Elizabeth Warren Ancestry Thread

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WilliamSeger said:
Uh-huh, but you seem to be having a serious problem answering the "so what?" question. Let's be more specific: Are you suggesting that if someone says DNA testing is racist, then Warren must be a racist, so everyone who hates racism should vote for the party that has recently discovered that racism is politically popular again?

I mean, I don't want to accuse you of logical fallacies until I see whether or not you have an actual argument or you're only pretending to have one.
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"Are you suggesting that if someone says DNA testing is racist".... No.

I have in fact explained why Warren's stupid stunt misusing the DNA test results was racist, and have supported it with several authoritative outside statements.

As such? Save the silly strawmen, savvy?
 
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The Big Dog said:
"Are you suggesting that if someone says DNA testing is racist".... No.

I have in fact explained why Warren's stupid stunt misusing the DNA test results was racist, and have supported it with several authoritative outside statements.

As such? Save the silly strawmen, savvy?
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Maybe we're getting closer. Are you suggesting that if someone says Warren "misused" DNA testing in a way that that person thinks is racist, then Warren must be a racist, so everyone who hates racism should vote for the party that has recently discovered that racism is politically popular again?

If I'm grasping at strawmen, it's because you're not being very helpful in answering the "so what?" question. Feel free to take another stab at it yourself. :rolleyes:
 
The Big Dog said:
"Are you suggesting that if someone says DNA testing is racist".... No.

I have in fact explained why Warren's stupid stunt misusing the DNA test results was racist, and have supported it with several authoritative outside statements.

As such? Save the silly strawmen, savvy?
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I don't care how you explain it, it was neither stupid, racist or a stunt. That you would describe it that way says one hell of a lot more about you than it does about Warren.

And still never answering the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post a 175, no 176, no but 177 times and yet I haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
 
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The Big Dog said:
I have in fact explained why Warren's stupid stunt misusing the DNA test results was racist, and have supported it with several authoritative outside statements.
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You have not explained anything. You've quoted minorities that you decided to use for political points, but you've not explained why Warren's actions are racist.

In your own words, that is.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Maybe we're getting closer. Are you suggesting that if someone says Warren "misused" DNA testing in a way that that person thinks is racist, then Warren must be a racist, so everyone who hates racism should vote for the party that has recently discovered that racism is politically popular again?

If I'm grasping at strawmen, it's because you're not being very helpful in answering the "so what?" question. Feel free to take another stab at it yourself. :rolleyes:
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Actually, I and numerous others have, and there is absolutely no need for strawmen at all, not in the slightest! I get that you did not read the articles I posted.

And rather than saying that silly stuff about the "party" one can say instead that by virtue of this silly stunt, Warren has disqualified herself for the 2020 campaign for the Democratic nomination!

Golly, it does not have to be Dems v. GOP. Zoinks, maybe we learned something?
 
The Big Dog said:
Actually, I and numerous others have, and there is absolutely no need for strawmen at all, not in the slightest! I get that you did not read the articles I posted.
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You keep saying you have, but you HAVEN'T!

Pointing others to Breitbart articles is not the same thing.

And still never answering the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post a 175, no, 176, no, 177, no, but 178 times and yet we haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
 
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acbytesla said:
You keep saying you have, but you HAVEN'T!

Pointing others to Breitbart articles is not the same thing.

And still never answering the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post a 175, no, 176, no, 177, no, but 178 times and yet we haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
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Not sure i understand the hysterical tone, but the statements i linked to were not in Breitbart, and your repeated statements are demonstrably false.

Moreover, this thread is about Warren's river of lies, and her and her supporters' racism. I get that you are desperate to derail this discussion with "flashy" bolding, blatant lies and borderline hysterical rhetoric, but we are going to try to muddle through.

Anything about Warren then? No? cool cool.
 
The Big Dog said:
Not sure i understand the hysterical tone, but the statements i linked to were not in Breitbart, and your repeated statements are demonstrably false.
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There is no hystery and you sending everyone on a wild goose chase to outside links most if which have been Breitbart does not make my statements demonstrably false.

I still haven't seen you write a coherent reason why you say Warren's claim of having some Native American ancestry is racist. Want to try again?

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Moreover, this thread is about Warren's river of lies, and her and her supporters' racism. I get that you are desperate to derail this discussion with "flashy" bolding, blatant lies and borderline hysterical rhetoric, but we are going to try to muddle through.

Anything about Warren then? No? cool cool.
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Never mind that you cannot prove a single lie by Warren. Let alone suggest a river of them.

There is no mystery. You just don't care that I am effectively destroying your moronic and blatantly dishonest and hypocritical arguments about Warren. You think that you can smear a public servant who has worked tirelessly to protect consumers with absolute impunity and lies. You are sadly mistaken.

And FYI, this is not an attempt to derail. It's about reason and proportionality.

And still never answering the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post a 175, no, 176, no, 177, no178, no but 179 times and yet we haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
 
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phiwum said:
Tried to read the blog. Evidently, "Hans Bader" thinks that using paragraphs to organize thoughts is elitist.

What is wrong with people? Why can't they write coherently any more?

Well, what do you expect from a group that argues climate change is a change for the better and CO2 is a positive effect. A deep thinking think tank, no doubt, and eventually they will learn how paragraphs are useful.

I recognize that this may sound like an ad hom or poisoning the well, but I'm afraid that I won't read a wall of text, hoping for a well-thought argument.
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1.The blog is 6 years old, I think it might be formatting conversion, his other blogs have paragraphs.
2.Bader is a Harvard grad, who also worked with Freid. (The guy who said they didn't use race as a basis for hiring Warren)
3. He provides first hand knowledge of lawsuits forcing Harvard to hire and promote minority candidates at the same time Warren was hired.
 
Okay Big Dog answer this.

What should happen now? Even within your own version of the events... what should happen now?
 
I know this is a bit of a long shot, but I'm not really keeping up with this thread much, so I'll just ask anyway:

Is there any credible evidence that Warren benefited in any material way during her career by noting her Native American ancestry?

I mean other than the massive royalty check from the cookbook and the tenure that she earned prior to ever mentioning it, of course. I've got those two down solid.

Because if TBD and his cracker research item over at Brietbart haven't found that smoking gun yet, I'm feeling plenty confident that it doesn't exist.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, as already pointed out, first, she should apologize.

Right?
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Ok maybe she should. I don't think she did anything wrong, but in politics sometimes you have to play the game in order to...


...wait, no. She should pretend that she never said any of that, that it was fabricated by the GOP. Fake news, etc.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, as already pointed out, first, she should apologize.

Right?
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Okay, let's run with that.

Elizabeth Warren goes on TV tomorrow and apologies for... any and all instances of claiming or associating with Native American heritage and culture.

Would you be satisfied then?
 
The Big Dog said:
Uh huh, say rather than defending unhinged personal attacks, can you share with us any thoughts you have regarding the substance of any article I have linked to?

I mean there is always a first time, right?
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Why DON'T you.explain in your own words, (not pointing to some aticle) why simply saying one is part Caucasian and part Native American makes one a racist?

If I said, I was part Spanish and part Irish would that make me a racist too?


And still never answering the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post a 175, no, 176, no, 177, no 178, no, 179, no but 181 times and yet we haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
 
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