Electric universe theories here.

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Yet more lies and insanity that the mainstream is ignorant from Sol88

No, mainstream ignorance. ...

Yet more lies and insanity that the mainstream is ignorant from Sol88.

The mainstream has textbook physics are the real universe supporting it.

Ulysses did not detect the electric currents in the EU insanity about the Sun being externally powered by galactic electric currents.

An insane "black hole jets are electric currents" lie when black hole jets are observed to be accelatered jets of plasma.

Usual "mathamagics" insanity when what shows that the EU is deluded is the EU having just about no mathematics .

 

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Usual insanely stupid questions to derail from EU insanity from Sol88

Is there a potential difference between the solar wind and the comet nucleus?

Usual insanely stupid questions to derail from EU insanity from Sol88. See the hundreds or thousands of similar posts in the other thread. The thousands of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma

His cult's electric comet dogma is not about the solar wind. Sol88's insane religious cult has the dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

 

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Yet another lie from Sol88 with a deluded Thunderbolts cult propaganda video

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Yet another lie from Sol88 with a deluded Thunderbolts cult propaganda video.

That is not scientific literature. The deluded Donald Scott managed to get a paper published with a vision that Birkeland currents have "counterrotating cylindrical shells". The Thunderbolts cult have the insanity that Birkeland currents appear everywhere they imagine. So they have make a deluded propaganda video with the insanity that counter rotating discs of gas around a supermassive black hole are related to their delusions about Birkeland currents.

Going against the flow around a supermassive black hole

 

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Insane lie from Sol88 when Sol88 knows about Wal Thornhill's 14 years of lies

Outplayed by a crank!...

An insane lie from Sol88 when Sol88 knows about the demented Wal Thornhill's 14 years of lies about Deep Impact on comet Tempel 1.

Before 2005, Wal Thornhill wrote the deluded predictions that there could be a flash before impact and a flash after impact. A press release reported 2 flashes. Scientific analysis of the images showed two flashes after impact as predicted in experiments. Wal Thornhill has insanely claimed this as a confirmed prediction for 14 years. Wal Thornhill has insanely claimed other debunked predictions are confirmed for 14 years !

This is part of The thousands of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.

 

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Usual insanely ignorant gibberish from Sol88

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Usual insanely ignorant gibberish from Sol88 as in The thousands of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.

Einstein did not predict black holes. Einstein write the scientific theory of general relativity that has been massively confirmed over the last century by real data. One of the predictions was black holes which were not even named until maybe the 1960s. The Schwarzschild solution said an event horizon must exist in a static solution but it took more work to show that black holes could form dynamically.

It is insane to say anything made of plasma are black holes. Plasma emits radiation. Black holes are black.

 

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Usual insanity of mainstream physics and 'god of the gaps' from Sol88

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Usual insanity of mainstream physics and 'god of the gaps' from Sol88.

The thousands of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.
Sol88's cult's electric Sun insanity makes the Sun collapse by removing the necessary internal heat source (Astronomy 101!). In their demented world is no Sun as we know it !

An overlooked piece of the solar dynamo puzzle needs the real Sun to exist. The science is about a solution to a puzzle. Magnetic instabilities are critical to many processes in the universe. The real Sun has different rotation speeds and complex floes in its interior and magnetic instabilities are expected there. This is a discovery of a new magnetic instability.

Any puzzles or gaps cannot be filled in by a demented cult's "god".

 

[Steve001]

Black holes, the ultimate gravity monster!

How do they suck everything and blow stuff out!

Have a crack!

I'm guessing you've never took time to seek the answer. Not all matter reaches the event horizon. Did you know that?

 

[Ziggurat]

Oh Ziggy, Ziggy Ziggy

The EU folks believe in Velikovsky. I don't think anything more really needs to be said. That's how absurd it all is.

 

[Sol88]

Migrating planets, what poppycock!

You know the mans on the money from the reaction of the mainstream establishment. Circle the wagons troop, we have a threat.

I mean it might be a stretch, nearly as much as snappy magnetic rubber bands!

All mainstream have left if you deny and ignore the electric force.

Still showed me your capabilities for critical thinking, Ziggurat.

 

[Sol88]

I'm guessing you've never took time to seek the answer. Not all matter reaches the event horizon. Did you know that?

Do you have the math that prove this?

 

[jonesdave116]

Migrating planets, what poppycock!

You know the mans on the money from the reaction of the mainstream establishment. Circle the wagons troop, we have a threat.

I mean it might be a stretch, nearly as much as snappy magnetic rubber bands!

All mainstream have left if you deny and ignore the electric force.

Still showed me your capabilities for critical thinking, Ziggurat.

Lol. And all this from an unqualified wooist with clue zero about any relevant science!

 

[Sol88]

Plasma has mechanism, gravity doesn’t.


Rubber bands, really?

 

[JeanTate]

Migrating planets, what poppycock!

You know the mans on the money from the reaction of the mainstream establishment. Circle the wagons troop, we have a threat.

I mean it might be a stretch, nearly as much as snappy magnetic rubber bands!

All mainstream have left if you deny and ignore the electric force.

Still showed me your capabilities for critical thinking, Ziggurat.

I’m puzzled, Sol88 ... what does this post of yours have to do with electric universe theories, the topic of this thread?

 

[JeanTate]

Do you have the math that prove this?

Surely the more important question is something like where is the evidence that active galactic nuclei contain “plasmoids”, wouldn’t you say?

As in objective, quantitative, independently verified evidence.

 

[JeanTate]

"These mechanisms"? What are "these mechanisms", and what qualifies as working? Because standard astrophysics includes plasmas and electromagnetic effects. The EU crowd tries to substitute electromagnetism for gravity and even fusion, and whenever they do, it fails. Quantitative analysis for EU theories always proves them wrong. That's why EU proponents usually stop at the level of pictures and diagrams, and never go further.

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And, sadly, Sol88 has not posted anything new in this thread.

Here at ISF, a wide variety of electric universe ideas have been posted and discussed. And, as you say, they all fail, as science.

It’s sad that we seem to be going over and over the same things, this time with Sol88.

 

[Ziggurat]

Migrating planets, what poppycock!

It's like the scientology cult. Scientologosts publicly present only the more palatable parts of their beliefs, saving the Xenu stuff for those who already buy into the less radical stuff. Velinkovsky is the Electric Universe's Xenu: they won't lead with it because they know people won't buy it, but it's what they really believe.

 

[Steve001]

Do you have the math that prove this?

Personally I don't. However, you might though I doubt you're willing to do so search the answer with an appropriate keyword web search. What I know you will do is prattle on with this electric universe nonsense. I find individuals such as yourself interesting in so far as what is the motivation that causes you to hold on so dearly to an idea that is to the entire astrophysics community known to be ludicrous. Care to enlightened us all? Oh and while you're enlightening (which is something you won't do) include EU math also something that can't be done.

 

[jonesdave116]

Surely the more important question is something like where is the evidence that active galactic nuclei contain “plasmoids”, wouldn’t you say?

As in objective, quantitative, independently verified evidence.

I'm afraid that this plasmoid woo is something that Thornhill, for one, has suggested. It can therefore be safely ignored. However, Eric Lerner, although a bit of a crank, is not usually into such obvious woo, but has also suggested it. I am loathe to link to his nonsense on Youtube (a series of 4 videos), so if you Google "black hole; plasmoid; Lerner", you'll find aforesaid woo.
I am not sure what various other cranks, such as Crothers and Robitaille, might also be saying.
I sat through the tragic nonsense of Lerner's, but was unable to see where he addressed the stellar orbital data. Surely even he knows that there cannot be much, if any, charge on a star? For obvious reasons. Maybe the EHT image was the final straw for him, and he's gone full crank. Who knows?

 

[Steve]

Electric universe theories here

10 years, 42 pages, over 2,000 posts. And zero electric universe theories.

Some people here sure have a lot of spare time to spend on nothing much.

Anybody have an actual theory?

 

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Yet more irrelevant insanity from Sol88

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Yet more irrelevant insanity from Sol88.
The thousands of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma continued in the electric universe theories thread.

His insanity that applying the working laws of physics to the early Solar System is "poppycock" is irrelevant. The models are mainstream science.
His insanity of emphasizing that the EU presented by his demented Thunderbolts cult cannot be supported may be relevant. Expect at 10 years of insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. from Sol88 so that Sol88 will drive the stake into the dead heart of his delusions !

An utterly insane lie from Sol88 that the mainstream deny the electric force. All scientists learn about electromagnetism, what electromagnetism does, and whet electromagnetism cannot do.