I just realized that while the Jeep is a phev, the Ford is not. It is just a mild hybrid. But, I really think they will offer it as a phev soon if Chevy and ram join the “trucks with big batteries” competition.
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The full tank every morning sounds nice.
But, I had trouble finding reliable cell signal in most of Yellowstone. (If you aren’t using Verizon it is even harder.) I sincerely wish you the best of luck on that trip. The good thing is that you won’t be burning range as you sit in traffic.
Tesla has Superchargers in Jackson Hole and West Yellowstone. Taking a Tesla to Yellowstone works but charging locations are sparse on some routes to and from the park.
Shalamar
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We're staying just outside West Yellowstone. Hotel has a destination charger, and the Supercharger across the street. Driving an EV does require a little more planning.
Wolf and Bear center in W. Yellowstone was actually really cool, if a bit pricey.
Well, I enjoyed it and the kids enjoyed it, I can't speak for any adults.
Wudang
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Also check the OLEV grant to install a charger. https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/government-grants-for-low-emission-vehicles
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I was looking at charge points the other day for a friend and the kit suppliers drive you towards the olev grants
Our Wyld Bird Seed bassist will soon be fully EV.
His wife swapped her VW Polo for an E-Golf (dubbed "The Milk Float" because it's white and has a registration ending in "UHT") nearly 2 years ago.
Next week his Jaguar XF Estate will be exchanged for an I-PACE.
His wife swapped her VW Polo for an E-Golf (dubbed "The Milk Float" because it's white and has a registration ending in "UHT") nearly 2 years ago.
Next week his Jaguar XF Estate will be exchanged for an I-PACE.
So last night Ford revealed the production version of an all-electric version of their long running F-150 full sized pickup. Now you darn furniers who don't even have the common decency to be born in 'Murica might not get the big deal but the F-150 line of trucks is the best selling vehicle in America. Not the best selling truck, the best selling vehicle. It is the most common passenger vehicle on the road in the US.
Ford claims:
- Base price of just under 40,000 grand. For reference the base i.c.e. F-150 starts at 29,000.
- 300 mile range
- 10,000 pound towing capacity
- 2,000 pound payload capacity
- 0-60 mph in the "4 second" range.
- A very large "frunk" with 120v and USB outlets and 14 cubic feet of cargo space.
- "Bluecruise" which seems to be Ford's version of auto-pilot.
- A feature which allows your truck's battery to serve as a backup for your home power if the grid goes down.
Ford claims:
- Base price of just under 40,000 grand. For reference the base i.c.e. F-150 starts at 29,000.
- 300 mile range
- 10,000 pound towing capacity
- 2,000 pound payload capacity
- 0-60 mph in the "4 second" range.
- A very large "frunk" with 120v and USB outlets and 14 cubic feet of cargo space.
- "Bluecruise" which seems to be Ford's version of auto-pilot.
- A feature which allows your truck's battery to serve as a backup for your home power if the grid goes down.
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bruto
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A popular pickup seems like the ideal vehicle for going electric. The gas versions are terribly thirsty, and they already have lots of space and weight capacity for the batteries, and a large percentage of them will be used by tradespeople who put on lots of miles but not in long stretches. A 300 mile range should work pretty well.
Having the truck able to put out line voltage power could be a real bonus for construction work.
I'd like to think too that if one can get a reasonable number of tradespeople on board with the idea of electric trucks, it will help persuade people to get electric cars too.
Good luck to Ford anyway.
Having the truck able to put out line voltage power could be a real bonus for construction work.
I'd like to think too that if one can get a reasonable number of tradespeople on board with the idea of electric trucks, it will help persuade people to get electric cars too.
Good luck to Ford anyway.
bruto
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I haven't see that thread, but I suspect that depends on how we define efficiency. It might be so if we define efficiency simply as potential energy converted into work. But if the potential energy requires a lot of preparation to get it into position to be converted (e.g. mining, transportation, peripheral energy the miners themselves use to get to work, etc.) then it might not be as efficient as using an abundant source of power that's happening whether we use it or not (e.g. solar, tide, wind, etc.)
And, of course, pollution might come into play too. If your efficient power just also happens to emit toxic smoke, then efficiency may be the wrong criterion to look at.
I'm reminded here of the hydraulic ram. For those not familiar with it, it's a pressure pump using a low pressure head of water to power an impulse pump that moves water at high pressure. In one sense of efficiency, its awful. It wastes most of the water that passes through it, in order to pump a small amount under pressure. But in another sense of efficiency it's unbeatable. In a place where water is flowing downhill anyway, it does its job with no added energy at all. It all depends on how you look at it.
You’ve put more thought into it than the claimant.
If they had a PHEV F150 with at least 50 miles of electric propulsion I’d put down a deposit. All electric won’t meet my RV towing needs very easily. Not yet, at least.
This is a huge development, though.
Shalamar
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I saw this earlier today. Looks like a good and promising EV.
I am curious on what the range hit would be when towing.
My wife mentioned that this would be the truck she would get, if we needed one. She despises the Tesla Cybertruck.
People who want a truck don’t want a cyber truck. People who want a different Tesla may want a cyber truck. I guess.
My trailer (a 5x8 enclosed) seems to cut my mpg in half when I tow it behind my SUV. The ratio would probably be about the same for the electric truck. So, I would estimate about a 150 mile range for the electric truck in town and 100 on the highway.
(EVs get better "mileage" in town because of reduced drag at lower speeds and regenerative braking mitigating losses from stop-and-go driving.)
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Shalamar
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I have a Model Y, so I know how they perform in general driving situations.
I know the Y *can* Tow, but I wouldn't attempt to tow anything more than 100 mile with a full charge, and that would be pushing it, I think.
bruto
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On towing, it will be interesting to see, but the results might be surprising.
Big powerful rigs tend to pay less penalty for heavy towing.
Big powerful rigs tend to pay less penalty for heavy towing.
arthwollipot
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I'm no car person, but isn't it true that electric motors generate a lot of torque, which is why they go like the clappers when Sleepy Joe puts his foot down? I would think that would be advantageous to towing.
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