Beelzebuddy
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Nah. You'll still have to bring it in every 5k miles and pay $100 just for them to turn the ominous "maintenance required" warning off.
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dudalb
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Problem Tesla has is the problem that Netflix has;It's no longer the dominant company selling the product it now has real competition and that will cut into it's market share.
novaphile
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Meanwhile, it's 2022 and I'm still enjoying my 2014 Mitsubishi PHEV every time I get into it.
Not only that, but a good chunk of the money they made was from other car companies buying regulatory credits from Tesla to comply with emissions regulations. As the other companies produce more EVs not only will they compete with Tesla, but they also can stop sending money to Tesla.
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Shalamar
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Tesla will lose market share, but their current advantage is the supercharge network. it's extensive, and crosses the country. The number one reason to get a Tesla, but we'll see what happen when the network opens up to non Teslas.
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Franchise dealership laws protected dealers so manufacturers were forced to use them. States passed laws for Tesla to sell directly, by putting in a clause for electric vehicles, so this will now allow legacy makers to start selling EVs directly to consumers.
TurkeysGhost
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Ahh, that makes sense. Wish the original story I linked mentioned that element, seems pretty important. Thanks!
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No problem, I've worked in the industry for 26 years and know some of the issues around this. Many articles like to paint legacy manufacturers as idiots by saying how great the Tesla sales model is, so they talk about the lack of adopting it. Either it is intentional or they themselves do not know the franchising laws that handcuff legacy.
I also work at a plant producing electric cars, so know a bit about them as well.
As I mentioned before, I sometimes can't help myself and I read the comments to Facebook posts about EVs.
The latest was a post about a car company testing a system that charges cars by induction as they drive over a special road.
Of course there was the usual repeating of easily debunked EV myths, but there were also a lot of comments along the lines of "how will they pay for this" and "they will have to raise our taxes to pay for it." Ugh. Either these people have never seen a toll road or they are too stupid to see the connection.
There were a couple of people claiming that it can't work because the cars will stick to the road like magnets or thinking that it was some sort of free-energy thing where the car's motion generates the electricity. One insisted it can't work because some roads are not paved!
The latest was a post about a car company testing a system that charges cars by induction as they drive over a special road.
Of course there was the usual repeating of easily debunked EV myths, but there were also a lot of comments along the lines of "how will they pay for this" and "they will have to raise our taxes to pay for it." Ugh. Either these people have never seen a toll road or they are too stupid to see the connection.
There were a couple of people claiming that it can't work because the cars will stick to the road like magnets or thinking that it was some sort of free-energy thing where the car's motion generates the electricity. One insisted it can't work because some roads are not paved!
bruto
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I can't myself picture just how this would work, but when we think about things like this we must always remember that waywayway back, when steam omnibuses were first proposed, some propelled themselves with reciprocating legs like a horse's hooves, because their inventors were convinced that a powered wheel would simply dig itself into the ground without propulsion.
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There's videos on line on demonstrations of induction charging roadways (Renaue did it, I'm sure), if I wasn't on my phone in bed I'd find and post them. I think it's the "paying for it at scale" which is the sticking point
Trebuchet
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I just took a brief trip into my small town. Saw at least eight EV's on the way out and back. Including a pair of Leafs ("Leaves" just sounds wrong for them) parked side-by-side at the supermarket. Then again, I've long referred to the place as Priusville.
Fast Eddie B
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Too bad freakin’ EVERYTHING has to be political these days.
A Facebook friend posted this:
Cute. She’s a rabid Trumper, so I should have known better, but I responded with this:
That led to a back and forth which pretty quickly turned political. I posted I didn’t want to engage in politics so I was out. The response to this:
Sigh.
A Facebook friend posted this:
Cute. She’s a rabid Trumper, so I should have known better, but I responded with this:
That led to a back and forth which pretty quickly turned political. I posted I didn’t want to engage in politics so I was out. The response to this:
Sigh.
TheGoldcountry
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I have too many questions for that. Why is January significant (new Congress?,)and wtf do electric cars have to do with masks? Do they spread viruses?
I love how profound they think their stupid ******* memes are when an 8 year-old can see how ridiculous they are. These people would be the ones arguing to stay with horses because tires cost more than shoes.
I love how profound they think their stupid ******* memes are when an 8 year-old can see how ridiculous they are. These people would be the ones arguing to stay with horses because tires cost more than shoes.
They think the battery will not operate well in the cold.
My brother drives a Tesla 3 in Minnesota. He loses about 20% range in the coldest of the winter days, but it does not change his driving habits at all, other than wearing a warm jacket and gloves to minimize heater usage.
On his 280 mile round trips from Cloquet to MSP, he starts at 100% then stops on the return trip in Hinkley for a 15 minute charge then goes home.
The people who are against EV's sure do put lots of effort into remaining ignorant about them.
My brother drives a Tesla 3 in Minnesota. He loses about 20% range in the coldest of the winter days, but it does not change his driving habits at all, other than wearing a warm jacket and gloves to minimize heater usage.
On his 280 mile round trips from Cloquet to MSP, he starts at 100% then stops on the return trip in Hinkley for a 15 minute charge then goes home.
The people who are against EV's sure do put lots of effort into remaining ignorant about them.
Fast Eddie B
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BINGO! Against my better judgment I asked, and got the response “congress goes red!” from the OP. Not exactly sure how that will render my Tesla “useless”, but there you have it.
novaphile
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I think you need better Facebook friends.
Hindsight is a fine thing, but I would have responded with:
"Yeah, that's hilarious, how stupid is that person? If their battery in their gas vehicle goes flat on the highway now, do they send for a person with a bucket of electricity?"
acbytesla
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EVs sold in 2023 will have even greater range. By the beginning of 2024 Tesla will be selling a vehicle with 750 mile range.
I guess the idea is that as soon as Congress turns red, gas will become almost free, all environmental legislation will be swept away and the government will actively discouraged EVs.
The first is nonsense, but I can definitely see the second two happening. The oil and auto lobbies are very well funded.
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