Elizabeth Warren Ancestry Thread

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smartcooky said:
To be fair, that was then, and this is now.... two years is an age in politics.

During the lead up to the 2016, a fair portion of the country (almost half) thought he might end up being good President. They hoped he might grow into the job. Now, all hope of that is lost.
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And the US unemployment rate is about 3.7%, the lowest rate since 1969.
 
Brainster said:
And the US unemployment rate is about 3.7%, the lowest rate since 1969.
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Well I hate to rain on your parade, but none of that fall has anything to do with Trump or any of his policies. Its more about the statistics and the way they are gathered than it is about real jobs.

The unemployment rate looks at the number of people looking for work as a proportion of your overall potential workforce. What it does not take into account is the number of people who have stopped looking for work, and effectively dropped out of the potential workforce.

”If the jobs market was truly a strong one currently, there would be a clear rush of those not in the labor force to join it. Those millions right now outside the official numbers would be moving back into them if they were given a legitimate shot at fruitful employment.”
- Jeffrey Snider, Head of Global Research at Alhambra Investments

Unfortunately, this is not happening. The share of working-age Americans who either already have jobs, or who are applying for them is continuing to slip from about 68% in 2000, to 62% now. That is not far from the 61.7% of the late 1970's.

Another indicator of unemployment is wage rates. If unemployment is truly falling as more jobs are filled, employers will be having more difficulty hiring staff, and would be offering higher wages in a competitive employment market.

Well, that ain't happening now either. It was happening right up until late 2016, but ever since then, the pace of wage growth has flattened

"In spite of the positive news on job growth and the unemployment rate, there is no evidence of an acceleration of wage growth, with year-over-year wage growth coming to 2.7 percent — roughly the same pace as we have seen over the last year. For all the talk of a labor shortage, we also are not seeing any notable uptick in average weekly hours. The length of the work week overall was unchanged in May, and it actually fell by 0.2 hours in manufacturing. If employers are really having trouble finding workers we would expect them to be getting more hours out of the workers they have, but this isn't happening."
- Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research


If you are buying into Dolt 45's double-speak about unemployment rates, then you've been duped
 
Brainster said:
And the US unemployment rate is about 3.7%, the lowest rate since 1969.
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It's a mirage. The fact is there is no real wage growth that goes along with actual low unemployment. In addition lower tax rates have not resulted in little or no investment in capital goods. Businesses are not expanding. They are not struggling to find workers. The trickle down has NOT happened. Unless that is urine from the wealthy pissing on the rest of us.

And look what has happened to the market. The gains of the entire last year have been wiped out. Mr Tarriff President has created massive uncertainty in the market.
 
Even if the deficit-ballooning tax bribe did create jobs, it wasn't worth it. At best, the jobless rate is no more that 1% lower than it would have been without the shot of meth.

The stock market correction is in anticipation of the coming recession, and it's going to be a bad one. Like coming down off a meth high.

If the Republicans were long-game-players, they would deliberately surrender their majorities in the house and senate, so the Democrats will be left holding the bag again.
 
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Back in June 2015, he made this remark about the official unemployment rate (which was then 5.5%): “Our labor participation rate was the worst since 1978…. Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20%. Don’t believe the 5.6. Don’t believe it. That’s right. A lot of people out there can’t get jobs.” And in May 2016: ”You hear a 5% unemployment rate. It’s such a phony number. That number was put in for presidents and for politicians so that they look good to the people.” A month after his victory in the US presidential elections, he was still sticking to his guns: “The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction.”
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dann said:
If he were running against a bragging, pussy-grabbing john, the sexual misconduct allegations against Franken would seem to be negligible in comparison.
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I love the idea of people keeping things in proper perspective, but don't think that is how it actually works in practice.

More like this:

Person A: Trump lied about A, B, C . . . X, Y, Z.
[A-Z are consequential matters of personal ethics or public policy.]

Person B: Oh yeah, well, Elizabeth Warren (sort of) lied about being Cherokee in a book of recipes.
 
d4m10n said:
I love the idea of people keeping things in proper perspective, but don't think that is how it actually works in practice.

More like this:

Person A: Trump lied about A, B, C . . . X, Y, Z.
[A-Z are consequential matters of personal ethics or public policy.]

Person B: Oh yeah, well, Elizabeth Warren (sort of) lied about being Cherokee in a book of recipes.
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Obama said if you like your insurance, you can keep it. They are all equally bad.
 
d4m10n said:
I love the idea of people keeping things in proper perspective, but don't think that is how it actually works in practice.

More like this:

Person A: Trump lied about A, B, C . . . X, Y, Z.
[A-Z are consequential matters of personal ethics or public policy.]

Person B: Oh yeah, well, Elizabeth Warren (sort of) lied about being Cherokee in a book of recipes.
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I think in this thread we finally got to the point where no one was seriously claiming that they could point to a single place where Warren lied, and yet they hated her for her dishonesty.

One was citing her usage of the common definition of elope as evidence for her dishonesty.

Yeah, proper perspective is lacking.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I think in this thread we finally got to the point where no one was seriously claiming that they could point to a single place where Warren lied, and yet they hated her for her dishonesty.

One was citing her usage of the common definition of elope as evidence for her dishonesty.

Yeah, proper perspective is lacking.
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Or you could surmise that most if not all Liberal educators at Harvard tend to list things about themselves that may not be exactly correct. Whether they are from Kenya or a Native American etc.....God knows what other lies are currently floating about in various campus registers elsewhere. Funny how a class of educated people think they can call into existence whatever makes them look good to the cause and nobody is supposed to question it.......Almost like they consider themselves entitled Royalty or something....I'm certain there's a name for that.
Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Or you could surmise that most if not all Liberal educators at Harvard tend to list things about themselves that may not be exactly correct. Whether they are from Kenya or a Native American etc.....God knows what other lies are currently floating about in various campus registers elsewhere. Funny how a class of educated people think they can call into existence whatever makes them look good to the cause and nobody is supposed to question it.......Almost like they consider themselves entitled Royalty or something....I'm certain there's a name for that.
Chris B.
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Your claim is interesting, as a Brit who hasn't paid too much attention to internal politics around Harvard personnel, I am unfamiliar with the examples to which you are referring.

Can you please provide me with some more details?
 
jimbob said:
Your claim is interesting, as a Brit who hasn't paid too much attention to internal politics around Harvard personnel, I am unfamiliar with the examples to which you are referring.

Can you please provide me with some more details?
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Pull up a chair; you've got long wait. Another claim that belongs in the Assfact Files.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I think in this thread we finally got to the point where no one was seriously claiming that they could point to a single place where Warren lied, and yet they hated her for her dishonesty.

One was citing her usage of the common definition of elope as evidence for her dishonesty.

Yeah, proper perspective is lacking.
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Don't forget Warren lied about her parents eloping because they had a "big formal wedding, weren't married by a JP, and went home to announce their wedding the very next day"!:rolleyes:
 
jimbob said:
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Or you could surmise that most if not all Liberal educators at Harvard tend to list things about themselves that may not be exactly correct. Whether they are from Kenya or a Native American etc.....God knows what other lies are currently floating about in various campus registers elsewhere. Funny how a class of educated people think they can call into existence whatever makes them look good to the cause and nobody is supposed to question it.......Almost like they consider themselves entitled Royalty or something....I'm certain there's a name for that.
Chris B.
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Your claim is interesting, as a Brit who hasn't paid too much attention to internal politics around Harvard personnel, I am unfamiliar with the examples to which you are referring.

Can you please provide me with some more details?
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He is pedantically correct, anyway:

surmise
verb
1. suppose that something is true without having evidence to confirm it.
 
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