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Cont: Electric Vehicles II

Oh, car is currently exporting to the grid. I didn't think it was allowed to. Well well

You need to be set up with VtG and an export tariff and all the permissions surrounding how low you consent to have your car's charge taken. You must have signed something!
 
I signed the stuff, but Octopus said that the local grid were delaying things and hadn't told me that had changed. I don't have an export tariff, I just have to keep the car hooked up to the charger for so many hours per month. I'm helping them test the process
 
My brother got his Tesla Model 3 back. A week ago he had it towed 150 miles to the Tesla repair shop. Two days ago he was told to come get it, it was still bricked.

He complained, Tesla offered excuses, then gave him a loaner so he could get home. Today he picked the car up; Tesla paid for the towing and the repairs were performed free of charge.
 
It only did it again, exported yesterday evening, and then charged back to beyond the target over night. I thought we'd screwed it up by taking it out for an hour during the exporting, but it's fine
 
Great to hear they're experimenting with it. There should be no issues with using the car normally.
 
Lots of people who will never own, or even see one, have decided that Ferrari have destroyed their legacy by making a $600k electric car that they don't like the look of.
 
Lots of people who will never own, or even see one, have decided that Ferrari have destroyed their legacy by making a $600k electric car that they don't like the look of.
Lots of people are idiots. Ferrari's legacy is cemented in stone. Their future, like everything is murky.
 
Lots of people who will never own, or even see one, have decided that Ferrari have destroyed their legacy by making a $600k electric car that they don't like the look of.
It is certainly a disappointing exterior. Generic Tesla look with a scoops grill. Rather meh.
The BYD Yangwang U9, on the otherhand is striking.
 
BMW has moved its fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) development on another step with the new ‘BMW Hydrogen Flat Storage’ system – a new method of storing compressed hydrogen on board vehicles.

This new approach overcomes a major barrier because it’s modular and fits into the same space in the iX5 as the ‘Gen6’ high-voltage EV battery. There’s no intrusion into cabin space as there might be with more conventional tanks and, crucially, it allows iX5 Hydrogen models to be built on the same production line as other powertrain types.

 
BMW has moved its fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) development on another step with the new ‘BMW Hydrogen Flat Storage’ system – a new method of storing compressed hydrogen on board vehicles.

This new approach overcomes a major barrier because it’s modular and fits into the same space in the iX5 as the ‘Gen6’ high-voltage EV battery. There’s no intrusion into cabin space as there might be with more conventional tanks and, crucially, it allows iX5 Hydrogen models to be built on the same production line as other powertrain types.

So? Why bother with hydrogen? It cost too much to make. It cost too much to store. Fuel cells are expensive. And how we produce hydrogen today is actually dirty.
 
So? Why bother with hydrogen? It cost too much to make. It cost too much to store. Fuel cells are expensive. And how we produce hydrogen today is actually dirty.
It's nuts. The article says:-
BMW says the iX5 FCEV’s electric motor is exactly the same as the BEV version’s. But rather than one large battery, a hydrogen fuel cell stack generates electricity drawing on hydrogen stored in on-board tanks. A small high-voltage lithium ion buffer battery provides the bursts of energy for acceleration and stores energy during regenerative braking. The new Hydrogen Flat Storage system holds enough compressed hydrogen at a pressure of 700 bar to give the iX5 a range of 385 miles.
The BMW iX EV has a claimed range of 374 miles, almost the same as this hydrogen version but without having to waste miles driving to and from a hydrogen station to fill up (if you can find one). And it still has a high voltage battery, plus a fuel cell to convert the gas to electricity, all of which will have a limited lifespan and be prohibitively expensive to replace. The only possible good news is that presumably you could swap it all out for a proper battery.
 
Toyota Chairman Reveals His Worst Fear: 'Everybody Is Shifting To EVs'
Toyota’s chairman famously said in early 2024 that EVs will never exceed 30 percent of global sales. Just a few months ago, Akio Toyoda stated there are still many places around the world where people cannot do without gas-fueled cars because charging infrastructure remains underdeveloped. But while he is a strong believer in combustion engines, the company’s former president and CEO says he now feels in the minority...
‘Everybody is shifting to EVs, this is the biggest fear for me. Three or four years ago, I was the only one to say to the media that I love smell, I love sound and I love engines, and I want to keep the jobs for engine suppliers. But it seems to me that I’m the only one. I feel very alone.’
According to the IEA 25% of cars sales in 2025 were electric, 5% more than the previous year. It may exceed 30% this year.
 
It's the wicked waste of money and effort that bugs me about hydrogen. I mean, it's obviously never going to work, and it always was obvious it would never work.
 
BMW has moved its fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) development on another step with the new ‘BMW Hydrogen Flat Storage’ system – a new method of storing compressed hydrogen on board vehicles.

This new approach overcomes a major barrier because it’s modular and fits into the same space in the iX5 as the ‘Gen6’ high-voltage EV battery. There’s no intrusion into cabin space as there might be with more conventional tanks and, crucially, it allows iX5 Hydrogen models to be built on the same production line as other powertrain types.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ckaging-puzzle-build-fcev-and-ev-ix5-together
Interesting and good engineering, but why? I could just about understand it if it greatly increased the range of a vehicle but this only gives it the range of an average electric car. Where is going to build out a hydrogen infrastructure, it's expensive enough to buildout the infrastructure for electric vehicles and they only need a connection to the already existing electricity grid. It can be refilled quickly but even that is being addressed with the latest batteries.
 
Interesting and good engineering, but why? I could just about understand it if it greatly increased the range of a vehicle but this only gives it the range of an average electric car. Where is going to build out a hydrogen infrastructure, it's expensive enough to buildout the infrastructure for electric vehicles and they only need a connection to the already existing electricity grid. It can be refilled quickly but even that is being addressed with the latest batteries.
A podcast I was listening to yesterday said that there is a grand total of two hydrogen filling stations open to the public in the UK. There are already more public EV charging stations than there are petrol stations (or possibly more public chargers than petrol pumps, which is not substantially different). The main thing preventing adoption of EVs by a significant proportion of the public is lack of driveway charging (due to lack of driveways). Here it's a postcode lottery; some councils allow digging a groove across pavements to allow kerbside charging, others don't.
 
Even without a driveway it's still easier to take the car to a public charger than to find a source of hydrogen.
 

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