least one of Alex Jones' "predictions" never came true because "they" found out about AJ's prediction, realised he was on to them, and shut the whole thing down.

Apparently.
of course, if he predicts something and it happens hes a genious, if he predicts something and it doesnt happen, hes a hero
 

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