Elizabeth Warren Ancestry Thread

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Thermal said:
Oh, you meanTrump was publucly challenging a claim that she didn't actually make? Thanks for clarifying.
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It showed she wasn't. Not by any tribes requirements. She is not even close to the threshold.

But its funny to watch the arguments. Apparently you missed this part:

Dean’s offices provided their lists of professors; those who had not previously provided a biographical sketch were asked to complete a new faculty questionnaire.

As for their minority status, the director states, it includes “those legal educators who stated they were members of a minority group.’’
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The Big Dog said:
In the old days, when this was a site for critical thinking, people would have analyzed the statement. I see that does not happen much anymore, but lets consider it a challenge, anyone?
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If you really believe that "You should do X" and "You should never do X" do not contradict one another, then you are choosing a very strange hill to die on.
 
Thermal said:
Oh, you meanTrump was publucly challenging a claim that she didn't actually make? Thanks for clarifying.
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wait, she didn't make that claim, but then and went and got tested and released garbage results anyway?

That is sad and hilarious!
 
If Rachel Dolezal can identify as being African-American, I certainly don't see what's wrong with Elizabeth Warren identifying as being Native American. Sure, Warren could quite possibly have less Indian in her than Dolezal has black, but isn't it what they both feel inside that really matters?!


Not until she had been teaching at Penn for two years did she authorize the university to change her personnel designation from white to Native American, the records show.

The Globe also reviewed, for the first time, a Harvard University human resources form showing that Warren first listed her ethnicity as Native American nearly five months after she started her tenured position at Harvard and 2½ years after she was there as a visiting professor and first offered the job.
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html
 
This whole thing is sort of hard to reconcile with the "Cultural Appropriation Fetish" crowd.

I can't imagine the kind of person who was crapping kittens over Johnny Depp playing Tonto or a white person wearing dreadlocks being okay with this.
 
River said:
It showed she wasn't. Not by any tribes requirements. She is not even close to the threshold.
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Tribal membership is not a requirement for ancestral DNA.

But its funny to watch the arguments.
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Yes, it is funny to see the bigot enablers bend over backwards to deny what a DNA test plainly states.

Apparently you missed this part:
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Irrelevant. Its been brought up multiple times in this thread (although we've seen how you fail to read the threads you post in) and it means nothing. She wasn't hired for her minority status, nor did she otherwise benefit from it.
 
I Am The Scum said:
If you really believe that "You should do X" and "You should never do X" do not contradict one another, then you are choosing a very strange hill to die on.
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And yet another example of the hyperpartisans whining about "but this is a skeptics forum' when we don't agree with their convoluted logic.
 
JoeMorgue said:
This whole thing is sort of hard to reconcile with the "Cultural Appropriation Fetish" crowd.

I can't imagine the kind of person who was crapping kittens over Johnny Depp playing Tonto or a white person wearing dreadlocks being okay with this.
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She didn't view it as a culture she wasn't a part of.
 
I Am The Scum said:
Did you miss the highlights?
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Nope, I saw them!

"Ha! What an idiot! She should just take the test! The fact that she's not taken a test just proves that she's lying!" and "Ha! What an idiot! She should never have taken the test!"

v.

"You should do X" and "You should never do X"

there are several differences, one is particularly crucial.
 
JoeMorgue said:
This whole thing is sort of hard to reconcile with the "Cultural Appropriation Fetish" crowd.

I can't imagine the kind of person who was crapping kittens over Johnny Depp playing Tonto or a white person wearing dreadlocks being okay with this.
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The flip side of that coin is the people barfing puppies over people crapping kittens over Johnny Depp playing tonto, are now the same people crapping kittens over Warren's ancestral (or lack there of) ties to Native American blood.


:D
 
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kookbreaker said:
Good old Conspiracy Theorist tactics: When the evidence debunks you, just dance and sing and hope nobody notices.
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There is no evidence that "debunks" me because there is no evidence. It's a fraud. Shes 1/1024 something that could be Native American and could be anyone who came across the land bridge. That means when she says her Cherokee mother had to elope because Injuns couldn't get married in those parts it was a lie.

You guys just never give up, regardless of the actual evidence. It reminds me of Zimmerman, Darren Wilson, and Amanda Knox.
 
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BrooklynBaby said:
There is no evidence that "debunks" me because there is no evidence. It's a fraud. Shes 1/1024 something that could be Native American and could be anyone who came across the land bridge. That means when she says her Cherokee mother had to elope because Injuns couldn't get married in those parts it was a lie.

You guys just never give up, regardless of the actual evidence.
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But it is somewhat entertaining to watch the gymnastics routine. Feelings mannnn, she feels NA. Does affirmative action apply to her because shes feels she is a minority?
 
River said:
But it is somewhat entertaining to watch the gymnastics routine. Feelings mannnn, she feels NA. Does affirmative action apply to her because shes feels she is a minority?
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Can you show us on the doll where Elizabeth Warren hurt you?

She claimed Native ancestry based on familial stories.
She was challenged to take a DNA test.
She took a DNA test which confirmed her familial stories.

Conservative snowflakes all upset because her claim turned out to be based in fact.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
That means when she says her Cherokee mother had to elope because Injuns couldn't get married in those parts it was a lie.
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aaannnd here we go again. She never said that - any of it. You are repeating lies, making up things she never claimed. Lies, either you yourself are lying, or you are repeating lies made by other people. Either way, that's not what she claimed.

She said they eloped because of disapproval by relatives, due to partial native ancestry.

Which might be as low as what you stated, but which may also be as high as 1/64.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
There is no evidence that "debunks" me because there is no evidence. It's a fraud. Shes 1/1024 something that could be Native American and could be anyone who came across the land bridge. That means when she says her Cherokee mother had to elope because Injuns couldn't get married in those parts it was a lie.

You guys just never give up, regardless of the actual evidence. It reminds me of Zimmerman, Darren Wilson, and Amanda Knox.
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If they crossed the land bridge, isn't that native American?

Also, not a lie if she believed it.
 
Shalamar said:
Can you show us on the doll where Elizabeth Warren hurt you?

She claimed Native ancestry based on familial stories.
She was challenged to take a DNA test.
She took a DNA test which confirmed her familial stories.

Conservative snowflakes all upset because her claim turned out to be based in fact.
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It doesn't confirm the stories.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
There is no evidence that "debunks" me because there is no evidence. It's a fraud.
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Really. You find DNA evidence to be a fraud.

Shes 1/1024 something that could be Native American and could be anyone who came across the land bridge.
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Tell me, who else came over the land-bridge?

That means when she says her Cherokee mother had to elope because Injuns couldn't get married in those parts it was a lie.
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She never said that. So who is the fraud here? Oh its you.

You guys just never give up, regardless of the actual evidence.
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Says the guy denying DNA evidence.
 
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